Cutty Sark by NenadM

[NenadM]

Lou van Wijhe !!!!!!

 

       

 

Thank you very very very much

 

( I think that our friend Bob will immediately dive deep inside for some years оr decades  )

Edited December 5, 2013 by Nenad M

[keelhauled]

Nenad,

 

You can drive yourself crazy trying to determine exactly what the Cutty was at a specific time.  I've spent tons of hours - way more than building the ship looking at photos, plans, descriptions, etc.  Remember to have fun!

 

Your work is looking great!

[NenadM]

Thx Keelhauled

 

Some research is necessary, Tehnodidakta plans are poor, C-plans are OK, and less of experience force me to investigate, almost over photos, and to test some steps. Massive corrections I had to do are not very entertaining. Last 3 months I mostly correct mistakes instead of going forward. I must say that this is a fun also, a kind of pleasure when fix mess is certainly present, but more fun is in real progress looking how your model grows up

 

 

[rfolsom]

Dear Friends; 

 

Yes, we will drive ourselves crazy trying to find that "right look" at the "right period".  That's not my intent.

 

However, If you use the law of averages, and how the group sees the problem as opposed to the individual, you will arrive at the best possibility.  I use this in my other hobbies, such as ethnic cooking.  I will usually consult 10-15 recipes before usually committing to not one, but my interpretation of all I see.  Same for model ship building.  Many details I've planned to omit, but decided otherwise, (Thanks, Nenad) will be implemented, but many won't.

 

This is a hobby, and the fun is in the whole challenge;  as Nenad says, watching you model grow up, learning, fixing, and the intelligence you gain from the research...

 

Good luck with all the builds...

 

~Bob

[NenadM]

Glass of wine, E. Grieg music, and final polish of hull. Then, very thin layer of glue as primer coat.

Edited December 9, 2013 by Nenad M

[NenadM]

After finished collecting fallen leaves from whole homeyard (20x40m) take bear and E.Grieg with me, and started working on outside toprail. Pictures follow when finish it.


My english ...

bear = beer

Edited December 9, 2013 by Nenad M

[Piet]

Hey Nenad, I kinda figured you meant beer.  It could have been your Admiral, or cat or dog but thet wouldn't go with Grieg to the shipyard.        I like beer and Grieg as well  .  

I also enjoy your sense of humor and tenacity in your efforts to build a great model of a great ship.  Keep plugging at it my friend.

 

Cheers,

[NenadM]

Hey, Piet

 

It will be interesting if I really take a bear with me (if I have one ...). On the other side, that wrong word force me to think - have I bear hidden somewhere in my house? Sometimes my work on CS like as it was made my bear by night while I sleep ... It was definitely not done for beer, cause I drink very rarely and very little (consequences of earlier sporting life) but smoke a lot (1-2 packs of cigarettes per day)

[NenadM]

For Bob (and for others)

 

Running with toprail, on a bow I found position near the bowsprit which is little tricky...

 

 

Carefully look at the pictures, and you can see little deviaton of straight lines of planking is present ( red lines).

 

Deviation is present on almost all pictures of upper side of bow I can find

 

But, further and deeper investigation lead to conclusion that situation was different before and after fire

 

Here is picture before fire ( you can not see glass cloud under CS)

 

 

And here is situation after fire ( glass cloud is presented)

 

 

 

And there is some undeffinied space of second planking layer signed by "?"

 

As I see in your photos, Bob, also in mine case, there is problem as for you as for me, and we have to grapple with this.

 

On GFC  plans, there is no answer, and that deviation is not present (or I am blind)

 

 

Also in comparative view of other instructions and diagrams of different kit manufacturers, there is no answer

 

 

And another question

 

There is interesting edge of top-rail with interesting ending (yellow arrow on first picture)

 

 

 

What do you think about this ?

Edited March 21, 2014 by Nenad M

[Lou van Wijhe]

Nenad,

 

I'm not sure what you are looking for but I once made some pictures during repair work on the bow that might be helpfull. You can see them on (and download from) Skydrive, they are among the bottom ones.

 

Lou

[NenadM]

Another beer, Lou !!!!

 

Thank you !!!

 

I am not sure how shall I do this, but I now can clearly see construction of bow. There will be very small details on my scale, and question is - do them even will be visible or not. But, it is god to know

 

I shall follow your log on your web with great interest ( just made bookmark to Chrome). 

 

Wish you every luck, willpower perseverance and determination in your so dedicated building

 

Do you think about opening log on MSW ? I think that your approach to subject will be extremely interesting for members !!!

 

Nenad

Edited December 9, 2013 by Nenad M

[NenadM]

Kids are on their German language lessons, Admiral in gym on her exercises, so I am alone, and little peaceful progress

Plates are made of light sanded veneer covered with thin light sanded putty layer and thin also light sanded primer of diluted black acrylic paint.

 

This way is result of testing. Plates of veneer thus prepared are more plastic and easy to cut in measure.

 

Sure, everything has to be corrected later when whole plate line will be mounted, and, of course, painted well

Edited December 10, 2013 by Nenad M

[Lou van Wijhe]

Nenad,

 

I did originally start a build log. It was lost during the database crash we experienced some time ago and due to other time-consuming hobbies I didn't come to reconstructing it yet. Besides, I haven't got much new material to show and a build log should have some progress (like yours!) to keep it interesting. It shouldn't be a never-ending story like Peyton Place (my contemporaries will know what Peyton Place was...).

