Montanes 1794 by Cmm4000 - OcCre - 1:70

[allanyed]

16 hours ago, Cmm4000 said:

Had to thin it to 1.5mm I could not get the 2mm to bend on the stern wood processed and test bend successful! 

I think you are talking about the wales as the fenders ran vertically near midships.   If that is the case, the wales were in fact reduced in thickness at the stem on the real ships down to the thickness of the surrounding planks so they could seat in the rabbet at the stem without sticking out and thus being susceptible to catching on something and being ripped off.   They were not reduced at the stern, but I can see how this is a problem for you as the "walnut" is notorious for being porous and brittle and not very well suited for ship models compared to other species some other kit makers provide.

Allan

[BikerMart]

The kit instructions do indeed refer to the wales as fenders. This is one of a number of items where the name used in the instructions might not be the same as we are used to. 'Lining', for example, where we might say 'planking'.

 

[allanyed]

4 hours ago, BikerMart said:

'Lining', for example, where we might say 'planking'.

I realize this is not seen for the most part on POB, but regarding terminology, internally there are footwales, clamps, quickwork, thick stuff, and lining but nothing called planking.😁   

Allan

Edited November 10, 2023 by allanyed

[Cmm4000]

Sirs,

You are correct the instructions, if I recall correctly, refer to them as fenders and I'm guessing maybe due to translation from Spanish to English?  For me the most valuable instructions are the book of photos the plans and the parts list with the dimensions/what the part is made of. For the most part, IMHO, the instructions say something like "build this," so it looks like the plan or the photo and I'm guessing that's why this is such a cool hobby, sometimes it takes a few days just for me to figure out how to make a part. Like the bell tower, the kit part is metal had to go, I couldn't get the top cut right from a solid piece of wood so I laminated several strips together over a dowel and capped it with thin walnut squares.

Port side is done, more of the deck furniture started and work begins on the starboard side.

 

[Cmm4000]

BikerMart, Allan, 

I actually read the instructions that come with the manual, my mistake the horizontals are called rubbing strakes, and the verticals are called fenders, on the manual pictures 105 and 106 which makes way more sense. Also some pictures of the plans and text. More work on the hull. The rail is the kit supplied ply with walnut fascia and stained, not crazy with the look will probably fabricate one. Gonna play with some options this weekend. Started the work on the transom windows to replace the PE 

[BikerMart]

I agree that some of the metal parts in the kit do leave a lot to be desired! The cannon barrels and carriages are awful, in my opinion.

My Montanes build is on hold at the moment while I fit the quarterdeck on my Victory.

Your build is coming along very nicely.

 

[Cmm4000]

Hi Biker Mart, 

Your Montanes is looking good!

Been kinda busy so haven't posted for a while so here is some new pics. Alot of stuff lately is figuring out how to replace the PE/Cast parts with wood and manufacturing detail parts. Also made some feather boards for the Proxxon table saw just paint sticks and some hardware with Teflon wing nuts. Not going to use the PE stern gallery or cast parts so working on the detail in wood and brass to see which works/looks best. Wiring installed for the stern lights and planking begins on the poop deck.

And last but not El Capitán and his favorite pet raptor on deck (he is a little big so I will be ordering his clone in a smaller scale 

[BikerMart]

I admire your creativity! I plan to pretty much stick to using whatever is in the box; I certainly don't have the skills to fabricate as much as you do.

Martin

 

 

[Cmm4000]

Hi Martin,

Thank you for the compliment!

My jeweler's saw set up and inlay tools.

Mad some big progress with the stern and railing.

The wire is for the stern lanterns and the official's cabins LEDs.

 

 

 

[Cmm4000]

Scratched the bow grating the kit stuff IMHO is way out of scale. Work on the bow details continues. Stove vents built, used brass black on the supplied parts, pretty happy with the results with a sooty look.

[Cmm4000]

Work continues on the bow and details.

[Cmm4000]

Chris and Chris, Thank you for the thumbs I must be doing something right!

Lots of progress but I have been away from posting for a while so here are updates.

Finished the lower hull with seven coats of sealer and installed the rudder.

Construction of the official's cabin and the jig for building the doors and windows.

Constructed the display base out of spalted maple that I got from the cutoff box at the wood store also scored some curly maple.

I have plans to use this on the ship in dry-dock the Norske Love.

More of the official's cabin installing the hinges and door handles.

Made good progress on the bow one side is finished.

The jig to build the ladders and the ladders and fenders installed (I used beech for the fenders I could not get the walnut to cooperate, I also did them in two layers then doweled them in place.

More of the deck furniture made.

The channels from the kit are plywood and seemed to be to short so I have a longer set to cut and see how it works out I don't want to run out of channel for the standing rigging and I can always make them shorter. Also decided to use belaying pins per my question about the SJN. 

