Firs49 Posted February 6 #1 Posted February 6 This is my first ever build but it is something I have wanted to try for years so thought I would jump in the deep end despite reading lots of horror stories of those who have started something too complex for their first build. Anyway I started after Christmas after looking at some of the other build logs and thought I would share progress as a complete newbie. The Gimps Chimp 1 Quote
Firs49 Posted February 6 Author #2 Posted February 6 Started the main deck planking and thought I would try the individual plank route with graphite marking on the edges. First error was that I cut planks too short (50mm instead of 60mm) but decided to plough on any way. The Gimps Chimp and SiriusVoyager 2 Quote
JFMJr Posted February 6 #3 Posted February 6 Looks great. I chose the HMS Beagle for my first build. Started last December. I am at the point I just attached the rudder. Directions leave a lot to figure out yourself. Have found a couple videos on the build that have really helped. People on here are great to help also. Good luck and keep us posted. Mr Whippy 1 Quote
brunnels Posted February 6 #4 Posted February 6 Great start, looks like a few of us just started the Beagle all around the same time. Quote Current Build HMS Sphinx, Vanguard Models 1:64 Scale Finished Builds: HMS Beagle
Firs49 Posted February 8 Author #5 Posted February 8 Managed to fix the main deck to the hull without too many issues and gave it a coat of the Occre satin varnish. Then fixed the end walls on the main deck which were a bit fiddly but clamping certainly helped get them in place and started planking the other deck pieces. Mr Whippy, brunnels and The Gimps Chimp 3 Quote
Firs49 Posted February 10 Author #6 Posted February 10 I know the doors in the kit have been causing some negative views so I had a go at trying to build alternatives. Could I get views on which of the two options I tried would look better on the build. Thanks. Quote
brunnels Posted February 10 #7 Posted February 10 1 hour ago, Firs49 said: I know the doors in the kit have been causing some negative views so I had a go at trying to build alternatives. Could I get views on which of the two options I tried would look better on the build. Thanks. Those look great, I like the simplicity of the right one personally. I just took my doors off the model again this morning as I am not happy with them, I might have to steal your door idea. JFMJr and Mr Whippy 2 Quote Current Build HMS Sphinx, Vanguard Models 1:64 Scale Finished Builds: HMS Beagle
Firs49 Posted February 11 Author #8 Posted February 11 15 hours ago, brunnels said: Those look great, I like the simplicity of the right one personally. I just took my doors off the model again this morning as I am not happy with them, I might have to steal your door idea. Thanks for the feedback. That is the way I am going to go with one addition and that is thinning the doorframe down with a scalpel. If it helps I glued a 1/32" thick piece of basswood to the photoetch door - to get the same size and also gives a bit of thickness to glue the frame to. I used the sapelli stain on this basswood and the two inserts on the door were from planking lefts overs with edges sanded. The door knob was from a pin in the kit which was snipped and glued and the frame came from the small square pieces in the kit that are meant for something else later in the build which I hopefully won't run short of now. Quote
The Gimps Chimp Posted February 11 #9 Posted February 11 Build is looking good. Looking forward to following your progress Chimp Quote Current Build: .... Previous Builds: HMS Beagle - OcCre, HM Schooner Ballahoo - Caldercraft
JFMJr Posted February 13 #10 Posted February 13 Quit messing with the doors! Just kidding. (They do look good) Waiting to see your planking method.... lol Rookie here, now working on the Bow for the HMS Beagle. Quote
Firs49 Posted February 19 Author #11 Posted February 19 On 2/13/2024 at 8:37 PM, JFMJr said: Quit messing with the doors! Just kidding. (They do look good) Waiting to see your planking method.... lol Rookie here, now working on the Bow for the HMS Beagle. Anything to delay planking which I must admit I am dreading. Quote
Firs49 Posted February 19 Author #12 Posted February 19 Well played around with the doors and fixed them on and now looking at attaching the bulwarks. wvdhee, Mr Whippy, The Gimps Chimp and 2 others 5 Quote
brunnels Posted February 19 #13 Posted February 19 Wow, those doors look great, much better than what I have been able to come up with. Firs49 1 Quote Current Build HMS Sphinx, Vanguard Models 1:64 Scale Finished Builds: HMS Beagle
Firs49 Posted February 23 Author #14 Posted February 23 First (of many I am sure!!) disaster with trying to bend the bulwark for the bow. The wood split leaving me with a bit of a repair job to do. Already 'looking forward' to planking and what that involves. Mr Whippy 1 Quote
ccoyle Posted February 23 #15 Posted February 23 1 hour ago, Firs49 said: The wood split leaving me with a bit of a repair job to do. Did you pre-soak the bulwarks? Best thing to do is to soak the plywood until it can easily be bent, then temporarily pin the piece to the hull (no glue) and allow it to dry. The shaped piece is then much easier to glue in place. Mr Whippy and The Gimps Chimp 2 Quote Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, DS Børøysund
Firs49 Posted February 23 Author #16 Posted February 23 1 hour ago, ccoyle said: Did you pre-soak the bulwarks? Best thing to do is to soak the plywood until it can easily be bent, then temporarily pin the piece to the hull (no glue) and allow it to dry. The shaped piece is then much easier to glue in place. Hi Chris. I did soak it but I don't think it was for long enough. Lessons you learn along the way!! Mr Whippy, flutlo6180, ccoyle and 1 other 4 Quote
