Enterprise 1799 by Rowboat - FINISHED - Constructo - Scale 1:51

[Rowboat]

I have moved my build log to Ships Of Scale.

There is a sea goer their that is doing the Enterprise 1799 build and it's easier to communicate with them if I have a build log on that site.

If I have time, and this log is still here,  I will get back and update my build.

Edited March 30, 2020 by Rowboat
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[Rowboat]

I was able to pick up the build manual for this model ship 👍, thanks to a fellow modeller.

This has been a tremendous help.

Now for some pics of my current progress.

Work on the hull planking...

 

Edited January 31, 2020 by Rowboat

[Rowboat]

I should have been trimming the plank ends (bow & stern) but did not find out till after the first 4 or 5 planks.

This caused issues trying to get all the planks to eventually fit.

i also should have spent more time fairing the bulkheads at the bow and stem.

There are some sharp angles that caused some snapping and breaking.

 

 

The plank on the left shows the sharp angle that I had to bend to plank over.

I should have stopped here and just "faired" the bulkheads .... but I didn't.. 😞

 

A close look at the right side plank (middle) shows the plank cracking at the last bulkhead..

[Rowboat]

the finished first plank .... lots of issues.

Planks not lining up, some rough looking "wedges", un-level hull (pockets and hills).

 

A closer look at my repair...

More issues ...

 

The finished first planking, some wood filler and sanding will be needed.

Hopefully sanding and woodfiller will correct my mistakes, we'll see.

 

Stay posted.

 

 

Edited January 31, 2020 by Rowboat

[ccoyle]

Filler is your friend. Are you planning on leaving the nails in? They will make your sanding job much more difficult.

[Rowboat]

Nails stay in.

I have an electric hand sander.

[Rowboat]

Applied some wood filler by Minwax..

Seems to work well, goes on smooth enough and does what it purports, fills .😀

 

I applied it generously to the model....

 

 

Using my electric hand sander I knocked off some filler.

 

A closer look at the original worse planking areas,

 

 

I was surprised how nice it turned out!

 

Needs a little more sanding but I want to finish planking the rest of the hull first.

 

 

Edited February 3, 2020 by Rowboat

[Rowboat]

Put on the waterway trim next and built the small housing on the poop deck.

 

For the wood (planking and trim) I mostly soak it in water over night and then put it in a jig to get the bend I need.

Once dry, I nail, glue and clamp down.

 

 

 

 

[Rowboat]

The latest update....

Attaching the first above deck plank, well it's half above half below.

The screw in pins hold the plank fairly well but leave a good size hole ..... the second planking should cover them.

 

 

Next step is cutting the scuppers , first some measuring.

 

Transferring the measurements

 

and marking the measurements on the model

[Rowboat]

Cut that last post short, the wife was leaving for work and I had to escort her to the car.

Did it once , so now it's my job 😀.

 

Let's see, cutting the scuppers now.

 

Then it's on to adding the next planking, also needed to cut the top of the scuppers.

 

 

A look from the bow ..... as planking continues,

Notice the first planking I cut out an area for the Stem to mount.

There was some controversy on whether this was the right way ..... right or wrong it's done now.

 

.... the stern .

 

Fast forward to the finished hull planking.

 

 

I'll need to apply wood filler and sand like crazy.

 

I wonder if I should put the filler on the interior of the hull.

In the pic above you can see a gap between the planks.

Since this is a 2 plank hull, does that mean the interior also gets doubled plank?

Any thoughts on this?

 

That's all for now.

Edited February 22, 2020 by Rowboat
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[Rowboat]

Looking at the pictures in the manual it appears that the 2nd planking is done before attaching the Stem, bottom Keel, and stern piece the rudder attaches to..

Does this sound correct? 

 

Also does the interior hull (above deck) get the second planking?

 

Thanks for any responses.

[SIDEWAYS SAM]

Hi Rowboat,

Normally I would fix the stem and stern before the second planking.

Cut a rebate in the stem piece to fit the ends of the planking (will look more like full size construction.

