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This is what it will look like. It seems I don't have the pictures from when I started working on Reale de France stored on this computer, only the last few after I finished her.  I'll have to transfer  the pictures to the computer I am using now.post-247-0-70419400-1361038529_thumb.jpgpost-247-0-97321100-1361038531_thumb.jpg

 

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And here's to starting fresh and new

 

 

 

 

Posted (edited)

The first thing that confused me was the scale. As you can see the box says 1:24, but all the literature states 1:75.

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The box was heavy and well packed. Here is the contents.post-247-0-18488100-1361040876_thumb.jpgpost-247-0-72205100-1361040877_thumb.jpg

The keel was three layers thick.post-247-0-74355800-1361040879_thumb.jpgpost-247-0-48377600-1361040881_thumb.jpg

The frame went together well. I think I had trouble with only a few of the bulkheads fitting square. I had to unglue one or two of the bulkheads and do a little filing.post-247-0-47312600-1361040883_thumb.jpgpost-247-0-68029900-1361040885_thumb.jpg 

The bulkheads were used to keep the three layers of the keel aligned during gluing.post-247-0-33897200-1361042232_thumb.jpg

After the frame was assembled the bulk heads and keel was fared. post-247-0-07915300-1361042236_thumb.jpgpost-247-0-52566900-1361042237_thumb.jpgpost-247-0-97787300-1361042238_thumb.jpg

 

More tomorrow.

Edit: As you can tell I am having trouble posting pictures. I guess I need to read up on how to do this correctly. 

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Edited by Bender
Posted (edited)

Even with the keel made from three layers of plywood, the frame still had a nice curve.post-247-0-42246500-1361105165_thumb.jpg
The false deck for the main deck was one piece and took care of the curve.
I had to break this bulkhead off to remove some wood off the top face so the deck would run smooth.
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I cut some pine blocks and slipped them between these vertical pieces to keep them square and parallel.
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After the false deck was covered with the decking, notches needed to be cut for the outriggers.
The false deck had the slots pre-cut.
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I only needed to cut the thin decking with a knife
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and then finish up the notches with a file.
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This is what the deck looked like after some of the notches were cut.
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Edited by mtaylor
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This is another problem I had with the bulkheads. You can see in this picture the the deck is not running smoothly.

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I had to separate the deck from the bulkhead

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and file the top of the bulkhead down.

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After re-attaching the deck to the bulkhead I had to add some material to the bottom edge of the bulk head. This is a strip of basswood I curled with a curling iron.

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I think this is what it looked like after the glue dried, but before I sanded it down to sit fare with the other bulkheads. I haven't been able to find the directions that came with the kit, and I don't remember the names to all the parts of this ship. post-247-0-07783300-1361145672_thumb.jpg

Posted

I remember when you were doing this build. I have a lot of your old pictures back home, but I think they might be mix with other in different folders. I will look when I get back to the states and see what I have and maybe I can send them to you if you still want them. I had enjoy watching this build.. You did an excellent job with this ship, a real excellent job.. This is not an easy build by any means.

Wacko

Joe :D

 

Go MSW :) :)

Posted

Thanks, Wacko Joe, very much for the offer. I have found all the pictures. At the time I was in the habit of saving pictures on my computer at work. The problem I am finding is not remembering why I took some of the pictures and not knowing what to say about the pictures. All is good. I find that I am having a good time looking back at the pictures and making a new build log. 

Dan, that is what I thought but jumped in anyway.

Posted

After adjusting the bulkheads so that the deck ran smoothly, I started with the first planking layer on the hull. The strips were long enough to ran the entire length, but I had trouble with the glue drying too much before I could attach the entire strip. To keep from cutting the strips shorter, I applied glue to a little over half the strip and tacked the strip with push pins. As I worked my way from front to back I kept applying more glue to the strip. The first strip started flush with the top of the deck. Besides the push pins I used blue tape to hold the planking strip tight against the deck.

In the next two pictures you can see how the blue tape is holding the top plank against the deck.

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For the next few runs of planking I used the spring clips to hold each strip tight against the strip above.

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Not only did this hold the strip tightly together, it kept the edges flush with each other.

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After five runs of planking, the width was too much for the clips, so I went back to using tape.

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The silver clips are helping to hold the the edges of the strip flush with each other

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This is what it looked like after some sanding.

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Except for the cheeks at the rear end--which required a severe bend--the first layer of bass wood gave very little trouble.

Posted

After sanding the first layer really well, I started attaching the second layer. Again, the only real problem was the cheeks at the rear. But as the second planking reached the bottom--near where the keel would attach--I noticed the shape of the hull was not correct. If I continued with the second layer the hull would not curve into the keel correctly. I had to remove about five inches of the bottom two strips at the aft so I could sand a little more from the bulkheads and the false keel. The next three picture show what it looked like after reshaping and re-attaching some more bass wood. They also show a steeler plank that needed to be addedpost-247-0-69439700-1361240101_thumb.jpg

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It  was ugly at this point. You can see in the picture above and below where I removed two planks and added a strip of bass wood.