I think El Capitán got into the rum as he later fell and passed out on deck.

Oh and now I get to do the other side.

[Tyguy35]

I hope that when I get to making mine that it looks even half as good. Great work amazing wood work.  

[Cmm4000]

Tyguy35 Thank you!

Just been doing detail, navigator cabins (I used different wood and caulking to make the officials quarters and the navigator cabins stand out a bit), rails, fenders, ladders and capstans.

Gonna try making blocks, been playing with all the variables, size proportions, wood type, wood processing, machining and tumbling. I'm waiting on an ellipse template with less projection and some router bits. Looks like the hard part is going to be the mass production. The three types of wood so far castello boxwood, pear, and cherry from pen turning blanks.

Once I'm happier with the prototypes and I get the production stage I'll post more photos of the block project. On the bright side I'm not going to do sails so I won't have to make as many blocks.

Oh, El Capitán is back on his feet.

[Cmm4000]

Just more detail work.

Made a proto cannon to verify the height and milled the stock for the carriages using a table saw (The kit supplied cannons and carriages are horrid). All the detail is added to the capstains. My versions of the flag boxes and the ensign staff support. Holes drilled for the davits using a proxxon mill and a dividing head.

[Cmm4000]

More dry-fit work on the bow, just some detail work left before things get set. Detail work on the hatches and gratings and got the gun tackle worked out so I can start mass production.

The admiral got me a copy of Spanish Warships in the Age of Sail, 1700-1860: Design, Construction, Careers and Fates for Christmas I highly recommend it. I used several of the illustrations to help build the bow parts.

[Cmm4000]

Hi all, been neglecting my posting,

Got the waist grates installed, stairs, pumps and some more railing built.

Been working on a block making technique (this is a combo of much of the info from MSW thank you all). Acquired an ellipse template, cut the strips from pen blanks jigsaw/table saw and cut the groves using Proxxon mill. Shaping with files/sander, drill hole with hand drill, put wire through the hole before cutting the block free (they sure are hard to find once they go flying). Haven't run them through the tumbler yet and I've only made single sheeve blocks so far.      

[Cmm4000]

Changed the design on the cannon carriage and went with one made from individual 2x2 walnut strips. The cannon factory production so far and only 17 more to build.  If I counted correctly each cannon when installed will be 64 parts.

[Cmm4000]

My inspiration for the bow work and the bow. The forward battery cannons built and the rest in the carriages and trucks also done.  The blocks for the cannons are slowing me down, so many make. Also started adding the bitts.  The davits are cast and fairly nice so I'm going to try blackening them first if not I'll paint. I'll also drill and add a pin to the bottom for extra strength.  The Admiral ordered the Ancre monograph for the La Mahonesa for me I'm going to try my hand at scratch after the Norske Love.   

[Cmm4000]

Oops I should have typed cleats not davits.

[Cmm4000]

More block making and my blackening setup. More cannon balls glued in.

[Cmm4000]

All the cannons are finished. First coat of oil. Lanterns assembled, these are the from the kit. I drilled the bases thru for 2 mm brass tube for the wiring for the leds and sheet plastic from a container for the glass.

[Cmm4000]

Oh I forgot to mention the kit supplied parts for the lanterns soldered and blackened quite nicely happy with the results!

[Cmm4000]

Completed the bow davits and oiled all the wood. Attached the stern decoration (I haven't buffed the pins to match the decoration yet but they will blend better when I do). Next start the railing.

[Cmm4000]

Oh, here is a shot of the inspiration. The PE part is from the kit. I messed with both wood and brass decided on brass in the end.

[Cmm4000]

Completed the stern railing and work begins on the masts and ship’s boat.

[Cmm4000]

The ships boat from the kit is nicely laser cut but all ply. Made great templates to cut all the parts though! The planking is cherry, and I cut the plywood frames away and replaced them with walnut strips. The decking, keel, stem and rudder are all walnut. Still have quite a few parts to fabricate.    

[Cmm4000]

Finished the first ship's boat, still have to make the fine detail parts but the major construction is done. For the boat I used maple, cherry, walnut, and mahogany to replace the kit supplied ply. The first six supports for the walkway are in place. The supports to mount the boat are walnut and I still have to cut the uprights from cherry.  Block making continues, these are the blocks to complete the gun tackle.

[Cmm4000]

Added some more detail to the ship's boat. Waist details installed. Had to remake the supports for the ship's boat since I did not account for the width of the grating. The first gun and rigging is installed only 15 more to go.  Kicking around the idea of mounting the port side guns in the stowed position.

[Cmm4000]

Starboard battery finally completed only 10 left yea!