moreplovac Posted September 12 Author Share #61 Posted September 12 Continue with frame building, sanding, etc... after checking the thickness on all frame parts, I discovered some discrepancies on thickness due to bad plan copies and in most time, my mistakes... so some parts I will be able to reuse and some not... so new and old frames lined up... other, missing in this "fish line" are still on the board, waiting for cut.. Happy modelling.. GrandpaPhil, Mike Y, mtaylor and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moreplovac Posted September 14 Author Share #62 Posted September 14 Keel structure needed a bit of a extra work so here is current keel built stage.. Rabbet lines were giving me the hardest time, mistakes like missing correct plan line, too deep chisel cuts, slip over working part making bad scratch marks (not like "Cat scratch fever" Ted Nugget) etc, causing make of two extra stem, apron and forefoot parts... oh well, will have plenty of pear wood for other ship parts and other ship kits are waiting in line.. won't go to waste bin. Continue with wrapping up keel work so I can jump on frames... Happy modelling. Rik Buter, CiscoH, davyboy and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Idea Posted September 15 Share #63 Posted September 15 Lovely work I used to worry about all of the little scratches and marks but I have found that as the ship progresses they disappear into the detail. When I cut my rabbets I did them too shallow - when I build me next ship I will have an actual plank ready to help me cut to the right depth. Keep the updates coming! mtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moreplovac Posted September 15 Author Share #64 Posted September 15 Thank you No Idea, I was, I think, too worried with all those small dings and scratches, not that I would not care anymore, but looking into other's logs I start noticing them too often so I am not making a new keel structure... yeah, making an actual plank as a rabbet line depth reference is a very nice idea... Cheers mtaylor and No Idea 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moreplovac Posted September 16 Author Share #65 Posted September 16 And to make my modelling life even more complicated, this is what arrived today, bigger scale: So, current build will definitelly be a learning curve.. Happy modelling.. yvesvidal, G. Delacroix, CiscoH and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moreplovac Posted September 20 Author Share #66 Posted September 20 In the process of inventory check and making missing parts.. Happy modelling.. mtaylor, davyboy, GrandpaPhil and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moreplovac Posted September 27 Author Share #67 Posted September 27 Getting inventory off all frame parts... Missing parts are ready to be cut... recycling some old, bad ship parts... mtaylor, No Idea, GrandpaPhil and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moreplovac Posted September 27 Author Share #68 Posted September 27 Working now on transom timbers... Testing on a spare wood part, wing transom.. I think I grasped needed steps for wing transom... Now, started to work on lower transom timbers, from #5.. Not sure about you but I always trying to use protective gloves when using scalpels or other cutting tools.. have enough marcs on my tomb from "I can stop it no problem"... And a little bit of mistake... New part on the bench.. I think I have it done right, hopefully... not all cuts are done but the most difficult, at least for me, is completed... Here are various hand tools used for this piece.. Happy modelling.. druxey, marsalv, davyboy and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moreplovac Posted October 1 Author Share #69 Posted October 1 A bit work on timbers... I don't have board thick enough so 2x5mm glued together to provide a good foundation for wing transom.. and two completed 90% Happy modelling GrandpaPhil, druxey, dvm27 and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Idea Posted October 1 Share #70 Posted October 1 Sanding those timbers by hand is tricky and they look great. Keep one of your discarded wing transom’s as it will help you build the counter timbers off of the ship 👍 mtaylor and moreplovac 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moreplovac Posted October 1 Author Share #71 Posted October 1 Yeah, I could not find any more efficient way for massaging those timber other than by hand/hand tools... Thanks for the tip, I already have a pile of "spare" parts looking for a new life.. CiscoH and mtaylor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moreplovac Posted October 4 Author Share #72 Posted October 4 It took me a while but I believe I grasped them all good... with several, I would call them "to-be-used-in-the-near-future" parts, I managed to get 4 transom done.. not completely but most carving was performed and completed..Here are some process pictures, lots of marking, line drawing, pre-sanding, etc but must admit that pear wood is perfect for these parts; yes, I have few broken ends but those are just my mistake not placing transom templates correctly on the wood grain. Once I stabilized that part I was able to carve very nice and sharp objects... For carving I used combo of files-sand paper various sizes, scalpel and carving knife; base sanding was done on Proxxon disk sander and spindle sander with band saw helping cutting parts of the board. And protective gloves as a must when carving is in place.... I think with amount of bandaids I purchased, it makes sense getting a basic carving protective gloves instead... Angle sanding cuts are there to protect wood chipping... This is one of failures which I am using as a test part for fitting.. I had a bit of a hard time understanding the final shape of a part which ended up with few extra parts done. But there will be a new life for them in future steps.. So I have a question; how deep red marked notches (for keelson) should be in these parts? Are they going all the way to the back side (for example on #5) following red marked square, with 90 degrees angle, leaving the notch wider on the top side and narrowing down towards bottom, following the shape of a transom? I see various depth in other people' posts so not sure what shape notches should be taken.. Here is my fitting test part on the plan. If I am seeing it correctly, I have it shaped properly. Feedback is appreciated before I start making cuts.. Happy modelling.. CiscoH, Tobias, druxey and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moreplovac Posted October 5 Author Share #73 Posted October 5 Keep working on timbers, fitting and testing.. I don't have angled wise for my proxxon mill so I had to be a bit creative by using mill for horizontal cuts for keel notches, as much as I can, then with a hand saw cutting a angled line on both ends and finishing up with scalpel removing excess wood. Then filling, testing, filling, testing... etc... So far #2 and #3 were 90% ready. still need to check with a plan to sand them a bit and #4 is made of thicker wood so need a bit of sanding before fitting exercise.. Happy modelling. No Idea, GrandpaPhil, mtaylor and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Idea Posted October 6 Share #74 Posted October 6 Nice one 👍 You are literally going through the same learning curve that I did when making these parts. You worked it quicker than me looks great! moreplovac and mtaylor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druxey Posted October 6 Share #75 Posted October 6 When cutting the bevels, leave them a little full to allow for final fairing. You can always take a little more off, but not put it back on! mtaylor, moreplovac and No Idea 3 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moreplovac Posted October 7 Author Share #76 Posted October 7 On 10/6/2024 at 8:09 AM, No Idea said: Nice one 👍 You are literally going through the same learning curve that I did when making these parts. You worked it quicker than me looks great! Yeah, looks like that.... I learn with every cut, sanding move, etc .... mtaylor and No Idea 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moreplovac Posted Thursday at 08:25 PM Author Share #77 Posted Thursday at 08:25 PM I think I finally get this little bugger #4 done; it took me several attempts and I think I have it correct but we will see down the build... So far if I put together all bad parts I made, I might ended up with one good pear wood board . Anyhow, next is work on #1 timber... Happy modelling.. GrandpaPhil, Maxthebuilder, bdgiantman2 and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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