Plank the inside of the bulwarks if the capping rail is wide enough to cover double planking

and/or the inside face of the first planking needs tidying up.

However befor or after are both correct.

Good luck with the sanding and WEAR A MASK please. (Excuse shouting please but important).

 

Regards,

Sam.

[Rowboat]

@SIDEWAYS SAM,

 

Thanks for the replies.

Cutting a rabbet in the Stem and Stern was an idea I had not thought of.

The second plankings are only .5mm thick, so I would not need a deep rabbit.

 

I do wear a mask when doing major sanding (the hull) but not when sanding small pieces.

I'll need to check how wide the capping rail will be but I think it's going to be wide enough.

Great ideas.

 

Edited February 28, 2020 by Rowboat
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[ccoyle]

Great job on the scuppers!

[Rowboat]

Sanding of the above deck planks done.

 

 

Also, drilled the hole for the rudder handle.

 

[Rowboat]

Next up building the rudder....

The wood pieces in the box for the rudder and stern did not match the blueprints (schematics).

So I cut and sanded and eventually got a working piece.

I started nailing the brass rudder hinges to the rudder, very hard wood.

Then cut the excess off.

 

Should have glued them first and then followed up with nailing.

 

 

Test fitting ...

 

 

 

 

Almost made the newbie mistake of attaching the rudder to the hull before the 2nd planking. Yikes!

[Rowboat]

Working on the Stem and bottom keel.

I busted the original Stem 🥵.

After soaking I tried to bend it around the hull curvature, obviously didn't work.

So I made a new one.

First, took a more accurate measure of the curve.

 

Traced the top and bottom to the Stem first, added the curve to connect them and filled in any blanks.

 

 

Colored the new paper Stem and lightly glued it to the walnut wood I would use for the Stem.

I made sure to keep the correct curve while placing the paper Stem on the wood.

 

I cut out the Stem but snapped it while sanding with the machine sander .

Glued it back together and attached to the hull.

Also tested how the bottom keel would fit.

Glued the bottom keel on and sanded it to somewhat level.

While moving the model around I smacked the Stem again, and snapped a piece off. LOL

Glued it back on and clamped it down.

All this work in preparation of the 2nd planking.

Bad news on that front 🙄, I estimate I need 40 strips but only 37 came with the model.

I can mill a few pieces, maybe 4, that leaves little room for errors.

And I make errors.🥵

 

Need to spend some time thinking how best to resolve this next issue.

 

 

Edited March 9, 2020 by Rowboat
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[Rowboat]

After looking at the model's box I realized the solution to my 2nd planking issue. 😀

[src]

Rowboat,

I just recently found your build and the time to post, nice progress! May I offer a suggestion if its not too late? Redo your stem so the grain the length of the stem rather than parallel to the water line. I am concerned you will forever be breaking and repairing it as you build.

Looking forward to your progress.

Sam

[Rowboat]

@Captain Chaos

 

Excellent idea and I had thought about doing just that after looking at where the break points were.

I even drew the Stem on the wood but never got around to cutting it out.

 

So I'm tempting fate 😟 and trying to be more aware of that Stem.

If it breaks again I may have no choice but to follow your suggestion.

 

Thanks for the input.

 

 

[Rowboat]

Back for some updates.

 

The solution to my shortage of 2nd planking is to do a 2 tone hull.

The part above the lower wales will be popular wood and the lower section will remain sepelli wood.

 

First though, finishing the Stem , Keel, and rudder sections.

 

Then onto the top rail. Here the instruction called for 3 pieces of wood be laminated together and then glued on the top of the hull planks.

One for the port and one for the starboard sides.

Each piece is 2mm wide by 2mm high, I used my jig to set the bend in each one separately.

Then glued the 3 pieces together .

 

 

Here's more pics of the work.

Notice how I'm trying to protect the Stem. Don't want another break in that thing.😃

I'm posting this now before the computer or internet goes down.

 

 

Edited March 30, 2020 by Rowboat
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[Rowboat]

Today I start milling the popular wood that will be used for the 2nd planking.

