Whitebeard Posted June 7, 2022 Share #1 Posted June 7, 2022 So, here it goes. It's my first complex build after having completed the Billing Boats Colin Archer, and my only second wood kit. The kit does come with a nice picture instruction, and with a video one at that, however, as I had gotten my hands on one specific book, I realized that alike all model kits, this one was also simplified. I'm trying my best to pull out as many additional details as possible and follow the drawings the book provides, but I won't lie, my abilities still have much to be desired... I'm skipping the part with the keel and the first general elements of construction to the moment where it starts to look like something interesting. Here's a set of photos that briefly illustrate what has taken place so far... I took some plans from Anatomy of Ship - Beagle to figure out the planking on the decks and tried my best to imitate it with different widths, and completed the caulking by means of black paper... ...and used a ton of toothpicks as well. The sanding was relatively simple, and covering the deck with some oil brought the wood out nicely. Next came the final planking of the hull, and the rudder - Here's where I botched it (not the first time) and had to make a new one on my own, and decided to include hand-made hinges on the way... The hinges is where I first used the Dremel soldering iron - a nice toy to play with... The final result of the hull planking, painting and first details are as follows. And here's my mistake nr 2 - the planks on the stern are vertical according to OCCRE, but horizontal according to Anatomy of Ship. I discovered this a tad too late, so it stayed the same...Here, also I tried my luck with the false gallery, but in the end decided to use the kit pieces, as this did not go too well... The bow still needs some work, but it's on the way... ...and then along came the deadeyes, which were a bit of a pest to deal with. They're not finally fixed in place yet, thus some of them are tilted. It's going to be secured when I get to the rigging part...Also here, the first element which came along with the 3D printer - I've designed a few parts, including the gunports, in Blender, which have been installed and painted... As for the moment, it's time to make my way from the outside with the "furniture" on deck. The kit did have canons for assembly, but... ...printing them would bring out a few more details as well. so... ...printed, assembled, shaded, with rigging, and temporarily installed on a jig to have the same lengths of ropes... The cannonade still needs some finishing touches before the blocks and ropes are installed. The compasses and wheel, well, let's just say that Blender's a fun tool to work with, and the AOS book showed a few more details (again) that were omitted in the kit... And once assembled and painted... I know it might irritate the purists out there, as I may have reduced the quality of the kit by bringing in resin prints to the equation, but I do lack a proper woodworking shop, and the printer is a way of making up for it. All for now... Stay tuned... Cathead, ccoyle, Prowler901 and 7 others 8 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allanyed Posted June 7, 2022 Share #2 Posted June 7, 2022 (edited) Love your castings, well done and very neat work overall! The barrels look super, but I am not sure about the long gun rigging, is this something the kit shows? Just as an FYI for the future, deck treenails were typically 0.75" diameter, maybe as much as an inch. At 1:60 they would be about 0.013 which are barely visible and difficult to make, even with bamboo and a high quality draw plate like from Jim Byrnes ($25). If you look at photos of contemporary models, most do not show the trennals on the deck at this scale or even larger scales. When in doubt, leave them out 😀to avoid that measles look. Allan Edited June 22, 2022 by allanyed Cathead 1 Quote PLEASE take 30 SECONDS and sign up for the epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series. Click on http://trafalgar.tv There is no cost other than the 30 seconds of your time. THANK YOU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prowler901 Posted June 8, 2022 Share #3 Posted June 8, 2022 Well done, Sir! I love the 3d prints. And, your painting and shading of them is wonderful. Which printer are you using? Todd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitebeard Posted June 8, 2022 Author Share #4 Posted June 8, 2022 (edited) 17 hours ago, allanyed said: The barrels look super, but I am not sure about the long gun rigging, is this something the kit shows? Thanks for the complements Allan, really appreciate it! The kit? Ha ha ha... Here's a snapshot of the kit instructions (simplified beyond satisfaction), and some from the AOS book for comparison... The gun rigging would have been in fact incorrect if they were to be placed in the ports ready to see some action, but these are to be fastened to the deck for transport only (as the kit instructions AOS publication presents). I may have simplified the fastening of the gun itself to the carriage, but Having compared these sketches to other illustrations of 6 and 9-pound guns on museum ships, I've