Charles W Morgan by texxn5 - FINISHED - Model Shipways - 1:64

[trippwj]

Continues to look good, John.  Nicely done on the rudder.

[popeye the sailor]

little progress,  is good progress      your doing a fine job........can't wait to see the hurricane house 

[texxn5]

Thanks Popeye, the rest of the Hurricane House gets strted today.  I'm currently hinging the Rudder and soon to attach it to the Stern, attach the Tiller & Wheel, which I've already built, then it's off to the rest of the Hurricane House....

[texxn5]

Thanks Wayne, greatly appreciated.

[texxn5]

OK, the wheel, rudder, and hinges are done.

[texxn5]

couple of more

[texxn5]

Rudder is mounted to the ship, the tiller is mounted to the rudder, and some chocks and cleats were added to the inside wales.

[texxn5]

Now before any of you give me a hard time about how the rudder is mounted in reference to the keel, here are the plans, and I confirmed it with plans from Mystic and it IS NOT supposed to be in line with the keel....it is higher for some reason.....unknown to me as to why....I don't think I've seen this on other ships....

[texxn5]

Here is the wheel assembly, and then with the Galley Hurricane House....

[texxn5]

Now working on the Head, and Companionway for the Officers, or considered the rest of the Hurricane House....

[popeye the sailor]

very interesting set up on this ship........too bad there isn't a seat for the helmsman to sit in,  so he can swivel with the wheel 

[augie]

Wow.....you're in warp drive.  But really, I can't imagine anyone here giving you a hard time about the rudder   :D  

[popeye the sailor]

see.....I should have waited.......the hurricane house looks great John.....very nice    hate to say it.......but there is a problem......the gungeons and pintles are upside down

 

File:Pintle and gudgeon rudder system scheme.svg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

 

Jim Ladd sent this to me..........I did the same thing with the Gothenborg.

Edited November 8, 2013 by popeye the sailor

[texxn5]

Hi Popeye, yeah, it is a really interesting set up....no seat though, I think this guy was the cook at the same time, so while things were burning in the galley, he was trying to steer the ship at the same time.....he could lean up against the skylight which is next after I finish the Hurricane House.  It goes forward of the tiller on that long black hole in the deck, it also holds the compass....

[texxn5]

No Augie, I couldn't imagine any of this group giving anyone a hard time.....

[popeye the sailor]

I edited my earlier comment John........you really need to read it 

[texxn5]

Hi Popeye, I caught this afterwards, and it is too late to switch them....they are glued with CA, and it would screw up the ship and the rudder coppering.....oops.....and the bad thing about this is that I knew that ahead of time, and had full intentions of making sure it was right.....that is until I realized I did it backwards...thanks for the input though, but to anyone that's not on the forum, they'll never know.....only me and you.....lol......maybe the rudder won't fall off.....

[popeye the sailor]

Yea......I did it.  I changed it around......had to make a new rudder and hardware.   I didn't even see it the first time around......then I saw Augie's comment,  and it hit me.   if your good with it..........so let it be written.......let it be done.   I'm the same way though.......if a change can be made without too much trouble,  I will try....but if not...........oh,  I forgot     it's like the anchors for the Gothenborg....I got the stocks upside down.   I used CA on them,  and at first they wouldn't stay together {the anchor part is made up of two pieces}......but cement the stocks on them,  and it's like they were never apart......go figure.  I'll do something with them though 

 

the Hurricane house was worth waiting for.......you did a splendid job on it     I know there isn't..........but a seat on that wheel assembly would make for one heck of an amusement ride :D

[lambsbk]

Dang. I didn't even know what a gudgeon and pintle were. If it was discussed outside of this forum I would have thought it was danish food or something (sorry Sjors). Every now and then you more experienced guys remind me that I am still in the woods without a compass...learning...slowly learning. Thanks for helping to keep my bearings.

 

John, I have to say - when my gudgeon and pintle time comes I will appreciate this little deviance of yours here...

[texxn5]

Hi Popeye, what happened was when I started gluing it with the CA, I handled it upside down and continued to match it accordingly starting at the bottom, and working my way up, therefore, getting it completely backwards.....then I CA'd it to the ship with my mind on the tiller height, and lining up the copper sheeting...not even thinking about the fact that it was backwards....all done, attached the tiller ....  also with CA, and then touch up paint....blah...blah....started working on the rest of the Hurricane House, and then took pictures....put them on the computer and went....Oh S#@$.........they're upside down......anyways, I'm going to leave them like they are, and oh by the way, I forgot to redo them.....

[texxn5]

Hi Dave, Danish food sounds good, perhaps with honey and cinnamon....could be good deserts maybe.....anyways Dave, when you get to mounting Rudders some day, if it's backwards, the weight of the rudder has nothing to support it if it is upside down.....a peened hinge bolt would wear out rapidly like mine is set up and could and probably would fall off....not good physics.....this was just pure oblivion....I wasn't looking at it....getting old I guess....but for the general public, they'll never know the difference....only ship and model builders and of course this forum.......please...no Captain's Mast...I'm punished enough just knowing it.....

[popeye the sailor]

.......and at the pond in central park today,  police arrested a one armed man,  who was bothering the other boaters,  by continuously rowing in a circle! 

 

*a little George Carlin humor......don'tcha know  

[JPett]

Ahoy John

 

I completely agree and knowing your limitations shows wisdom.

 

There is no such thing as perfect ship. Knowing when to fight or "picking your battles" is key to victory or completing a kit. If it helps I have deducted about 100 scale points from my build. Although there is something to be said/learned fixing mistakes, damaging a build to make something scale is just wrong in my book.

 

If you do this same thing on your next build, well now that's a horse of a different color.

Edited November 8, 2013 by JPett

[Piet]

Hi John, ol eagle eye Popeye strikes again      I looked at the pic too and din't see it.  I guess I wasn't looking for it.  Hey, stuff happens    Strange helm arrangement on this ship but it works.

 

Cheers,

[augie]

Oh my.  I didn't see it.  It'll be our little secret.  My Syren has a few.....trust me on that.

[texxn5]

yes Popeye, the one armed man rowing in a circle could cause a stir.....

[texxn5]

Hi JP, what can I say?????  

[texxn5]

Hi Piet, yep.....Popeye (evil eye) got me.....I knew I couldn't escape it....so I just went with it.....

[texxn5]

Yep Augie....our little secret....I won't tell if you don't........

[texxn5]

Man.....do something right and you barely get noticed....do something wrong and it hits the perverbial fan....lol....seriously though... thanks Popeye...we all need a watchdog....you're a good friend, and I greatly appreciate it......