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The last two pictures show push pins holding the second layer in place.

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Posted

The second layer of planking is finished, and it took a lot of sanding to get the hull smooth. 

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You can see there is a gap for the keel to fit into--actually--let me pull up a picture from the first post. This picture below shows the three layers of the false keel and how the middle layer of the false keel is inset so the "real" keel can slide between the outer two layers of the false keel. This added a lot of strength to keel.

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The kit directions gave two options for the keel. You could either assemble the false keel together with the "real" keel, or plank the hull first and then fit the keel. Which is what I did. In order to have no gap between the keel and the planking, I made sure the planking ran well into the gap where the keel would fit. I used a long file to shape the edge of the planking. The gap in the three layers of the false keel kept the file moving straight and kept it centered. I took my time with this. I didn't want to file the slot too wide.

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This is a picture of the finished hull sitting on one sheet of the drawings. I put a yard stick (almost a meter long) in this picture to show the length of the hull.

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This picture and the last picture show the cheeks at the rear. These gave me a heck of a time. And this is not their final state.

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Posted

The next step was building all the hatch coamings. A wave of any significance would wash over the low deck of this type of ship, so the hatch coamings had to be tall enough to keep the water from pouring into the lower deck.

 

Hatch coamings attached to the deck. 

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Next was the overdeck. To support the overdeck, 80 frame pieces attached to the main deck on each side and stuck out past the main deck. For lack of a better name, I'll call these pieces outriggers.

 

Here is a picture of the outriggers after they were shaped.

 

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The outriggers are sitting on the plan sheet. Each piece was cut from supplied plywood and had the top and bottom profile already cut. I only needed to cut the long strips of plywood into shorter pieces and then shape the ends that attached to the deck and the end that attached to the outer support beam. I made copies of the drawings, cut out the pattern, glued the pattern to plywood, and then shaped each outrigger. Each piece had a different shape. This task was not too hard. I used a desk sander to do most of the shaping and a file to achieve the final shape. And when attaching the outriggers to the deck I needed to do some more shaping.

 

Corel's directions stressed the importance of making sure the outer support beam followed the curve of the main deck. I attached the fore and aft outriggers and three outriggers in the middle

 

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I used office clips to hold the outer support beam to the outrigger. 

 

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One side is finished. The outriggers needed more shaping so the piece would fit snugly against the deck and the outer end of the outrigger followed the curve of the outer beam.

 

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Looking up.

 

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I mentioned above 80 outriggers on each side. I have not been able to find the drawings that came with the kit. My number of 80 came from counting the outriggers in the picture below. I counted three times and came up with three different counts. You are more than welcome to correct my count.

 

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Posted

Hi Al...... I'm glad you  are posting this log again, this was a super nice build.I know it's a little bit of a pain to do it, but this build should be

enjoyed by all. Nice to see you back at MSW!!

Frank

completed build: Delta River Co. Riverboat     HMAT SUPPLY

                        

                         USRC "ALERT"

 

in progress: Red Dragon  (Chinese junk)

                      

Posted

Thanks, Frank, for the welcome back. It is nice to be back at it.

 

Just four picture for this post. This first picture shows half the port side finished.

 

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This picture shows the last few outriggers on the port side going in. And you can see what the outriggers look like.

 

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The frame work for the overdeck is nearly complete.

 

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Posted (edited)

A beam was added to the underside of the overdeck. 

 

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This beam is the starting point for planking. The planks ran from this beam to the hull.

 

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These last three pictures show the planks on the underside of the overdeck.

 

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Notice that the keel and stems are no longer attached. After fitting these pieces they were removed until later to keep from damaging them.

Edited by Bender
Posted

At this point some cosmetic planks needed to be added. You can see the white strip of wood.

 

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This is due to the order of the build. The deck needed to be planked first so that the notches could be cut for the outrigers. Next was the first layer of hull planking. This is the light colored strip of wood you see in the picture above and below. Then the second layer of hull planking. The outrigers came next. Last the planks were attached under the overdeck. And this left the white strip. Pieces of decking are cut and glued between each outrigger. 

 

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I had a few regrets with this build. One regret was not replacing the outrigger plywood with real wood. I had plenty of cherry to do this. Later in the build I found some paint that matched the color of the plywood so that the plywood is not obvious.  Also from this point in the build I replaced any plywood supplied parts with cherry.

 

At this stage the decking below the center cannon was added.

 

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Next come the foot boards, which looks like benches. The foot board attached to a beam that runs the length of the deck.

