harlequin Posted March 14, 2019 Share #31 Posted March 14, 2019 your on the home straight now then.... peveka 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peveka Posted March 14, 2019 Author Share #32 Posted March 14, 2019 25 minutes ago, harlequin said: your on the home straight now then That literally made me laugh out loud ;o) Thank you for your encouragement! You have fun rigging ...🍻 Cheers Pieter harlequin 1 Quote Some much wood so little time ... Current builds: Nulli Cedo, an 18th century Dutch war clog, HMS Bellona Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peveka Posted March 16, 2019 Author Share #33 Posted March 16, 2019 Another one of those sacred moments ... first planks. Cheers Pieter harlequin 1 Quote Some much wood so little time ... Current builds: Nulli Cedo, an 18th century Dutch war clog, HMS Bellona Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peveka Posted March 17, 2019 Author Share #34 Posted March 17, 2019 (edited) Update. Positioning the first plank was relatively easy, just follow the line of the decks. The second plank is supposed to be 10 mm below the first. One is not supposed to continue to glue planks below plank #1 because one needs space to build in the little boxes for the dummy canon. Of course one can measure 10mm and glue the 2nd plank but I struggled. Solution: I dry-fitted two planks to the bulwarks and positioned the 2nd plank after bending it. Bending at the bow was easy. Bending at the stern was a bit of a pain in the gluteal region but with soaking, a bending tool and heat I got the job more or less done. If there is ever going to be an award for the most useful invention related to planking I nominate the person who invented these modified paperclip thingies! Pic below: first plank positioned, two dry fitted below #1 and #2 held in place. Pic below: Same thing as above, close up. Pic below: The plans want the first upper planks to be evenly spaced. Putting these dry-fitted planks in between #1 and #2 makes that a little easier. Pic below: looking forward to the next, what, 7-8 of these. Not. Cheers Pieter Edited March 17, 2019 by peveka cog 1 Quote Some much wood so little time ... Current builds: Nulli Cedo, an 18th century Dutch war clog, HMS Bellona Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harlequin Posted March 17, 2019 Share #35 Posted March 17, 2019 seems only yesterday I was at the same stage peveka 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peveka Posted March 21, 2019 Author Share #36 Posted March 21, 2019 (edited) Small update. I've been working on the "cannon boxes". Between us, they are a bit a pain in the butt. Update (13/05/2019) after having glued in the boxes: if you are thinking about adding faux carriages for the dummy guns I refer to post #44 where I give a description of the procedure. Do not make the mistake I made Some are easy to place. These are the ones that are to be glued directly onto one of the bulwarks, they can easily be held in place with small clips. Unfortunately there are only 3 of these on each side. Apart from those there are 6 on each side that are to be glued exactly in the middle between two bulwarks. These can be held in place with clamps but if you're 1mm "queer" they jump off. Tricky but doable. Next are the ones where you have to cut off one side of the box (see pic) and glue them to a bulwark and to the two planks in front of them. These are really tricky because as soon as you put on a clip they jump away. Solution: I fitted a small piece of balsa between two of these half boxes to have something to put a clamp on. Picture below: On bulwark #9 you see one of the easy ones. The one in the middle between #10 and #11 will be a little trickier but as long as everything stays nice and straight it'll work. Below: Here's what I mean with "boxes". In the upper part of the pic you see the U-shaped piece of wood where you cut the boxes from. There are two sizes. On the left you see an uncut version, on the right is one with it's side cut off. Below. Two of these prepared boxes are fitted between bulwark #5 and #6. I found it impossible to hold them in place until the glue dried. They just tilt. So I glued a tight fitting piece of balsa between the two parts, let it dry and positioned the two held in place with a decent clasp. Voilà! Cheers Pieter Edited May 13, 2019 by peveka Added a referal to post #44 cog, Old Collingwood, Katsumoto and 1 other 4 Quote Some much wood so little time ... Current builds: Nulli Cedo, an 18th century Dutch war clog, HMS Bellona Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peveka Posted March 22, 2019 Author Share #37 Posted March 22, 2019 This one here is particularly nasty. You have to cut off one side AND respect the curvature of the bow which means you have to do some sanding. No way a clasp holds on to that. Glue a piece of scrap balsa to the other side and Robert is your mother's brother. Pic below: the box has to be glued to the left side of bulwark #4 Pic below: the prepared piece. Below: piece in situ. Cheers Pieter cog and Katsumoto 2 Quote Some much wood so little time ... Current builds: Nulli Cedo, an 18th century Dutch war clog, HMS Bellona Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peveka