Thunder Posted November 2, 2018 #1 Posted November 2, 2018 This is going to be a very short topic as I am just going to post some photographs I found of my build so I apologise for that in advance. I thought they may be of use to someone. Having the Anatomy of the ship series book I compared this to the kit. As many on here have probably found, the kit varies considerably from the plans. Not sure why they did this when the plans are available but this is common with kits. I printed the drawings out and altered their size until they best matched the keel size provided by the kit. I did work out the scale it became but not sure now, seem to remember 1:50. I removed the bow and keel sections so I could install the correctly shaped walnut parts in their place. I then marked on all the bulkheads as shown in the lines plan. Photo below shows this and the bearding line which has been shaped ready to receive the planking. GrandpaPhil 1 Quote Current Build(s): H.M.S Diana 1794 - Caldercraft 1:64 Scale Completed Builds: H.M.S. Cruiser 1797 - Caldercraft 1:64 Scale H.M. Naval Cutter Speedy 1828 - Model Shipwright 1:48 Royal Caroline 1749 - Panart 1:47 H.M. Brig Supply 1759 - Caldercraft 1:64 H.M.S. Pickle 1778 - Caldercraft 1:64 H.M.Y. Chatham 1741 - Caldercraft 1:64 H.M.S. Resolution Cutter - Corel 1:50 H.M.S. Racehorse - Sergal 1:47 (Renamed H.M.S. Thunder 1740) first wooden kit build.
Thunder Posted November 2, 2018 Author #2 Posted November 2, 2018 Bulkheads were re-used were possible comparing shape at each location with those on the plans. Extra bulkheads made out of MDF sheet. Some of these were very different to the plans. GrandpaPhil 1 Quote Current Build(s): H.M.S Diana 1794 - Caldercraft 1:64 Scale Completed Builds: H.M.S. Cruiser 1797 - Caldercraft 1:64 Scale H.M. Naval Cutter Speedy 1828 - Model Shipwright 1:48 Royal Caroline 1749 - Panart 1:47 H.M. Brig Supply 1759 - Caldercraft 1:64 H.M.S. Pickle 1778 - Caldercraft 1:64 H.M.Y. Chatham 1741 - Caldercraft 1:64 H.M.S. Resolution Cutter - Corel 1:50 H.M.S. Racehorse - Sergal 1:47 (Renamed H.M.S. Thunder 1740) first wooden kit build.
Thunder Posted November 2, 2018 Author #3 Posted November 2, 2018 (edited) Bulkheads in place on keel. The extra pieces of wood stuck to some of the bulkheads are where the originals were too small. These were filed down to the correct shape once all glue was completely dry. However, at this stage these are only dry fitted without re-shaping the bulkheads. You can see the amount that has to be taken off some of the originals and how they will match the bearding line. Edited November 2, 2018 by Thunder GrandpaPhil 1 Quote Current Build(s): H.M.S Diana 1794 - Caldercraft 1:64 Scale Completed Builds: H.M.S. Cruiser 1797 - Caldercraft 1:64 Scale H.M. Naval Cutter Speedy 1828 - Model Shipwright 1:48 Royal Caroline 1749 - Panart 1:47 H.M. Brig Supply 1759 - Caldercraft 1:64 H.M.S. Pickle 1778 - Caldercraft 1:64 H.M.Y. Chatham 1741 - Caldercraft 1:64 H.M.S. Resolution Cutter - Corel 1:50 H.M.S. Racehorse - Sergal 1:47 (Renamed H.M.S. Thunder 1740) first wooden kit build.
Thunder Posted November 3, 2018 Author #4 Posted November 3, 2018 All Bulkheads shaped and re-dry fitted as a final check before fairing. There is an extra six bulkheads here over the kit design. This really made a difference when planking. GrandpaPhil 1 Quote Current Build(s): H.M.S Diana 1794 - Caldercraft 1:64 Scale Completed Builds: H.M.S. Cruiser 1797 - Caldercraft 1:64 Scale H.M. Naval Cutter Speedy 1828 - Model Shipwright 1:48 Royal Caroline 1749 - Panart 1:47 H.M. Brig Supply 1759 - Caldercraft 1:64 H.M.S. Pickle 1778 - Caldercraft 1:64 H.M.Y. Chatham 1741 - Caldercraft 1:64 H.M.S. Resolution Cutter - Corel 1:50 H.M.S. Racehorse - Sergal 1:47 (Renamed H.M.S. Thunder 1740) first wooden kit build.