Picked up a piece at Home Depot, a little over 6mm.

 

Ripped some boards length ways and milled them down to about .5mm. That's the thickness of the 2nd planking.

Measured , cut and glued the starboard side planks. Here I'm setting the first of the lower wales.

I used the blueprints to determine where the wales should lie. (Note to self: take a picture of the blue print and post).

 

 

 

I had not completed the lower wales, still needed 1 more piece.

 

Oops, forgot to protect the Stem 😧

The manual also had and upper wale.

What's the verdict sea goers, does the popular wood look okay?

 

Next post will be on planking the section below the wales.

 

 

 

Edited March 30, 2020 by Rowboat
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[Rowboat]

Somewhat intimidated with this section of the planking.

Here goes....

First I measured down 6mm to where the first batten plank would go.

I put on the planking and let it lie naturally. No upwards or sidewards bending.

This did cause some concern at the bow area.

I still have 5 more pieces of planking to add and there is no room at the bow !

Stearn area looks fine.

The rubber bands help a little in holding the plank but mostly put glue on the hull and the plank then let dry a little.

Starting at the bow I manually held the plank in place for a minute, then continued doing this every 4 or 5 inches .

This worked since there was no strain on the plank as I initially just let the plank lay normally, no bending.

 

If I had tried to manipulate the plank (bend), I doubt I would just be able to hold it in place for a minute to have it set.

 

Here's progress on the 2nd planking.

At the bow I just ran the planks into the lower wale.

I ended up having some whole planks (short pieces but still 4mm wide) at the bow merge with two half planks (each 2mm wide).

 

 

 

 

One can also see that I did some half cuts on the planks near the bow lower wale.

Probably should have marked this up in a picture editor but I'm ready to keep moving forward on this.

The stern area came out nice. One piece did crack, as is seen in the pic below.

But nothing some glue can't fix.

 

Since I had that first batten plank lay naturally it made it easier for the next planks.

Normal trimming at the bow but other wise set and glue.

Finally the finishing pieces...

The bow continued needing trimming while the stern required "steelers" to be cut.

I think they are called steelers?

A triangle shaped piece that fits between two planks at the stern.

Here's a look at the entire model with the port side 2nd planking.

 

A little work still needed near the lower wale and of course lots of sanding.

I'm not sure if the way I laid the lower wales is correct or not.

Should they have been curved up at the bow area more?

 

 .... added the plan pictures of the wales and there is a slight upward taper. I think I ended in the right place just below the top of the stem.

Mark this as another learning point .

 

Feel free to input on any of my posts, good or bad.

That's it for now.

 

Edited May 7, 2020 by Rowboat
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[ccoyle]

57 minutes ago, Rowboat said:

Should they have been curved up at the bow area more?

Only the plans can tell you that for certain. To my eye, everything looks very nice so far.

[SIDEWAYS SAM]

Looking good.       Most hulls require stealers as well as tapered planks.

Steep learning curve with the stem.      Will work out ok.

 

Regards,

Sam

[src]

The two tone should look nice when your done. Is that a Burns table saw I see in the pictures back when you were milling? If so I am soooo jealous.

Sam

[Rowboat]

@captain chaos

yes, I purchased the mini table saw and mini planer.

definitely glad I did as this kit is missing lots of lumber.

 

later when I decide to do a scratch build I’ll be ready😀.

 

thanks everyone for their input.

 

[Rowboat]

I see a few of the pictures I posted actually double posted.

not sure what’s going on but sorry for extra images.

[Rowboat]

I have a question.

Does the 2nd planking get "wood filler" put on it? Is it normal to have to put filler on the 2nd planking or do I just need to do a better job?

The gaps on the 2nd planking are minimal but there are some.

 

Thanks for any input.

[SIDEWAYS SAM]

Second planking shouldn't really have gaps.

Planks usually thinner than first planking and should be shaped to fit snug.

Use stealers where necessary.

On curved parts of the hull bevel the plank edges - this will make the gap

between them smaller.