Posted April 7, 2019 Author Share #38 Posted April 7, 2019 Small update. Finished the first row of gunports on both sides, nothing really exiting. Cheers Pieter goetzi73 and cog 2 Quote Some much wood so little time ... Current builds: Nulli Cedo, an 18th century Dutch war clog, HMS Bellona Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peveka Posted April 7, 2019 Author Share #39 Posted April 7, 2019 After having finished the fist row I'm starting with the second. The sequence of positioning the planks is given: A, B, etc. The reason for this is that one has to be able to glue in the boxes for the dummy guns. So after A came B, then the boxes, then the "fillers" between A and B. After that came C (see pic) and now it's time for D. Of course one could measure the distance between C and D - i.e. 10mm, the width of two planks - but I find it easier to dry-fit two planks above C and then dry-fit D into it's correct position. Then remove the two in between and glue D. Pic below. A and C are glued, then come the two spacers and D on top of those. Next: take out the spacers and glue D. Then position the dummy gun boxes. Cheers Pieter Katsumoto and goetzi73 2 Quote Some much wood so little time ... Current builds: Nulli Cedo, an 18th century Dutch war clog, HMS Bellona Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peveka Posted April 14, 2019 Author Share #40 Posted April 14, 2019 (edited) Working on dummy carriages for the dummy cannon. As I am not an astrophysicist I don't like the look of the black holes with just the cannon pointing out so I stole someone's idea (can't remember where I saw it but it was was on the forum, thank you if you read this!) and made dummy carriages. The process is quite straight forward. Prepare a strip of scrap wood (thank you Dremel), glue a second strip on the lower half as a filler to create some distance between the front of the "carriage" and the hull, cut them off, add two tiny pieces posing as the sides of the faux carriage et voilà. Cheers Pieter Edited April 14, 2019 by peveka cog, paulsutcliffe, KARAVOKIRIS and 1 other 4 Quote Some much wood so little time ... Current builds: Nulli Cedo, an 18th century Dutch war clog, HMS Bellona Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harlequin Posted April 15, 2019 Share #41 Posted April 15, 2019 cool peveka 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted April 15, 2019 Share #42 Posted April 15, 2019 Lovely build Pieter. Nice work on those "faux" carriages. I thought you would have painted the sides of them in a red to black gradient ... peveka 1 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peveka Posted April 15, 2019 Author Share #43 Posted April 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, cog said: I thought you would have painted the sides of them in a red to black gradient Hm, nice idea ... but with the barrel attached you wouldn't see it anymore ... I leave that to the 1:48 specialists ;o) cog 1 Quote Some much wood so little time ... Current builds: Nulli Cedo, an 18th century Dutch war clog, HMS Bellona Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peveka Posted May 12, 2019 Author Share #44 Posted May 12, 2019 Hi all Finally got some work done on Bellona. I placed all the boxes of the dummy guns on both sides and fitted them on one side with the faux carriages which was absolute agony in the derrière ... happy with the result though. Overall impression View from the side The upper two were the worst. I think a novice surgeon after having successfully accomplished his first arthroscopic whatever in the knee feels about the same as I did ... So. If anyone wants to copy this procedure, here's a few tips. First: as per the plans, cut to size the U-shaped boxes and paint them black. Not the front because these are going to be glued to the planks. Then: prepare your faux carriages, paint them but don't paint the back of the sides as they are going to be glued to the "wall" of the box. Then: make a few scratches in the wall where the carriages are going to be glued to give the glue some hold. Then: glue the carriage in the box. And finally glue the box with the carriage in place. If you have enough time and patience and a soundproof workshop or a tolerant, loving, forgiving Admiral: do as I did and first glue the boxes in place. Best of luck. Moving on to the other side ... Cheers Pieter KARAVOKIRIS 1 Quote Some much wood so little time ... Current builds: Nulli Cedo, an 18th century Dutch war clog, HMS Bellona Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted May 12, 2019 Share #45 Posted May 12, 2019 When you are finished, you are a master of faux carriages ... nicely done Pieter peveka 1 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peveka Posted May 13, 2019 Author Share #46 Posted May 13, 2019 10 hours ago, cog said: master of faux carriages Hi Carl That would look quite chic on my business card next to my MSc ... a MFC. Cheers Pieter cog 1 Quote Some much wood so little time ... Current builds: Nulli Cedo, an 18th century Dutch war clog, HMS Bellona Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted May 13, 2019 Share #47 Posted May 13, 2019 I understand that you needed a break from your major