MrBlueJacket Posted Monday at 01:54 PM #1051 Posted Monday at 01:54 PM Just a note- the NRG photo competition wants a 500 WORD description, not 500 pages! Nic druxey and ClipperFan 1 1
rwiederrich Posted Monday at 01:59 PM Author #1052 Posted Monday at 01:59 PM 4 minutes ago, MrBlueJacket said: Just a note- the NRG photo competition wants a 500 WORD description, not 500 pages! Nic I read that...I was worrying. What did they want....my entire thought process for the build in every detail.... Rob Current build: Build log: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/25382-glory-of-the-seas-medium-clipper-1869-by-rwiederrich-196 Finished build: Build log: of 1/128th Great Republic: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13740-great-republic-by-rwiederrich-four-masted-extreme-clipper-1853/# Current build(On hold): Build log: 1/96 Donald McKay:http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/4522-donald-mckay-medium-clipper-by-rwiederrich-1855/ Completed build: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/gallery/album/475-196-cutty-sark-plastic/ The LORD said, "See, I have set (them) aside...with skills of all kinds, to make artistic designs for work in gold, silver, and bronze, to cut and set stones, to work in wood, and to engage in all kinds of crafts."
ClipperFan Posted Monday at 02:24 PM #1053 Posted Monday at 02:24 PM 22 minutes ago, rwiederrich said: I read that...I was worrying. What did they want....my entire thought process for the build in every detail.... Rob D'oh! I can't believe I made that dumb mistake. It's been corrected. The correct phrase is "up to but no more than 500 WORDS" definitely not pages....
ClipperFan Posted Monday at 04:00 PM #1054 Posted Monday at 04:00 PM 1 hour ago, ClipperFan said: D'oh! I can't believe I made that dumb mistake. It's been corrected. The correct phrase is "up to but no more than 500 WORDS" definitely not pages.... @rwiederrich @Luis Felipe @Vladimir_Wairoa to avoid any further confusion, I've attached pretty much all of the rules verbatim from the NRG website. As you can see, no one is expected to write any lengthy description of their work. The description CANNOT exceed 500 WORDS. A single line is acceptable, if that's all a person wants to write. In addition, all photos are submitted anonymously with no personal identification whatsoever. Essentially for 30 bucks per model, anyone can have their work evaluated by a 3 judge panel and afterwards be given personal critique.
ClipperFan Posted Monday at 04:11 PM #1055 Posted Monday at 04:11 PM 2 hours ago, MrBlueJacket said: Just a note- the NRG photo competition wants a 500 WORD description, not 500 pages! Nic @MrBlueJacket Thanks for catching my dumb mistake. I would be mortified if anyone would be discouraged from submitting their model due this ridiculously wrong post. FYI: I have since corrected the mistake.
ClipperFan Posted Monday at 05:24 PM #1056 Posted Monday at 05:24 PM 4 hours ago, rwiederrich said: I've read the full application and photo requirements. And at this time, I think I am not inclined to apply. To do the imaging right...I would have to remove both models from their cases...stage a proper photographic environment to take proper images. I will not have time to do all this in the allotted time frame. I have far too many other issues on the near and far horizon of this summer. I do, appreciate your interest and enthusiasm. I have already posted images on MSW's completed model page and, you have given me much exposure in the Journal publication. I seek no further recognition. Plus, Michael Mjelde's recognition is the greatest any could acquire. A true heart felt thanks...Rich. Rob Rob, I'll gladly do all preliminary submission work for you and then send it to you so all you have to do is pay online and submit application forms. I strongly feel like the strength of your beautiful model will overcome any inexactitudes of precise positions. I also feel this is bigger than just your model. This is a cumulation of over a decade of joint research, involving Michael Mjelde, his daughter Arina and an ultimate realization of intensive research begun 60 years ago by author Michael Mjelde. It's a way to finally display a real Donald McKay clipper in her true glory. Something you know we're both passionate about. In this case I firmly believe you shouldn't let the perfect be the enemy of the good ... 