RossR Posted February 23 #17 Posted February 23 I did the same thing on my Beagle. Definitely a weak spot were the bulwark narrows. Should be fixable, but if you want to wait a few weeks, Occre is happy to send a replacement part. They are mailed from Spain, so depending were you live it can take a few weeks. You can order the part on their website, but I would suggest fixing and not waiting. Mr Whippy and The Gimps Chimp 2 Quote Completed Build: HMS Beagle - Occre Current Builds: Frigate Diana - Occre https://modelshipworld.com/topic/33530-frigate-diana-by-rossr-occre-185/ Santisima Trinidad - Occre - Cross Section https://modelshipworld.com/topic/37130-santisima-trinidad-by-rossr-occre-190-cross-section/ On the Shelf: NRG Half Hull, the US Brig Syren - Model Shipways and USF Essex - Model Shipways
Firs49 Posted February 23 Author #18 Posted February 23 37 minutes ago, RossR said: I did the same thing on my Beagle. Definitely a weak spot were the bulwark narrows. Should be fixable, but if you want to wait a few weeks, Occre is happy to send a replacement part. They are mailed from Spain, so depending were you live it can take a few weeks. You can order the part on their website, but I would suggest fixing and not waiting. Yep gone for the fix Mr Whippy and RossR 2 Quote
Firs49 Posted February 23 Author #19 Posted February 23 Repair job JFMJr, RossR, The Gimps Chimp and 1 other 4 Quote
brunnels Posted February 23 #20 Posted February 23 1 hour ago, Firs49 said: Repair job Nice fix, there are a few laser cut plywood pieces they want you to bend on the Beagle and all of them make me nervous. Luckily planking isn't as high stakes as if you snap a plank you can just grab another, which isn't the case with laser cut plywood parts. Quote Current Build HMS Sphinx, Vanguard Models 1:64 Scale Finished Builds: HMS Beagle
Firs49 Posted March 4 Author #21 Posted March 4 Just trying to fix first planking to stern and having some issues with the glue. Have tried super glue but does not seem to want to grip the wood to wood bond. Any suggestions welcomed. Thanks Quote
brunnels Posted March 4 #22 Posted March 4 6 hours ago, Firs49 said: Just trying to fix first planking to stern and having some issues with the glue. Have tried super glue but does not seem to want to grip the wood to wood bond. Any suggestions welcomed. Thanks I don't think CA Glue will hold the bent wood on the first planking. You are going to want use PVA glue and either nail it down or clamp it down. I personally used Titebond PVA glue and the nails that were included in the kit and it worked great. Firs49 1 Quote Current Build HMS Sphinx, Vanguard Models 1:64 Scale Finished Builds: HMS Beagle
Snug Harbor Johnny Posted March 4 #23 Posted March 4 I'd had some luck on geometry like that by 'nearly' boiling (starting to bubble) some water, then (off the stove) soaking the end into the hot water (not too long) and carefully pre-bending / forming around a similar curve ... even using my teeth a little (one can 'feel' when the wood wants to crack before it breaks, but the pressure can be quickly modulated in response). A couple of go's might do it, and the wood is mostly dried before gluing. With water-based glues, the wood does not have to be completely 'bone dry', and the glue will work all the same. Whatever works ... Firs49 1 Quote Completed builds: Khufu Solar Barge - 1:72 Woody Joe Current project(s): Gorch Fock restoration 1:100, Billing Wasa (bust) - 1:100 Billings, Great Harry (bust) 1:88 ex. Sergal 1:65
Firs49 Posted March 5 Author #24 Posted March 5 Internal planking to the bulwarks complete. Cutting out of the holes was not that easy. brunnels, The Gimps Chimp and Knocklouder 3 Quote
Firs49 Posted March 5 Author #25 Posted March 5 First planking on stern complete. Ended up using super glue gel with clamps to secure planks. A few gaps which I will use filler on and final sanding. brunnels, The Gimps Chimp, ccoyle and 2 others 5 Quote
brunnels Posted March 5 #26 Posted March 5 I found a little hobby saw blade attachment for my razor blade made tasks like cutting the cannon ports way easier. They will need to be cut open a couple more times during the planking. This is what I use. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08SQQHD9M/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 The Gimps Chimp 1 Quote Current Build HMS Sphinx, Vanguard Models 1:64 Scale Finished Builds: HMS Beagle
Firs49 Posted March 5 Author #27 Posted March 5 36 minutes ago, brunnels said: I found a little hobby saw blade attachment for my razor blade made tasks like cutting the cannon ports way easier. They will need to be cut open a couple more times during the planking. This is what I use. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08SQQHD9M/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Thanks for the hint. I have got something similar but found it a bit harsh on the narrow strips. Hopefully it will better on the planking strips. Quote
Knocklouder Posted March 5 #28 Posted March 5 Nice work, coming along nicely. I have only been modeling for just about three years, I found the articles about planking in the MSW data base great. They really helped me. Although I still have not got the hang of it I almost understand lol. Keep up the great work you'll have a model to be proud of. The Gimps Chimp and Mr Whippy 2 Quote Start so you can Finish !! Finished: The Sea of Galilee Boat-Scott Miller-1:20 , Amati } Hannah Ship in a Bottle:Santa Maria : LA Pinta : La Nana : The Mayflower : Viking Ship Drakkar The King Of the Mississippi Artesania Latina 1:80 Current Build: Royal Yacht, Duchess of Kingston-Vanguard Models
Firs49 Posted March 9 Author #29 Posted March 9 And so the planking on the main hull has begun!! The Gimps Chimp 1 Quote
Firs49 Posted March 20 Author #30 Posted March 20 So planking around the bulwarks is nearly complete now so I am reaching out for advice. I have studied various approaches to planking the hull which are quite varied so I could do with some pointers on would be the best approach for someone who has never planked a hull before. I know the first planking layer is not so critical but I would like it to act as a guide for the second layer. Any comments welcomed. Thanks Quote
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