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I finished all of the gun port liners. I did go over some of them again to try and square them up, but opted to put a coat of primer on to bring out any issues easily. The dark woods tend to hide issues and as can be seen here, once everything is white, you can see where I may need to make accommodations.

 

I did notice that some of the 2nd planking doesn't fit tightly together. I know much of it will be hidden by the copper plates. And there are also gaps in the upper planking that will be visible.

 

I want to add one more coat of primer after this one dries and I have had a chance to quickly and lightly sand it in a few days.

Perhaps that coat and then the addition of the two different stripes will help to fill in some of the voids or at least smooth them out and make them less visible.

 

I also notice some of the wales are bulging out and will have to be sanded back a bit.

 

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"In every revolution, there is one man with a vision"

- Captain James T. Kirk

 

Chris

Current build :   Caldercraft HMS Victory 1/72

 

Completed:   Trumpeter RMS Titanic 1/200

 

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Been a while, but I have moved along. Not always for the best, in fact as I stand here today, I am both happy and very unhappy with progress so far.

 

Laid out the water line per the plans. Just jury rigged a pencil to a piece of wood and drew my lines after leveling the hull as best as possible. 

 

My error was the line at the bow. It follows the wales and while it looked ok before painting, looking at other builds after the fact it seemed to me that there needs to be more of the planking below the lower wale before the water line begins.

 

After painting, it was clear that I needed to fix that....

 

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"In every revolution, there is one man with a vision"

- Captain James T. Kirk

 

Chris

Current build :   Caldercraft HMS Victory 1/72

 

Completed:   Trumpeter RMS Titanic 1/200

 

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After taping off everything, began painting. I used my airbrush and began experimenting with various thinners I have in stock. I had tried Tamiya and that didn't seem to work well. Neither did AK, Vellejo or Real Color thinners. Ultimately after getting an email from Jotika suggesting I use water, that's what I went with and it seems to go well....just watch how thin you make it.

 

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You can see here that the water line is too high at the bow. It needs to actually follow my planking that is barely visible here.

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I re-taped the bow and fell like that will be more realistic. 

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"In every revolution, there is one man with a vision"

- Captain James T. Kirk

 

Chris

Current build :   Caldercraft HMS Victory 1/72

 

Completed:   Trumpeter RMS Titanic 1/200

 

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I taped off striping for the hull and then began laying down the first layer of yellow ochre.

 

Unfortunately, while cleaning the airbrush, the chucking nut that holds the needle in place fell on the floor.

This is the second time I've done that. Last time while painting my Titanic model and I never found it.

I did not find this one....I tried to paint without it, but the flow was too heavy. 

 

So I had to order a new one....ordered two this time. 

 

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"In every revolution, there is one man with a vision"

- Captain James T. Kirk

 

Chris

Current build :   Caldercraft HMS Victory 1/72

 

Completed:   Trumpeter RMS Titanic 1/200

 

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As I waited for that part, I took a stab at some other items.

 

I needed 7 grates and they went together pretty easily.

The first one, I installed all the grates for one side, then put a piece of masking tape over the whole piece to flip over.

 

I thought that was a good tactic but the tape keeps the assembly from moving, so if it isn't square, the next set of grates are harder to install.

 

After that, I removed the tape after flipping it and it went very easy after that.

 

Installing the coamings for the grates was a bit of a task. The plan required mitering of the corners. I didn't have anything to cut reliable angles, but I do have a full size band saw with a small 1/4" blade but I don't have any slides for cutting angle.

 

So the first grating I just cut everything at 90 degree angles. It worked fine.

 

I ordered a cheap cutter and it came the next day. I cut 2 or 3 pieces of 3mmx4mm walnut and the blade broke. In addition, it cut lousy angles and it was impossible to see my cutting lines.

 

I ordered a more expensive wooden version of a cutter and while I haven't used it yet, it appears to be a higher quality.

 

I finished all the gratings with the plastic cutter and filled any gaps with wood putty.

 

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Making the stairs was hell itself.

The instructions suggest the ideal tactic is to make a jig. 

I do not believe you can do this without using a jig. The treads at 1mm in thickness just do not easily fit into the side rails without a bit of force.

 

You can see just below the 3 stairs I did. The middle one was my first non jig attempt. It is a horror to look at.