8 model photo positions (1) port midships abeam (2) starboard midships abeam (3) overall model from dead ahead (4) overall model dead astern (5) stern port quarter diagonal with deck (6) stern starboard qtr diagonal w deck (7) bow port quarter diagonal with deck (8) bow starboard qtr diagonal w deck 4 optional model photos (1) model with historic photo (2) starboard bow model with actual ship (3) port stern model with actual ship (4) Ariana, Michael and Rob with model Later on, I will share the same selections for your Great Republic J11 and tmj 2
rwiederrich Posted Monday at 06:36 PM Author #1057 Posted Monday at 06:36 PM I have faith in your powers of description. And I know you can put together a good presentation. Have at it Rich...if you think you can pull off the correct imagery. The rules say you MUST use the correct angles as described. Please keep me informed. I am very appreciative of your enthusiastic demeanor. I fully understand the Connection with Mike and the story it all tells. THAT might be the clencher. Rob Current build: Build log: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/25382-glory-of-the-seas-medium-clipper-1869-by-rwiederrich-196 Finished build: Build log: of 1/128th Great Republic: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13740-great-republic-by-rwiederrich-four-masted-extreme-clipper-1853/# Current build(On hold): Build log: 1/96 Donald McKay:http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/4522-donald-mckay-medium-clipper-by-rwiederrich-1855/ Completed build: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/gallery/album/475-196-cutty-sark-plastic/ The LORD said, "See, I have set (them) aside...with skills of all kinds, to make artistic designs for work in gold, silver, and bronze, to cut and set stones, to work in wood, and to engage in all kinds of crafts."
ClipperFan Posted Monday at 07:39 PM #1058 Posted Monday at 07:39 PM @rwiederrich since cropping is allowed, I took off some white space on your first optional Glory of the Seas comparison photo (which I personally consider one of your best). Here are my 8 selections for your Great Republic in the same order as the ones selected for Glory of the Seas. You can explain in a short note for each submission that since both models are permanently mounted that these are the best angles you havea available. I have 1 suggestion for an optional but haven't yet been able to select 3 other optional photos for this second model. J11 and tmj 2
rwiederrich Posted Monday at 07:54 PM Author #1059 Posted Monday at 07:54 PM You're doing a fine job, but I think they said they will not judge blurry images....I could be wrong. Rob Current build: Build log: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/25382-glory-of-the-seas-medium-clipper-1869-by-rwiederrich-196 Finished build: Build log: of 1/128th Great Republic: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13740-great-republic-by-rwiederrich-four-masted-extreme-clipper-1853/# Current build(On hold): Build log: 1/96 Donald McKay:http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/4522-donald-mckay-medium-clipper-by-rwiederrich-1855/ Completed build: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/gallery/album/475-196-cutty-sark-plastic/ The LORD said, "See, I have set (them) aside...with skills of all kinds, to make artistic designs for work in gold, silver, and bronze, to cut and set stones, to work in wood, and to engage in all kinds of crafts."
druxey Posted Monday at 08:29 PM #1060 Posted Monday at 08:29 PM Plain, uncluttered background and crisp focus are requirements for the competition. Do photographic justice to your work! If you are a lousy photographer, get a friend to take the pictures for you. Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv
ClipperFan Posted Monday at 08:51 PM #1061 Posted Monday at 08:51 PM 55 minutes ago, rwiederrich said: You're doing a fine job, but I think they said they will not judge blurry images....I could be wrong. Rob Rob, what blurry images are you referring to? I don't see anything blurry. Maybe a little dark but not out of focus.