seen that the breeching wrapped around the gun and carriage does vary. Also, there is a piece of rope on the front rigging piece missing, but I'm yet to add that once the gun is on the deck, and I guess the blocks were to be double hole blocks, but mine are only 2mm in length to accommodate the scale... The deck treenails and measles ...You're absolutely right - I have in fact made them too big. Like I said - it's only the second wood build, and next time I'll be sure to consider the scale there as well. I've sen some people use brush hair for that - maybe that will look better for such a scale. Edited June 8, 2022 by Whitebeard ccoyle, GrandpaPhil, Jack-in-the-Blue and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitebeard Posted June 8, 2022 Author Share #5 Posted June 8, 2022 8 hours ago, Prowler901 said: Well done, Sir! I love the 3d prints. And, your painting and shading of them is wonderful. Which printer are you using? Todd Hey Todd, Cheers for the compliment. The beast responsible for those prints of mine is the Anycubic Photon x, with the settings for 0,002mm a layer. The painting is a regular Vallejo acrylic flat black, and the shadowing is a dry brush with Vallejo gunmetal. Quite a useful technique for plastic kits. allanyed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allanyed Posted June 8, 2022 Share #6 Posted June 8, 2022 Brush hair treenails, interesting idea! Just don't use HER brush as she might notice thousands of missing bristles. Two diameters will usually suffice for most builders, the 3/4" or so for the deck and the 1 1/2" to 2" for the ceiling and outer hull planking, depending on the ship, era, etc. Allan Quote PLEASE take 30 SECONDS and sign up for the epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series. Click on http://trafalgar.tv There is no cost other than the 30 seconds of your time. THANK YOU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prowler901 Posted June 9, 2022 Share #7 Posted June 9, 2022 17 hours ago, Whitebeard said: Hey Todd, Cheers for the compliment. The beast responsible for those prints of mine is the Anycubic Photon x, with the settings for 0,002mm a layer. The painting is a regular Vallejo acrylic flat black, and the shadowing is a dry brush with Vallejo gunmetal. Quite a useful technique for plastic kits. Nice. I've read good things about the Photon X. I have an FDM printer, but I'm very interested in getting a resin printer due to there ability to produce much finer details on small parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitebeard Posted June 9, 2022 Author Share #8 Posted June 9, 2022 2 hours ago, Prowler901 said: Nice. I've read good things about the Photon X. I have an FDM printer, but I'm very interested in getting a resin printer due to there ability to produce much finer details on small parts. It is a nice machine, I admit - the prints are fine in detail. In comparison with the Anycubic Photon S that I had used in the past, the hood in tandem with the effective fans limits the level of resin smell to a non-existent one. The printing is done fairly quickly, and the cleaning is much easier than in the Photon S... However: - The fans seem to be quite noisy, especially in the beginning, once it fires up properly, they tend to quiet down, but sometimes the rattling continues. - There is a dedicated app for it... I'm still either too dumb to figure out how it works, or it just doesn't. - Wear n' tear - The plastic on the screws securing the build plate tend to crack and break up. Prowler901 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prowler901 Posted June 10, 2022 Share #9 Posted June 10, 2022 Thanks for the extra info on the machine. Much Appreciated. Todd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitebeard Posted June 21, 2022 Author Share #10 Posted June 21, 2022 A little bit of development... Since drilling holes at regular distances and pinpoint locations seems a bit tricky for me, and because the kit elements seemed a bit, well... of lower quality than I would see fit, I've decided to employ Blender to make a few more components for the deck. The first element was the main jeer bits with winch. The kit presents this as below: All seemed ok, but as I've written, drilling the holes was a bit tricky, and wether by some bad luck, or kit elements economy quality, [ j13 ] was not made of brass but wood. Furthermore, compared to the sketch in AOS - Beagle, the kit winch lacked the ratchet wheels and paws... So, what to do? Well... Printing, assembly, and it was practically ready. The next element was the windlass. Here the kit element was quite ok, but again, comparing it to the drawings, I discovered a few details missing. ...and the drawings... The main missing elements were the iron plates (whelps - 9) that prevent any slipping on the main piece (8). Additionally, I do admit that I butchered the kit pieces - the cheeks - while attempting to install the pins on top. So...yeah...Blender time again... Drawing it did take some time, but it was time well spent. I decided to modify the ratchets (a.k.a. Pawl rims - 12) to prevent the teeth from damage while in printing. Also, it was printed in pieces to make the detail painting