Sparkysparks Posted April 3, 2020 Share #1 Posted April 3, 2020 Hello all. hank you for having me here. I've joined here to ask questions and pick brains if needed. To me this a hobby of time and love. Lots of time and love of the art. . My back ground in modeling has been in styrene back in the 60s and 70s . My last ship build was the Revell Conny. These days I still play with plastics while evolving my n scale rail layout. I also have two wooden ship restoration projects that I'm researching before and during the projects. It seems that part never ends. lol. One basket case that I've only looked over is a Artesania Latina USS Constellation. I only got a good lookie see at it yesterday, along with some web search to ID it. This is one of this " I got in over my head builds that I'm investigating weather to save the build or scrap it for parts. The latter being equivalent to take your dog out behind the wood shed to put it down. The second is a Whaler that looks like its from a kit but I've found no hits on the web. It may be an interpretation of a merchant ship converted to the whaling industry. This one is old but seems post war. All the deadeyes and yardarms are wired with steel or tin and the tops and crosstrees are/were made of nitrocellulose, Now tiny crumbly pieces and the wire has become brittle and unworkable. She's now demasted and stripped of hull paint, main deck stripped of its coat of shellac, and all her lil bits bagged and tagged. So i'm in the hull repair and paint prep stage with her. Note 1. The whaler 's hull was stripped of paint due to massive orange peeling. The hull was never filled and sanded correctly,so whoever did the last work on it decided to use the paint as the filler. Anyways I digress. I'll create a project post with Before pics, status and the odd questions. Note 2. I do welcome opinions, directional advise, commits and jears from the two guys in the balcony seats. Expect me to call out some questions regarding, well maybe be everything. lol Thanks for having me here and here's some pics of the whaler. Man I'm glad q-tips are cheap. ccoyle, JeffT, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Lad Posted April 3, 2020 Share #2 Posted April 3, 2020 Hello Sparky and a warm welcome to the forum from 'Down Under'. That model looks like it's got a lot of character and would be well worth restoring. John mtaylor and JeffT 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffT Posted April 3, 2020 Share #3 Posted April 3, 2020 Welcome to MSW mtaylor 1 Quote Jeff In progress: Medway Longboat 1742 - Syren Ship Model Company -1/2" scale USS Constitution - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Granado - CAF Model - 1:48 HMS Sphinx - Vanguard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted April 3, 2020 Share #4 Posted April 3, 2020 Hi Sparky, welcome to MSW. Give some thought to opening a log in the Scratch area if you decide to restore it. People will follow along and offer advice, etc. Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkysparks Posted April 3, 2020 Author Share #5 Posted April 3, 2020 Thanks mtaylor. I plan on doing so. The ship has no name. The closest example I can find is the Wander. Both are barks, but then most whalers were. The only item that's accosted with The wanderer is the mizzen mast protruding through the aft deck house. her bow is to streamlined to be a vessel built from the keel up to be a whaler. Hence my belief it is a merchant ship converted to whaling. Any ideas so I can show up in the index and not be given s**t about a false name? EricWilliamMarshall and mtaylor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccoyle Posted April 3, 2020 Share #6 Posted April 3, 2020 Hello and welcome, Sparky. If you haven't already, here's the entry on naming build logs. If you're pretty sure that your model is a generic vessel, you can just say "whaling ship". I look forward to seeing your work -- restorations are often very interesting projects. Cheers! mtaylor 1 Quote Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, Hawker Hurricane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandpaPhil Posted April 3, 2020 Share #7 Posted April 3, 2020 Welcome! mtaylor 1 Quote Building: 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships) On the building slip: 1:72 French Ironclad Magenta (original shipyard plans) On hold: 1:98 Mantua HMS Victory (kit bash), 1:96 Shipyard HMS Mercury Favorite finished builds: 1:60 Sampang Good Fortune (Amati plans), 1:200 Orel Ironclad Solferino, 1:72 Schooner Hannah (Hahn plans), 1:72 Privateer Prince de Neufchatel (Chapelle plans), Model Shipways Sultana, Heller La Reale, Encore USS Olympia Goal: Become better than I was yesterday "The hardest part is deciding to try." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkysparks Posted April 3, 2020 Author Share #8 Posted April 3, 2020 I posted up in Scratch build as "Unknown Whaler." Admin is welcome to change it. Just email me so I can find the bugger. mtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccoyle Posted April 3, 2020 Share #9 Posted April 3, 2020 Just needed your username added is all -- already fixed. Quote Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, Hawker Hurricane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkysparks Posted April 3, 2020 Author Share #10 Posted April 3, 2020 Well thank you sir. mtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beeman911 Posted April 3, 2020 Share #11 Posted April 3, 2020 Hello Sparky, ( also name of our beloved dog ). I probably can’t help you, however, I inherited this unnamed solid hulled model about 30 years ago. I see similarities between your model and mine. Several of my Marthas Vineyard, New Bedford, and Maine coastal ancestors in the 1800’s were Mariners, and two were Masters, not sure if on Whalers but a couple on unknown Merchant ships. Subsequent ancestors were wheelrights and carpenters so I THINK this is a homemade model. I’ve restored and added some features. Many on this forum agree it is not a commercial model because the scale of many items is off, and since it is a family heirloom I can do as I please, as it will never be a piece of value. So I started to restore and augment a few years ago with features as well as I can, and built a lit display case. Except for the main masts, the smaller mast pieces and some deck items are made from Whales teeth. I don’t feel ready or capable to tackle the rigging. Good luck! Beeman mtaylor and GrandpaPhil 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkysparks Posted April 3, 2020 Author Share #12 Posted April 3, 2020 I was looking at it and thinking nice job. Then I saw the state if it when you started it. Wow. nice restoration. Most notable is you kept the character of the piece. Yours is definitely a scratch built piece of folk art with eye pleasing hull lines. The rigging is the most difficult part as it requires research and a ton of paintance. mtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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