ClipperFan Posted Monday at 08:56 PM #1062 Posted Monday at 08:56 PM 22 minutes ago, druxey said: Plain, uncluttered background and crisp focus are requirements for the competition. Do photographic justice to your work! If you are a lousy photographer, get a friend to take the pictures for you. @druxey the problem as I understand it is that both of these fine models are now installed in cases. It apparently would require tearing down glass cases to move these two large models to be re photographed. Rob said there's not enough time to get that done. So do we use existing images or just forgo the contest? I feel the uniqueness and strength of both models are worth a try.
rwiederrich Posted Tuesday at 10:24 PM Author #1063 Posted Tuesday at 10:24 PM Began cutting and imprinting the myriad of copper strips for the hull. using my clothes roller. Here is part of the process. Rob Jared and tmj 2 Current build: Build log: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/25382-glory-of-the-seas-medium-clipper-1869-by-rwiederrich-196 Finished build: Build log: of 1/128th Great Republic: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13740-great-republic-by-rwiederrich-four-masted-extreme-clipper-1853/# Current build(On hold): Build log: 1/96 Donald McKay:http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/4522-donald-mckay-medium-clipper-by-rwiederrich-1855/ Completed build: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/gallery/album/475-196-cutty-sark-plastic/ The LORD said, "See, I have set (them) aside...with skills of all kinds, to make artistic designs for work in gold, silver, and bronze, to cut and set stones, to work in wood, and to engage in all kinds of crafts."
rwiederrich Posted Wednesday at 01:16 AM Author #1064 Posted Wednesday at 01:16 AM Starting the process of coppering the hull. Rob druxey, Jared and tmj 3 Current build: Build log: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/25382-glory-of-the-seas-medium-clipper-1869-by-rwiederrich-196 Finished build: Build log: of 1/128th Great Republic: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13740-great-republic-by-rwiederrich-four-masted-extreme-clipper-1853/# Current build(On hold): Build log: 1/96 Donald McKay:http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/4522-donald-mckay-medium-clipper-by-rwiederrich-1855/ Completed build: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/gallery/album/475-196-cutty-sark-plastic/ The LORD said, "See, I have set (them) aside...with skills of all kinds, to make artistic designs for work in gold, silver, and bronze, to cut and set stones, to work in wood, and to engage in all kinds of crafts."
Jared Posted Wednesday at 01:18 AM #1065 Posted Wednesday at 01:18 AM Your method is a real time saver! Thanks for sharing.
rwiederrich Posted Wednesday at 03:27 AM Author #1066 Posted Wednesday at 03:27 AM 2 hours ago, Jared said: Your method is a real time saver! Thanks for sharing. Thanks Jared. I’ve used this system on three models now……and as is my way…..I can’t stand anything as tedious as laying 2000 individual plates. Plus it shouldn’t take me too long before Im spraying on the metallic sealer over the shiny copper. Rob Current build: Build log: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/25382-glory-of-the-seas-medium-clipper-1869-by-rwiederrich-196 Finished build: Build log: of 1/128th Great Republic: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13740-great-republic-by-rwiederrich-four-masted-extreme-clipper-1853/# Current build(On hold): Build log: 1/96 Donald McKay:http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/4522-donald-mckay-medium-clipper-by-rwiederrich-1855/ Completed build: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/gallery/album/475-196-cutty-sark-plastic/ The LORD said, "See, I have set (them) aside...with skills of all kinds, to make artistic designs for work in gold, silver, and bronze, to cut and set stones, to work in wood, and to engage in all kinds of crafts."
ClipperFan Posted Wednesday at 12:59 PM #1067 Posted Wednesday at 12:59 PM @rwiederrich your clever shortcut using a clothes roller to fabricate straps of pseudo yellow metal plates like @Jaredalready said is an enormous time saver.
rwiederrich Posted Wednesday at 01:48 PM Author #1068 Posted Wednesday at 01:48 PM 41 minutes ago, ClipperFan said: @rwiederrich your clever shortcut using a clothes roller to fabricate straps of pseudo yellow metal plates like @Jaredalready said is an enormous time saver. What I've found out and have sought the advice of oh so many other model builders, is that at this scale...it is more important to project the *Hint* of individual plates. Too often the over exaggerated nail prints or over lapping plates...leaves the model looking more like it needs repair and replacement then actually adding to the ships detail. Plus...it just goes way faster. Thanks everyone for the fine comments and kudos. It really has taken me years of thought, and experimentation to develop and finally perform this technique. Rob Current build: Build log: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/25382-glory-of-the-seas-medium-clipper-1869-by-rwiederrich-196 Finished build: Build log: of 1/128th Great Republic: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13740-great-republic-by-rwiederrich-four-masted-extreme-clipper-1853/# Current build(On hold): Build log: 1/96 Donald McKay:http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/4522-donald-mckay-medium-clipper-by-rwiederrich-1855/ Completed build: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/gallery/album/475-196-cutty-sark-plastic/ The LORD said, "See, I have set (them) aside...with skills of all kinds, to make artistic designs for work in gold, silver, and bronze, to cut and set stones, to work in wood, and to engage in all kinds of crafts."