easier. .. Some painting, assembling, and...I broke it... I snapped the centre piece and had to install them on a wooden roll. All in all, the finished elements were to my satisfaction, though some elements still need some paint... Neither the winches nor the hatches have been placed permanently on the deck yet. I still need to pull the chains from beneath the forecastle and finish a few bits and pieces that are in front of the windlass. Doing it in a different order would limit access to others - working from the outside in seems to be a good idea. Oh right...the cannons are installed with the red plugs in the barrels... I'm contemplating one more thing with those, but that demands a little bit of weighing pros and cons... Till next time! GrandpaPhil, Cathead and BobG 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitebeard Posted June 21, 2022 Author Share #11 Posted June 21, 2022 5 hours ago, E Z Breeze said: OOOO! This is a build to watch for creative ideas. I am very impressed by your decking and very glad to have seen the picture just before tackling mine. I've done my forecastle already but fortunately, that's rather like yours anyway. I had the same reaction to the OcCre gun lashings that you did and yours looks tons better. I might try to remain a week behind you all through our builds... Thanks for the comments! The decking pins are a bit out of scale, but the caukling is an easy technique with black paper glued to the edges of the planks - a way better method than painting, drawing with a marker or sketching with a pencil. Get your hand on the Anatomy of Ship - Beagle if you can - lots of useful drawings and diagrams. If you can't, PM me, and we'll arrange something. Next week I'm leaving for Dublin for a month, and this will halt any work, don't wait up for me. Cheers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitebeard Posted August 8, 2022 Author Share #12 Posted August 8, 2022 Ok...So here's a question to anyone out there...I'm trying to wrap my head around the stowage of the dinghy on the stern on the Beagle. I've got almost everything mounted, including the horn davits and all...but...According to the following drawing in the Anatomy of Ship, the dinghy is additionally secured with three gripes (makes sense)...but none of the drawings indicate where and how these gripes are mounted or secured. What's more, the photos of the model itself show a completely different (simplified) mounting. I'd like to use the drawing as it seems to be more realistic, but am lost as to where to begin and end the gripes. Anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitebeard Posted March 9, 2023 Author Share #13 Posted March 9, 2023 A little bit of an update here, since I haven't posted anything for some time. Practically done with all of the deck "furniture" and it's almost all in place, along with the anchor chains. I'm currently experimenting with fabrics for the sails and for styling them. Still wondering what to do with the little hiccup on the front deck, so if you guys have any ideas, let me know. Also, toying with a few ideas about the anchors, and fastening them, as the kit instructions seem a bit simplified in comparison to what AOS Beagle book says. The launches are also attached (though not in the photos below - yet). Updates coming soon as these photos are a bit oldish. I'm leaving the aft deck clear for the time being, and once the masts are in place I'll be fixing the details there - I'm leaving as much open space to make the rigging easier. Prowler901, The Gimps Chimp, BobG and 3 others 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobG Posted March 9, 2023 Share #14 Posted March 9, 2023 Beautiful work! Quote Bob Garcia "Measure once, cuss twice!" Current Builds: Hms Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 - Vanguard Models Pen Duick - Artesania Latina 1:28 Completed: Medway Longboat 1742 - Syren Ship Model Co. Member of the Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitebeard Posted March 12, 2023 Author Share #15 Posted March 12, 2023 To continue with the winch on the stern and the pumps on the main deck I needed to sit back down to blender and start drawing, since the kit winch, well... I don't think so, and neither were the pumps. Both elements based on the Anatomy of Ship book, I'll just need to print them in parts to assemble in the very end. As always, printing in a few copies to ensure that if something goes sideways I'll have spares. Printing in parts to have better detail and to orient the pieces better for the layers. The only question now is the scale for print, but that's no issue. If anyone might know how this winch monstrosity actually worked, please let me know, as I'd be glad to put on it some rope or anything of the type to make it even more authentic. GrandpaPhil, The Gimps Chimp, Gus M and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus M Posted March 12, 2023 Share #16 Posted March 12, 2023 This is fantastic, on board Quote Greetings Gus ------------------------------------------------------------------- Current build log: San Francisco Cross Section Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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