Will Everard by Micklen32 - Billing Boats - 1:67

[Micklen32]

That sounds great mobbsie

Did you give yours planking similar to the Everard ?????

And if so how did you finish it ?????

I keep looking for a picture of the decks but I haven't seen any as yet

If anyone has a definite idea how it was finished I would be very happy

[Micklen32]

Well blow me down with a wet sponge

No sooner had I written the piece above I had a quick google with a slightly different search string and I found a good photo of a Thames Barge deck

 

 

So what do you think

A nice very light blue grey ??????

[popeye the sailor]

problem solved 

[Sjors]

If that's an original, then go for it !

 

[egkb]

Bingo.. that looks a lot like the Dove Grey my dad used to use.. go for it Mick, I doubt you'll get any argument from us lot

 

Eamonn

[mobbsie]

Hi Mick,

 

I took a load of pics of the Edme and I hope you don't mind but I will send you a picture of her deck. I didn't paint mine blue, I just put a coat of varnish on and kept the wood colour.

 

The Edme is a timber construction so I didn't have the same problem you have of trying to replicate a steel hull, not easy.

 

I don't think you will be disappointed with the colour of the deck mate, it's not far from what your looking for.

 

 

 

You can Google Will Everard, she is still around.

 

Be Good

 

mobbsie

 

 

[Micklen32]

That looks a nice ship mobbsie

Quite a vivid blue on the deck

 

I think I will paint my deck 

Maybe the hull colour

Maybe slightly different

 

The hull paint arrived and I am very pleased with the colour

 

 

However it really really shows up that I need some very delicate filling if I want it to look good

I have run out of decent filler so there will be a bit of a wait again

I may just spray the very bottom of the hull to see what the red paint I have got looks like

May have a go at that tomorrow

Edited December 6, 2013 by Micklen32

[Sjors]

You are on the right track Mick !

 

Looks great.

 

[popeye the sailor]

kind of a duck egg blue...........looks very nice!

[Micklen32]

I mixed a little bit of the Hull Red to see what it looked like

I didn't bother masking it

 

 

It is a little darker than I expected 

The Admiral though it looked great

I am, at the moment, on the fence   

What do you all think ?????????????????????

 

Loads of responses please

The more the better   

[Sjors]

It's red ......

It's dark red......

It's not fire brigade red......

I think I like it !

I know for sure that I like it !

 

[michael mott]

Mick  I think the red looks good. I have noticed that the dark colours show up minor imperfections in surface finishes more than light colours, so a dark primer is best for doing the fine finish sanding.

 

Michael

[mobbsie]

Hi Mick,

 

I don't think you need change anything at all, I think the colour is perfect and the effect it gives on the surface is typical of the boats today.

 

You are never going to get a pristine finish on a boat that's almost a hundred years old, but I suppose it all depends on the effect your after, for me, change nothing.

 

Hope that's a help.

 

Be Good

 

mobbsie

[usedtosail]

I like the colors too. Go for it

[egkb]

Totally agree with all the previous posters.. when you have done the grey upper hull the red will 'sit back' so fear not also the illusion at the moment is that there is a lot of it (red paint) but when you have it all nice and straight this will also make the red 'sit back'.. if you follow me

 

Eamonn

[popeye the sailor]

yup.........uh-huh.....you should have taped it  ;}.......oh....and I like the color too

[Micklen32]

Ok great

Thanks all

So that's the colour sorted 

 

The filling wax arrived today

Here it is

 

 

This is light pine

They do loads of colours

 

What you do is take a sharp knife and take a few shavings

 

 

What you do then is take the shavings between your fingers and roll them into one lump softening it slightly

You don't want a lot at once unless you have a huge hole

I was using bits the size of a sunflower seed or smaller

 

You then rub it into the hole, split, whatever

Rub it in firmly trying to get it as good as possible

Then depending on the area you can gently scrape it with a blade to get it nearly perfect and use a very light paper on it

I tend to use Nyweb but 400 to 1000 grit wet and dry worked fine depending on how much you want to get off

What is really great is you can get it exactly where you want it 

Also it doesn't seem to pull out very easily like wet filler can

I was very pleased with it

The amount you use it should last forever 

 

I should be able to get the hull properly painted soon and fit the strakes and stuff that go on the hull

[egkb]

Nice.. this is another thing that I'd never heard of.  Thanks for the 'How To..' (was about to ask until I read down)

 

 

Eamonn

[Micklen32]

I thought I had better shake myself out of my laziness and do something   

The physio has me doing exercises and the like that do drain me a bit  :mellow: 

But I did manage to do the filling I wanted

Obviously it is not easy to see but here is what it looks like after being smoothed off with the wax filler

 

 

Very little sanding should be required

You bring it to as perfect as you can by smoothing with your finger and scraping with a sharp knife

Tomorrow I hope to give it a few coats of paint   

[Micklen32]

Well I was going to do the spraying today but we went for a Christmas dinner round the local pub

Result, I am stuffed beyond stuffing

[Micklen32]

Managed to get some spraying done   

It's so difficult to get the consistancy right

Didn't do too bad this time though

 

 

I think the colours look quite nice

What do you think of the deck that colour????

Club day tomorrow so should be able to look at the stakes or whatever on the outside on Thursday   

[egkb]

I'd have no problem with those colours Mick, starting to really move along now!

 

Eamonn

[popeye the sailor]

nice spray work there Mick.......looks much better now!   were the decks a bluish color?   if they were,  then your on the right track! 

[Micklen32]

Well I have found an image showing the deck of the Will at one point in her life

 

 

As you can see the planked part is coloured blue and the rest of the deck a similar colour to the lower hull

I think then that I will paint the planking the same as the upper hull and the rest the same as the lower hull

What do you think ???????

[Micklen32]

Started fitting the strakes today

It looks as if it will be a long job  :mellow:

 

 

I hate using CA on paint but I couldn't see an option 

Maybe I should have got some more contact adhesive

Not sure

 

Anyway that's the top strake on one side

It took ages to gently bring it round and get it where I wanted it

There is another strake below the two side boards

That will be very slightly thinner and white

Above the black strake at bow and stern will be white and between the two strakes, black

 

On the actual barge, below the strakes, there are portholes

The model does not have them

I suppose really I should have them

They are very basic portholes

Do you think a simple hole in the hull with maybe a painted ring around it ???

Or should I go further ????????

Remember I do not have fancy kit to make good looking parts 

[sawdust]

 Hello Mick. I believe the portholes on the hull were only added in recent years, when used as a corporate " party vessel ". Since you are modeling the Will Everard  its original name, a working barge and not the Will ( as named in recent years) you have every justification for not including portholes, You are the captain it is your choice.

 Kip

[Micklen32]

Aaaah, thanks for that Kip

I must admit I was a bit surprised and wasn't over fond of them

They will not be fitted then

That saves a job

Thanks again Kip

Edited December 19, 2013 by Micklen32

[popeye the sailor]

keep in mind the year that your going to portray her.......if they weren't there,  then don't put them in.  you posed an interesting question,  about not having a fancy kit,  to make good looking parts.     the only true answer I can give,  is that it's your imagination and creativity,  that will make a good looking part.  the kit only gives you the basis   Happy Holidays,  my friend!

[Micklen32]

Cheers Popeye 

 

I thought fitting the painted strakes on the painted hull would be easier

I am not sure whether I am a messy worker but there will be a lot of touching up 

Maybe even a spray of the red 

Edited December 20, 2013 by Micklen32

[popeye the sailor]

it happens Mick........it's all about the process.   whether to reduce the amount of CA,  or use something different.  what matters is what you arrive at in the end.   your doing a fine job