build, but we want some update there Those little black thingies can become a real problem: Doing the second planking on my Prins Willem (same gun-port system), I didn't manage to get the run of the planks exactly in line with the line of the gunports. There was (especially at the ones glued to the bulkheads) almost no margin for error. In the end I decided to leave out the guns on the upper deck., and live with the fact that I can see the lower edge of the U's in some cases. I did not drill the holes for the guns. I still fear the moment of drilling, and coming to the conclusion that fifteen years age I should have used more glue to attach them to the inner planking. Ah, well, I can always decide to show her with the guns behind closed ports Jan peveka and cog 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peveka Posted May 13, 2019 Author Share #48 Posted May 13, 2019 Hi Jan As you have probably read between the lines I don't really like these boxes but I'm going to do my very best to get a decent result. I may have to increase the dosage of my betablockers temporary. As to drilling the holes: I used quite a lot of glue and the boxes are also held in place by the planks on the sides so I'm not really afraid of drilling. But, now you mention it: I am going to drill NOW before the hull is completely closed. Thanks for the tip! I plan to leave the gunport doors on one side of Bellone closed. So what I'm going to do (that's the plan at this stage, we'll see what happens) is that I continue placing the faux carriages on the other side and depending on the result I'll either close one side completely or leave a couple ports open. It's early days, 2nd planking is far away with beautiful weather arriving at top speed in la Bretagne! Beach bbq time! I'll try not to keep you waiting too long for an update next time! Cheers Pieter cog and amateur 2 Quote Some much wood so little time ... Current builds: Nulli Cedo, an 18th century Dutch war clog, HMS Bellona Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedro166 Posted January 17, 2020 Share #49 Posted January 17, 2020 Tolle Arbeit.Wie geht es weiter?Gibt es eine Fortsetzung. LG Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted January 17, 2020 Share #50 Posted January 17, 2020 Hello peveka, can't imagine your build has been frozen sollid down there in Bretagne ... any progress? Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peveka Posted January 20, 2020 Author Share #51 Posted January 20, 2020 Hi Carl I know I know, too busy with other stuff ... I promise to pick up building soon! Hope your ok, cheers! Pieter Quote Some much wood so little time ... Current builds: Nulli Cedo, an 18th century Dutch war clog, HMS Bellona Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted January 20, 2020 Share #52 Posted January 20, 2020 I'm OK thank you. Busy? You mean managing ... Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gan Do Posted January 22, 2020 Share #53 Posted January 22, 2020 On 3/5/2019 at 10:28 AM, Snow said: Gday nice ship I'll pull up a chair Have fun building this one looks great Cheers snowy Peter, I'm at about the same stage as you on Bellona. Just putting in part 24 (bosuns locker?) but instructions call for 74 & 75 to be added. I'm blowed if I can figure out what they are. Any ideas. G. GrandpaPhil 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peveka Posted January 23, 2020 Author Share #54 Posted January 23, 2020 On 1/22/2020 at 2:15 AM, Gan Do said: Any ideas. G. Hi Gan 24 is a small piece of plywood 5mm thick that comes on 6 behind the metal part 74 to reinforce this part in the middle. You have to shape the sides of 24 at a 45° angle first. You "fold" 74 over this plywood piece so that the middle part of the metal with the 2 "doors" protrudes said 5mm and the side parts next to the doors (= 75) stand at an angle of about 45° when viewed from above. Put this piece into place before adding the deck (22)! You'll want to paint 74 first and add the doorknobs before you glue it in place. Does this make sense? Cheers Pieter Quote Some much wood so little time ... Current builds: Nulli Cedo, an 18th century Dutch war clog, HMS Bellona Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gan Do Posted January 23, 2020 Share #55 Posted January 23, 2020 9 hours ago, peveka said: Hi Gan 24 is a small piece of plywood 5mm thick that comes on 6 behind the metal part 74 to reinforce this part in the middle. You have to shape the sides of 24 at a 45° angle first. You "fold" 74 over this plywood piece so that the middle part of the metal with the 2 "doors" protrudes said 5mm and the side parts next to the doors (= 75) stand at an angle of about 45° when viewed from above. Put this piece into place before adding the deck (22)! You'll want to paint 74 first and add the doorknobs before you glue it in place. Does this make sense? Cheers Pieter Thanks Peter, I figured it all out about 5 minutes after I posted. I really hate all that brilliant brass. I'm thinking of ageing it all with vinegar then painting bits like the ones that represent wood like these one. Thanks again. G. peveka 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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