Jared Posted Wednesday at 01:53 PM #1069 Posted Wednesday at 01:53 PM (edited) I agree. I did the overlapping of single plates method and aside from the many hours of work it leaves a unnatural-looking textured surface. Edited Wednesday at 01:59 PM by Jared
ClipperFan Posted Wednesday at 04:18 PM #1070 Posted Wednesday at 04:18 PM (edited) 2 hours ago, rwiederrich said: What I've found out and have sought the advice of oh so many other model builders, is that at this scale...it is more important to project the *Hint* of individual plates. Too often the over exaggerated nail prints or over lapping plates...leaves the model looking more like it needs repair and replacement then actually adding to the ships detail. Plus...it just goes way faster. Thanks everyone for the fine comments and kudos. It really has taken me years of thought, and experimentation to develop and finally perform this technique. Rob Rob, being able to mass produce metallic plates with implied rivets is just brilliant. You solve a problem of doing tedious work with less than optimal results. Maintaining an accurate sense of scale is a critical discipline which rewards with spectacular results when done right. Edited Wednesday at 04:19 PM by ClipperFan correction
rwiederrich Posted Wednesday at 06:02 PM Author #1071 Posted Wednesday at 06:02 PM 4 hours ago, Jared said: I agree. I did the overlapping of single plates method and aside from the many hours of work it leaves a unnatural-looking textured surface. Jared....In no way, was I referencing your coppering job. Overall, your model is wonderful and skillfully done. Rob Current build: Build log: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/25382-glory-of-the-seas-medium-clipper-1869-by-rwiederrich-196 Finished build: Build log: of 1/128th Great Republic: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13740-great-republic-by-rwiederrich-four-masted-extreme-clipper-1853/# Current build(On hold): Build log: 1/96 Donald McKay:http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/4522-donald-mckay-medium-clipper-by-rwiederrich-1855/ Completed build: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/gallery/album/475-196-cutty-sark-plastic/ The LORD said, "See, I have set (them) aside...with skills of all kinds, to make artistic designs for work in gold, silver, and bronze, to cut and set stones, to work in wood, and to engage in all kinds of crafts."
rwiederrich Posted Wednesday at 06:12 PM Author #1072 Posted Wednesday at 06:12 PM 1 hour ago, ClipperFan said: Rob, being able to mass produce metallic plates with implied rivets is just brilliant. You solve a problem of doing tedious work with less than optimal results. Maintaining an accurate sense of scale is a critical discipline which rewards with spectacular results when done right. I lose a bit of detail when I remove the copper from its backing...but enough is present to represent the plates. They emboss well and the addition of the drywall sand screen to add the nail imprints was a game changer. BANYAN and tmj 2 Current build: Build log: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/25382-glory-of-the-seas-medium-clipper-1869-by-rwiederrich-196 Finished build: Build log: of 1/128th Great Republic: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13740-great-republic-by-rwiederrich-four-masted-extreme-clipper-1853/# Current build(On hold): Build log: 1/96 Donald McKay:http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/4522-donald-mckay-medium-clipper-by-rwiederrich-1855/ Completed build: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/gallery/album/475-196-cutty-sark-plastic/ The LORD said, "See, I have set (them) aside...with skills of all kinds, to make artistic designs for work in gold, silver, and bronze, to cut and set stones, to work in wood, and to engage in all kinds of crafts."
Jared Posted Wednesday at 07:38 PM #1073 Posted Wednesday at 07:38 PM This was all my own view Rob. I think because of the thin copper layer on the copper tape I used, it creates a bump at the overlap, which I do not think looks right. I think the way you are doing it, at this scale, looks more realistic. I can't get over how fast your build is going. Looks great.
