Fishing Dories

[Retired guy]

Trying to find out sizes

[Retired guy]

The plans show the drawing of the fishing Dories which will go on the Bluenose I am building scale is 3/16" -1'-0" or 1/64 scale.

 

This is the drawing they provide, and it says 15'-0 Dory  shown. other sizes could be used 🤔

 

So put my scale ruler on it and it reads just over 19'-0" so I am wondering where 15'-0" comes from?

 

Do have LB Jensons book and in it, it has a nice drawing of the Dories with a scale by the side, so I printed to the scale matching 3/16"-1'-0" 

 

This comes out at at 16'-9" 

 

I found a drawing which had profile which had some dimension, which I don't know if they are correct so again scaled it to size 3/16"-1'-0"

 

 

So now need to know which one is correct??

 

 

Last picture with the Dory parts from the Model

 

 

Regards

Richard

[allanyed]

Found the following that you may find interesting.  https://catalogs.marinersmuseum.org/object/CL408

There are a lot of contemporary based drawings from 15'6" to nearly 20' that popped up with a quick search if you are looking for more info on Lunenburg two man dories like those used on Bluenose.

Allan

[John Ruy]

Could the issue be as simple as measuring the bottom of the Dory rather than the rail stem to stern?

Measuring the bottom at 2.75 inches and dividing that by .1875 (3/16” = 1’) I get 14.66666 Feet as the length of the Dory as drawn. 

 

Just a thought…
 

 

 

Edited January 23 by John Ruy

[Harvey Golden]

For whatever reason, the lengths of Dories (at least from the East Coast of U.S. and Canada) have traditionally been measured along their bottoms (John Ray is correct). 

[Retired guy]

Thanks for the replies Alan, John and Harvey, did'nt think to measure the bottom.

 

LB Jensons bottom comes out at 13'-1" and Model shipways drawing comes out as per John, put a 1/64 scale man standing on bottom and it does look to scale.

 

 

Thanks a lot for the replies.

 

Regards

Richard

[wefalck]

I gather that is how 'shipbuilders' measure the length - between 'perpendiculars' ...

 

Otherwise, one could contact the Lunenburg museum guys. I remember from my visit in 2007 that they were building dories in the workshop there.

[Roger Pellett]

These dories were mass produced by specialized boatbuilders and furnished as “outfit” to owners of the fishing Schooners.  This would have allowed use of stock moulds, patterns, etc.  Two highly regarded maritime historians; Howard Chapelle, and John Gardner have published information on dories.  Both explain that they were available in standardized sizes from 12 to 16 ft in 1 ft increments.  Length was that of the bottom of the boat.  The length of the dory carried depended on whether one or two men fished in the boat.

 

Roger

[Retired guy]

Thanks Wefalck and Roger I have started to scratch build eight of these, we will see how they come out 👍

 

Regards

Richard

[Retired guy]

On 1/30/2024 at 11:13 AM, wefalck said:

I gather that is how 'shipbuilders' measure the length - between 'perpendiculars' ...

 

Otherwise, one could contact the Lunenburg museum guys. I remember from my visit in 2007 that they were building dories in the workshop there.

 

I did contact Lunenburg fisheries museum and bought a drawing of the 14'-0" bottom dory for $5.00 CDN  , it has all the dimensions I need, did ask them if they made a 15'-0" do they add the 12" equally between the five stations, and they say that is correct.

 

 

Progress on making

 

 

Regards

Richard