Thunder Posted November 3, 2018 Author #5 Posted November 3, 2018 Big jump i'm afraid but I did say it was a short topic. First planking complete, false decks and deck beams in place. I have started marking the bulkhead positions on to the outside of the first planking along with the water line and wale positions. The wale positions will be the first second planks on as I hate to see planks crossing under the wales and emerging the other side as this could not happen in real practice. Makes second planking harder though. Ignore my kitchen I was in the process of re-wiring and fitting. Admiral not happy to come home and find me doing Caroline instead. GeorgeKapas and GrandpaPhil 2 Quote Current Build(s): H.M.S Diana 1794 - Caldercraft 1:64 Scale Completed Builds: H.M.S. Cruiser 1797 - Caldercraft 1:64 Scale H.M. Naval Cutter Speedy 1828 - Model Shipwright 1:48 Royal Caroline 1749 - Panart 1:47 H.M. Brig Supply 1759 - Caldercraft 1:64 H.M.S. Pickle 1778 - Caldercraft 1:64 H.M.Y. Chatham 1741 - Caldercraft 1:64 H.M.S. Resolution Cutter - Corel 1:50 H.M.S. Racehorse - Sergal 1:47 (Renamed H.M.S. Thunder 1740) first wooden kit build.
Thunder Posted November 3, 2018 Author #6 Posted November 3, 2018 Finally, completion. All photographs between seem to be lost. I used the mouldings that came with the kit where possible as I am not at the stage of being able to do my own. Comparing with 'built to kit' dimension models she is of a finer run in and appears longer because of this. Gun port positions and the windows are placed to the book dimensions. I chose stub masts as I thought they, will the associated rigging, would prevent easy view of the detail. They are not glued in so I can change this later. Quarter badge window frames were done with the timber supplied and I wasn't happy. so I cheated a little on the other windows and used (horror) Plastic. catopower, AJClark, marktiedens and 8 others 11 Quote Current Build(s): H.M.S Diana 1794 - Caldercraft 1:64 Scale Completed Builds: H.M.S. Cruiser 1797 - Caldercraft 1:64 Scale H.M. Naval Cutter Speedy 1828 - Model Shipwright 1:48 Royal Caroline 1749 - Panart 1:47 H.M. Brig Supply 1759 - Caldercraft 1:64 H.M.S. Pickle 1778 - Caldercraft 1:64 H.M.Y. Chatham 1741 - Caldercraft 1:64 H.M.S. Resolution Cutter - Corel 1:50 H.M.S. Racehorse - Sergal 1:47 (Renamed H.M.S. Thunder 1740) first wooden kit build.
Mirabell61 Posted November 3, 2018 #7 Posted November 3, 2018 Very nice build Thunder ! Nils Quote Current builds -Lightship Elbe 1 Completed - Steamship Ergenstrasse ex Laker Corsicana 1918- scale 1:87 scratchbuild - "Zeesboot" heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB clinker scratch build scale 1:24 - Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE ex Wanderbird, scale 1:50 scratchbuild - Mississippi Sterwheelsteamer built as christmapresent for grandson modified kit build - Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) "SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, blue ribbond awarded, 1:144 (scratchbuild) "HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan -"Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96 (scratchbuild) -"Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) "Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild) original was my grandfathers ship -"Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 "Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32 under restoration / restoration finished "Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50
pontiachedmark Posted November 3, 2018 #8 Posted November 3, 2018 Gidday from the Land Downunder, Absolutely beautiful work Thunder. Pity about the lost photos. All the best with your future builds, Mark Quote
GrandpaPhil Posted November 4, 2018 #9 Posted November 4, 2018 Very well done! Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
Spookyluke Posted yesterday at 06:14 AM #10 Posted yesterday at 06:14 AM Hi Thunder, Have just found your posts of the Royal Caroline Panart kit build. i recently purchased this kit part built from a charity shop, it does have the build instruction manual , but no plans. Would it be possible for you to help out with my problem? regards david GrandpaPhil 1 Quote
GrandpaPhil Posted 13 hours ago #11 Posted 13 hours ago David, Cornwall Model Boats has them for about $34. Shipping usually costs me $10-15 to the Midwest in the USA. https://www.cornwallmodelboats.co.uk/acatalog/Royal-Caroline-Construction-Plans-Set-979.html#SID=137 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
Thunder Posted 2 hours ago Author #12 Posted 2 hours ago Hi David, Unfortunately I didn't keep them, I had no reason to as the rigging was dubious at best so would produce my own plans if deciding to ring. To be honest i used the Anatomy of the Ship book more as the kit has the spacing of the cabin windows incorrect and i made new bulkheads. Sorry, Adrian Quote Current Build(s): H.M.S Diana 1794 - Caldercraft 1:64 Scale Completed Builds: H.M.S. Cruiser 1797 - Caldercraft 1:64 Scale H.M. Naval Cutter Speedy 1828 - Model Shipwright 1:48 Royal Caroline 1749 - Panart 1:47 H.M. Brig Supply 1759 - Caldercraft 1:64 H.M.S. Pickle 1778 - Caldercraft 1:64 H.M.Y. Chatham 1741 - Caldercraft 1:64 H.M.S. Resolution Cutter - Corel 1:50 H.M.S. Racehorse - Sergal 1:47 (Renamed H.M.S. Thunder 1740) first wooden kit build.
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