 

Lou

[popeye the sailor]

I know it well Lou........bet you watched Dark Shadows as well     you had such a good start on the jig for the hull.   sad to hear you haven't made any progress.........I remember it 

[rfolsom]

Nenad;  I am not sure what details you are referring to;  Please elaborate so I can fix my build .  It will be awhile before I build the head timbers and the scrollwork.  (I might try my hand at photo etch;  carving would be beyond my ability)...

 

~Bob

[NenadM]

Lou

 

I remember Peyton place. Was a kid, but later read a book. I remember my first soap ( " The Long Hot summer ..." ) and that I was fell in love with main actress ... ( kid ...)

 

 

Bob

 

On this detail of Lou`s picture is more clear what I investigate

 

 

Brian

 

Yes, I shall paint it with black acrylic colour, but first have to finish mount panels and rails, and to round rail edges. I considered earlier the possibility to leave all in natural wood, but ... that is for masters which mistakes are not visible and who are able to do plank-on-frame job. I am not such a type, and with colour little mistakes can be covered. That decision lead to future painting of deck and deck furniture also

 

Thx for your interest friends 

Edited December 10, 2013 by Nenad M

[rfolsom]

Ok , Nenad, I think I know what you're getting at...  Ironically, in a way, I just dealt with that problem with my other build, the Niagara.  That ship is much, much easier to build (so far).

 

Won't any detail be covered up by the stem detailing?

[NenadM]

I ll do my best, Brian, with materials I can purchase and find. Limitation is hard possibility to find order and bye specific wood types in Serbia. Maybe is solution in some patination, we ll see ...

 

Tanks for a tip

[NenadM]

 

Won't any detail be covered up by the stem detailing?

 

Yes, Bob, almost all.

 

I am just considering the manner and extent of setting second layer of planking just below stem, and just under the coopering

 

Will it be visible at all ?

[NenadM]

Finally a good day.

Once to get lucky and to do something right.

The second rail nearly mounted, and, what a surprise! The lines are parallel !!



What luck! What a joy!!


And that's not all


Finally I succeed to disort strips for rail moldings for stern and them are not cracked ! Never mind that them are 1.5 to 1.5 mm



And it was worth to see Admiral's face when she found me in her kingdom (kitchen) cooking strips


Tomorrow bussines trip again (250+250 km) and I hope that there will be some pictures if I shall have some time to visit Zlatibor Lake

Edited March 26, 2014 by Nenad M

[popeye the sailor]

looking great Nenad..........all you needed was the right day 

[capnharv2]

Rails look great Nenad! And I'm glad the bending for the stern rail is coming out well. When I get back to my Flying Cloud, I'll probably take the cap rail off and try again. You work is certainly an inspiration.

 

Thanks,

 

Harvey

[Sailor1234567890]

Nice work. She's such a beautiful ship, she's worth doing over to get just right.

[NenadM]

Harvey

 

Do you open log for Flying Cloud ? I could not find it

[NenadM]

Thx Daniel

 

Your avatar tells everything

 

Cheers and see you and your log around

[NenadM]

No photos from trip

 

Zlatibor tourist resort  village " Partizan water" is next to the main road which connects Belgrade to Montenegro , and has about 15-25000 and perhaps more beds in many private houses, apartments, hotels,

 

I got mad when I went through road which connects the center of the village with the main road and found that it is completely frozen , and snow is still here, not cleaned !!!! Only the last 200 m before reaching the main road show some trails of cleaning. 3 km of driving per ice board !!!!!!

 

To the lake did not dare to go. If the tourist center untreated, what to exspect at a local path? If I  went to the lake , probably will be slipped of somewhere along the road, where I had to wait for spring to come back to road.

 

Very angry , I went straight home , where I arrived late ( 21:00) , to late for CS  after 8 hours of driving

[popeye the sailor]

too bad!!   glad you made it home in one piece 

[capnharv2]

Hi Nenad,

 

No, I haven't started a log on the Flying Cloud yet. I got it about 4-5 years ago from an older gentlemen who didn't want to finish it. I finished the first and second layer of planking, got the deck and rails on, and kind of stalled there. I've been working on my Constitution lately, and my wife want me to start on the Agamemnon soon, but the FC is sitting on my desk, and I hope to get back to it soon.

 

Thanks,

 

Harvey

[Sailor1234567890]

Yes,I think that is one of the coolest pictures of her. She's like a model in a diorama, there's more than just the ship all sails set. Her jib boom is run in, the boats are away and the falls hooked together ready for the boat's return, a tarpaulin spread over the quarterdeck…… Lots to look at in that picture. 

[keelhauled]

Nenad,

 

I was looking at your post from the beginning of the month about the bow.  I see what you are talking about with the knights heads stepping back from where the planks end.  I've included three photos of my model one is with the bulkheads.  The arrow pointing to a notch on the stem shows where the knights heads will attach, the rabbit is in pencil below.

 

 

The other photo shows the second planking.  The third shows it with the scroll work

 

Hope this helps.

Marc

Edited December 15, 2013 by keelhauled