 

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  • 2 weeks later...
Posted

Next are the benches. . . .Benches? The  rowers actually stood on these. There was a foot board on one edge and a counter foot board on the other edge. There is a clip of La Fler delis on YouTube that shows how the rollers stepped back and forth from bench to foot board. 

 

These are the benches.

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Gluing the foot board to the bench.

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I made a gig that held each bench at the correct angle

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The forward cannons will soon be attached to these platforms.

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Posted

Near the front and rear of the ship--where the hull narrows--the overdeck sticks out well past the hull.  Reinforcements were added under the overdeck. The supplied parts for this were precut but of poor quality.

 

This is the supplied part.

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I had some cherry left.

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Here is the supplied part and the part cut from cherry

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I used a spacer to keep each parallel.

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Posted

This ship had five cannons mounted at the bow. A large cannon in the center. Two medium cannons on each side of the large center cannon. Two smaller cannons on the outside. Each cannon was mounted on a slide. post-247-0-22377700-1362785129.jpg

 

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Posted

At the bow a deck is built over the five cannons.

 

The kit supplied plywood.

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I did not use the plywood except for a pattern to make sure I built the deck to the correct dimensions. I also used pictures of Gerard Delacroix's La Fleur de Lis to see how the frame was constructed.

 

All of the beams and posts are cut from cherry. This is cherry left over from building the Oliver Cromwell.

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Everything is dry fitted at this point.

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Posted

I took a little time and covered up some of the plywood.

 

Here you can clearly see the edge of the plywood.

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I added a strip of wood on each side. Before the strip was attached it had to be notched on the bottom edge for each footboard.

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After the strip was attached, a notched had to be cut on the top edge for each counter footboard.

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Posted (edited)

I decided it would be better to attach the keel and stems before finishing the raised deck, so the deck came off.

 

I didn't have any clamps with jaws long enough so I used two pieces of wood with clamps on the outer edges.

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Edited by Bender
Posted

This ship has three walkways. One down the center and one on each side running the length of the overdeck. These pictures show the port and starboard walkways.

 

Starboard side walkway being clamped to the overdeck. The curved piece you see under the clamps is there to keep the clamps from damaging the wood.

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Clamps removed

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Close up of the walkway and raised deck.  The two round holes are the deck officers' toilets.

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The port side walkway under the clamps. The perspective of the starboard side (tops of picture) makes it seem that the walkway and the raised deck are on the same level. They are not.

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Perspective is off on this picture too.

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Posted

The kit came with some fancy trim.

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Two-hole toilet.

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This structure provided some privacy for the toilets. The shrouds will attach to this piece.

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The counter foot boards are added.

 

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I glued and clipped some wood to cover up more plywood, and you can see the counter foot boards.

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This shows the counter foot boards in place and shows the wood I used to cover the plywood.

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Posted

Kit supplied plywood part and part I made from cherry.

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The raised deck trimmed 

 

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The kit supplied fancy strips for the decking in this area.

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Covering up the plywood on the other side.

 

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The edges and face of the plywood on center walkway are covered

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This shows the decking for the center walkway laying in place.

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The string is part of the rigging and needed to be in place before the decking is glued down.

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  • 4 weeks later...
Posted

This is an amazing build of a wunderful ship! I looked through the build log with great interest, becourse I own the same kit and will build it some day...

I will follow your impressive build log with high interest.

 

Regards, Joachim

My new Book in ENGLISH and GERMAN available:

"The colour blue in historic shipbuilding"

http://www.modellbau-muellerschoen.de/buch-en.htm

 

Current build   Amerigo Vespucci    http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/836-amerigo-vespucci-by-schiffebastler-mantua-model-scale-184-italien-sail-training-ship-build-1931/

See also our german forum for Sailing Ship Modeling and History:

http://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com/

Posted

Bender,

 

Yes, your build is truly amazing; astonishing attention to small well replicated small details. Your artistry with complicated, and very numerous pieces of wood is superlative. A real pleasure to look at. I will enjoy following your build of this beautiful project.

Good choice. I think that many modelers have a passion for this boat. I'm happy to see it here at MSW

 

Regards,

 

Michael D

Michael

Current buildSovereign of the Seas 1/78 Sergal

Under the table:

Golden Hind - C Mamoli    Oseberg - Billings 720 - Drakkar - Amati

Completed:   

Santa Maria-Mantua --

Vasa-Corel -

Santisima Trinidad cross section OcCre 1/90th

Gallery :    Santa Maria - Vasa

 

 

 

 

Posted

Bender,

 

   As what was already said "Excellent Work" Keep the pictures there are a lot of us watching, this is the second one I have see being done. The first one is finished. 

Wacko

Joe :D

 

Go MSW :) :)

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