Golden Hind by Tomasz B - OcCre - 1/85

[kirill4]

more accurate , for this period , mast and top mast connection made by garlands, means connection made permanent ,at least is not supposed to be fast lowering as in later period ,when top rope was implemented / and mast cap looks specific shape ... it should looks like this 

[Tomasz B]

2 hours ago, kirill4 said:

Good day Tomasz,

Have question , for what there is one more running end of the tie halliard , as seems on the foto there are two? but tie halliard is a single rope ...

Knight with 4 sheeves may be  correct - on Your model mast cap is continental form/type (which is not correct for this ship, but choozen by kit maker as I understood)) but not in english style as it should be/it should be like a half brick ... and such shape and method of connection mast and top mast (moveable)suppose the top mast could be lowered ... in such case , 4 sheeves in the knight quite reasonable...4th sheeve could be used for top rope...

I will fix it like this... 😅🤣 i am not good with drawing 

Edited February 8, 2021 by Tomasz B

[kirill4]

Good day Tomasz,

Did You mean this arrangements?

One,4th sheave of the knight  need to be left free - it is used for top rope

[Larry Cowden]

On 1/27/2021 at 2:24 PM, Tomasz B said:

Yes you are completely right,  but i know all my mistakes and almost all parts of it that they are not right , so if i want them to be fixed then i will have to take almost  all of it including masts and boards yet even decking.

So i get to the point when asking myself can i really do this without giving up to soon on this ship ? 

So i am not sure i should go for that.

 If i fix one then i will go for another and another and so on ,till bulkheads 😅🤣 and never finish it😥

 

If I may offer my two cents so to speak, in the end, you're the builder, the Captain, the quality control officer, and it becomes a matter of what is acceptable to you. Those viewing your model will never know what mistakes you made, what you corrected, what is historically correct. What you will take away is what you learned and what you will apply to the next one. That "Holy Grail" of perfection will always be there to seek. I know! I have followed it many years on so many things I have built! 

[Tomasz B]

On 2/9/2021 at 6:55 AM, kirill4 said:

Good day Tomasz,

Did You mean this arrangements?

One,4th sheave of the knight  need to be left free - it is used for top rope

Good morning sir. Yes first left sheave will be free(as mentioned earlier those ropes are not glued yet they are like that just for now)this halliard picture is from GH London i will follow...

Edited February 10, 2021 by Tomasz B

[Tomasz B]

Also will replace ropes supplied with kit to my own ones made it yesterday 

[kirill4]

Good day Tomasz,

All clear, thanks

Your rope looks very good and it is correct shape for running rigging.

All the Best!

Kirill

[Tomasz B]

So here it is. Heights of this block will be adjusted later when yards done,but i think just like now is quite good (i am satisfied with 😌) 1 more to go. Also did some work with mizzen boom?(if boom is correct still Learning ,apologies) 😃  

 

Edited February 10, 2021 by Tomasz B
Upload pictures issues

[Tomasz B]

After few attempts finally make mizzen mast  parrel made of walnut and pine. Just hope they where used in that era 🙏if not please don't tell me 🤐🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[kirill4]

They were used! 😆😆😆

[kirill4]

Please consider the way, how to fitt them right way ! :)))😂

As usual - from R.C.Anderson book

 

Edited February 11, 2021 by kirill4

[kirill4]

I 've used parrel arrangements as indicated on fig.309

[Tomasz B]

1 hour ago, kirill4 said:

Please consider the way, how to fitt them right way ! :)))😂

As usual - from R.C.Anderson book

 

Just have read exactly the same page ha ha... is fig 309 can be applied to my case 🤔when i have only 2 rows of tracks ? 

[Tomasz B]

[kirill4]

Good day,

I think Yes ,why not?

I did them the same way as You with two rows...

 

 

Edited February 11, 2021 by kirill4

[Tomasz B]

Hi all.

Had to resize parrel bead, was to big imo... just did smaller.

1 picture is way too big. Last picture smaller one 

But i think this block will be to big as well 🤔

 

[kirill4]

Good day,

This variant looksmuch better,!:)

[Tomasz B]

8 minutes ago, kirill4 said:

Good day,

This variant looksmuch better,!:)

Thanks ,is more like proper size compare to mast diameter  i think.

[Tomasz B]

But this time wasn't able to make that tracks out of wood ,i used 22 awg wire sleeve brown...

[Tomasz B]

Hi All 👋.

Since last post been experimenting with sails (just didn't like the kit ones -too thick and  bad looking sewing imo)

Wasn't sure i want them😕 cuz i don't have sewing machine,

hand sewing ? Hmm tried , is not for me 😅

So i took cloth double the size of a sail and mark exactly half on it then stained one of them 

Next pulled stained strand through .

they looks not bad i think-not perfect but i am happy with , i will add rope on every edge later after shaping them and some more details on them but not sure yet what kind of🤔

not 100%sure how they should looks like...

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited March 5, 2021 by Tomasz B

[Tomasz B]

Just to see how it looks like.

I think i go for it 

[Tomasz B]

Hi All.

Little rigging and sail update 

 

 

Edited March 1, 2021 by Tomasz B

[Tomasz B]

Hi All 👋

Because Occre rigging diagram is kind of strange i think i am trying to solve the bowsprit rigging , have searched hundreds of pictures and plans also from books and all i found it should be something like this if all sources are not wrong.  

If someone can look at this and tell me i can do it like that? 

 

   

And spritsail - nothing glued yet 

 

Apologies if that was explained somewhere already, spend a week on searching and sti not sure 🤔

[kirill4]

Rigging plan in Your own building , Post #9 ... no good? :)))

[Tomasz B]

23 hours ago, kirill4 said:

Rigging plan in Your own building , Post #9 ... no good? :)))

Good afternoon Sir.

You mean occre Rigging? 

If yes then i don't understand it completely have a look at it.

  once is 3 blocks 

another time is 4 

 

I just don't get it

[Tomasz B]

Finally did that Rigging 

Is quite similar to what occre suggested but more clear for me😄😀😆....😅🤣

Of course nothing glued yet 🙃for future adjustments 

Edited March 7, 2021 by Tomasz B

[kirill4]

Good day,

Dear Tomasz,

I meant Eugen Troppmann reconstruction based on Raymond Aker GH reconstruction...

Or You could use rigging plan from book "Mayflower and other colonial vessel"

Edited March 8, 2021 by kirill4

[kirill4]

Or we could use Hoeckel/ Mondfeld rigging as variant...there are some minor differences from Eugen T. version of rigging

Edited March 8, 2021 by kirill4

[kirill4]

It is not clear from your pictures how You managed spritsail sling and You missed one block in the middle of the spritsail yard( seems You cancelled it by mistake), and one/ pair of it/ fitted on the bowsprit/ these two blocks will make spritsail halliard/ which is ness- ry for yard hoisting and lowering.

Pozition of the spritsail need to be moved to the aft, a little bit,

It need to be shifted behind fore stay lower deadeye-this will give ness-ry space for spritsail moving up and down using halliard...

For better understanding bowsprit rigging arrangement pls refer to relevant article in R.C.Anderson book...

Actualy this book contains almost 90% information ness-ry for galleon model rigging...

Edited March 8, 2021 by kirill4

[kirill4]

Maybe There is sence to add some belaying points for spritsail running rigging near the bowsprit area, where it penetrates trough bulkhead? Or before gammoning?