The one on the right was with the jig, but I took it out too soon. The pressure created by the tightly fitting treads pushed the whole thing a part and the side rails broke trying to get humpty dumpty back together again.

The left one, I left in till the glue set up better. My fear is that once dry, I wouldn't be able to get the stairs out. So it's a dance to get it out at the right moment.

 

My only saving grace is that these stairs are mostly hidden under the upper deck which is mostly hidden by the quarter deck....and they will prepare me for what I need to do for the stairs on the quarter and top decks which will be very visible.

 

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"In every revolution, there is one man with a vision"

- Captain James T. Kirk

 

Chris

Current build :   Caldercraft HMS Victory 1/72

 

Completed:   Trumpeter RMS Titanic 1/200

 

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Got my chucking nut and laid down the yellow ochre.

 

After finishing it and removing the tape, I was semi happy with the striping. 

There are a lot of pictures here because I tried different camera modes to try an capture the correct colors.

 

I thought the final painting was going to solve my concerns over the quality of the hull work thus far.

I did not. I only made the flaws and gaps much more noticeable. It was just too much to handle.

 

I've said elsewhere, this kit is VERY DIFFICULT. I don't think I was fully prepared for the hurdles I was going to have to jump through.

In retrospect, I should have tackled a less difficult model to gain experience in planking and the yet to come rigging.

Is this model ok for on the job learning? I don't know. The Trumpeter Titanic was the same way, so many pieces, so much small detail on a 1/200 scale ship.

 

The nice thing about this model is the quality of the manuals. Detailed and plainly written...while in contrast Trumpeter's was 20 or so pages of pictures, no words.

 

Also, the Titanic model has many quality YouTube builder logs that I was able to follow while doing my model. There are very few Caldercraft specific Victory YouTube logs, I have watched all of them and still continue to search. There are certainly many other wooden ship models that have helped with specific tasks and I continue to search and save.

 

Either way, I will press on, but am less than happy with certain aspects of my work. 

 

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"In every revolution, there is one man with a vision"

- Captain James T. Kirk

 

Chris

Current build :   Caldercraft HMS Victory 1/72

 

Completed:   Trumpeter RMS Titanic 1/200

 

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So after stressing and mulling, I broke out my filler and went crazy.

I bought little sanding 'sticks' with the sanding material glued to the ends and filled every gap and crevice I could find.

 

Then sanding, sanding and more sanding. Once done, I had to re-tape everything, painting the yellow ochre then waiting for it to dry and doing the black.

 

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"In every revolution, there is one man with a vision"

- Captain James T. Kirk

 

Chris

Current build :   Caldercraft HMS Victory 1/72

 

Completed:   Trumpeter RMS Titanic 1/200

 

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After the taping and painting which I did my brush this time, I was left with a little bit of leakage that I had to carefully touch up.

 

Did it help? A little. Other than starting from scratch, ripping all the wales and lids away, sanding smooth and starting again, this was my only choice.

 

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"In every revolution, there is one man with a vision"

- Captain James T. Kirk

 

Chris

Current build :   Caldercraft HMS Victory 1/72

 

Completed:   Trumpeter RMS Titanic 1/200

 

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I added the red ochre to the port side gun liners. Again a little more paint touch up and another once over of the yellow and black and I think I am going to call the port side done.


I will do the starboard side tomorrow....

 

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Installed the coamings and gratings and they look fine...or grate?!!

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"In every revolution, there is one man with a vision"

- Captain James T. Kirk

 

Chris

Current build :   Caldercraft HMS Victory 1/72

 

Completed:   Trumpeter RMS Titanic 1/200

 

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I finished touching up the gunports. I still have some minor spots to get at and needed to flip the hull upside down to get the 'top gun ports'

 

I didn't get any pictures of where I am so far but decided to start the copper plating. I started at 1:59pm in the first pic and the 2nd pic at 5:43pm.

 

I took about 30 minutes or so in the middle to eat lunch and check some other builds and my books to make sure I had a plan in place for laying out the tiles.

 

So 5 rows in about 3-3.5 hours. I'll see you when it's done!!!! 

 

 

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"In every revolution, there is one man with a vision"

- Captain James T. Kirk

 

Chris

Current build :   Caldercraft HMS Victory 1/72

 

Completed:   Trumpeter RMS Titanic 1/200

 

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Good luck with the copper plates.  Can’t wait to see it when you are done.  

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  • 3 weeks later...

Over the past 3 weeks, I have spent about 2-4 hours at a sitting working on the copper plates. I did begin filling in some of the stealer plates, but I used regular scissors to cut them (which works, they cut easily) but they do bend a bit and when I installed them, they didn't look very clean.

 

I stopped installing more partial plates and concentrated on full plates only. Once I am done, I will go back and tackle the partials. I removed any of the partials that I did that looked bad. 

 

I also have a bit of a gap between the hull and the keel on the port side nearer the stern. I should have filled this in before. It will be visible when done, but nothing more I can do other than remove those plates and fill the gap. We'll see....

 

I finished the port side and I'm working on the starboard side. However the weather has finally turned for the better up in the northeast US and I have been concentrating on getting my boat in the water. I guess you see that a lot in builder logs....huge gaps between spurts. 

 

I also started working on the cannons as a break. I would do 4 or so courses of plates and then remove five cannons and build the bases. I don't have any pictures of that. So far, that is pretty standard work. Cutting out the carriages, axles and wheels is fairly easy, the stock is thick and does require a bit of power to cut through the sprue to get them free.

 

I sanded all of the carriages and axles to remove any fuzz. I also drilled out the holes for the bed bolt. The factory holes are a bit smaller than the 1mm wire provided. I created a crude jig for the fitting the carriages and axles together. Just some small blocks glued to a larger piece of wood to hold the carriages apart while adding the 2 axles.

 

Having seen some builders add a wire loop to the back of the cannon to hold the breaching wires. I like that. I'm thinking I would run all 30 cannons through a piece of wire to hold them all upright and then seeing if my looper pliers can create a small enough loop to suit the task. 

 

...that's down the road a bit, but I think that doing a few different tasks when working on something like copper plating or planking helps to keep the builder motivated.

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"In every revolution, there is one man with a vision"

- Captain James T. Kirk

 

Chris

Current build :   Caldercraft HMS Victory 1/72

 

Completed:   Trumpeter RMS Titanic 1/200

 

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In between cutting the grass, power washing the winter away and other stuff that is supposed to be fun....I have tried to plug away on Victory.

 

I think I am very close, maybe a few more rainy days away from finishing the full copper plating. Once done, I will concentrate of adding the little wedges and edges. I want to be sure they are as perfect as I can make them....or as perfect as my fingers will let me!

 

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"In every revolution, there is one man with a vision"

- Captain James T. Kirk

 

Chris

Current build :   Caldercraft HMS Victory 1/72

 

Completed:   Trumpeter RMS Titanic 1/200

 

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I have also been building the 30 cannons for the upper deck. 

 

I have 15 bases done. I have cut out the remaining pieces (except the wedges for the cannons...they seem very fragile and I expect I will be creating a lot of them on my own).

 

I have left all the wheels for later, I've seen where builders have strung them on a wire and sanded them all together. That sounds like a plan I'll try.

 

After sanding all the sides and axles, I use a basic jig to build the bases. I also drill out the holes for the bed bolt brass wire. The wire is about 1mm and he hole is about not 1mm, so it needs a bit of widening. 

 

I do 5 at a time because my patience begins to wander. There is still a lot to do. I have to create or use kit pieces for all of the eyelets on the cannons and the interior walls. I have to learn how to rig the tackles and breaching tackles and more. I have to blacken everything and create jigs to consistently line up the final cannons. So exciting! 

 

My hope is that as this will be my first attempt at creating the blocks  and seizing the lines for the tackles and it will prepare me for future more complicated rigging tasks.

 

 

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"In every revolution, there is one man with a vision"

- Captain James T. Kirk

 

Chris

Current build :   Caldercraft HMS Victory 1/72

 

Completed:   Trumpeter RMS Titanic 1/200

 

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5 minutes ago, kiwiron said:

Looking good. Small medic type scissors work well for the small pieces. Yes you will stick those pieces into your fingers. 

I have a set of those from a previous model. I was planning on trying them out. I did try using an exacto knife for a few, that worked well too, but was very labor intensive and had a greater risk of cutting what's left of my finger tips off. 

 

Thanks for the tip!!!!!

Chris

"In every revolution, there is one man with a vision"

- Captain James T. Kirk

 

Chris

Current build :   Caldercraft HMS Victory 1/72

 

Completed:   Trumpeter RMS Titanic 1/200

 

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