ClipperFan Posted Wednesday at 09:30 PM #1074 Posted Wednesday at 09:30 PM 3 hours ago, rwiederrich said: I lose a bit of detail when I remove the copper from its backing...but enough is present to represent the plates. They emboss well and the addition of the drywall sand screen to add the nail imprints was a game changer. Rob, at this scale it's the impression of scale rather than slavishly replicating every little detail that's more successful. As an artist, I love to look at paintings close up. I am constantly amazed at how images are created with simple brush strokes. In this case, less really is.... more. Jared and BANYAN 2
rwiederrich Posted yesterday at 01:30 AM Author #1075 Posted yesterday at 01:30 AM Nearly finished the first half of the starboard side. The next run will go to the waterline. Rob ccoyle, Jared and BANYAN 3 Current build: Build log: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/25382-glory-of-the-seas-medium-clipper-1869-by-rwiederrich-196 Finished build: Build log: of 1/128th Great Republic: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13740-great-republic-by-rwiederrich-four-masted-extreme-clipper-1853/# Current build(On hold): Build log: 1/96 Donald McKay:http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/4522-donald-mckay-medium-clipper-by-rwiederrich-1855/ Completed build: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/gallery/album/475-196-cutty-sark-plastic/ The LORD said, "See, I have set (them) aside...with skills of all kinds, to make artistic designs for work in gold, silver, and bronze, to cut and set stones, to work in wood, and to engage in all kinds of crafts."
Snug Harbor Johnny Posted 10 hours ago #1076 Posted 10 hours ago 'Been looking for an affordable (and still working) wringer ... and I now see how ordinary paper can look if lapped when glued. Yet I've found a very thin paper used in the Pyxis machines at our hospital (where I work per Diem as a Pharmacy Tech) ... that looks no more than .001" thick (I'll have to measure). It is extremely fine with no apparent fibers/texture, is dull on one side and semi-gloss on the other that is treated so that an impacter generates text without ink. I'll do a test with strips of this applied with glue (dull side down), and later scored at intervals with an X-Acto to create 'plates'. The top edge can be burnished slightly before gluing the next strip, and I don't think there will be any 'telltale' of the overlap. Then will come scoring of that next strip to make plates staggered with those below. When done, I think that a light spray painting of a Muntz metal color will work well on the glossy exposed surface. Completed builds: Khufu Solar Barge - 1:72 Woody Joe Current project(s): Gorch Fock restoration 1:100, Billing Wasa (bust) - 1:100 Billings, Great Harry (bust) 1:88 ex. Sergal 1:65
rwiederrich Posted 10 hours ago Author #1077 Posted 10 hours ago 45 minutes ago, Snug Harbor Johnny said: 'Been looking for an affordable (and still working) wringer ... and I now see how ordinary paper can look if lapped when glued. Yet I've found a very thin paper used in the Pyxis machines at our hospital (where I work per Diem as a Pharmacy Tech) ... that looks no more than .001" thick (I'll have to measure). It is extremely fine with no apparent fibers/texture, is dull on one side and semi-gloss on the other that is treated so that an impacter generates text without ink. I'll do a test with strips of this applied with glue (dull side down), and later scored at intervals with an X-Acto to create 'plates'. The top edge can be burnished slightly before gluing the next strip, and I don't think there will be any 'telltale' of the overlap. Then will come scoring of that next strip to make plates staggered with those below. When done, I think that a light spray painting of a Muntz metal color will work well on the glossy exposed surface. Copper plates are actually not necessary. You can use paper like you suggested....then paint them....again, as you describe. As is my own practice, I always paint over my shiny copper plates with Metalic paint...that ultimately resembles weathered muntz metal. Rob Current build: Build log: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/25382-glory-of-the-seas-medium-clipper-1869-by-rwiederrich-196 Finished build: Build log: of 1/128th Great Republic: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13740-great-republic-by-rwiederrich-four-masted-extreme-clipper-1853/# Current build(On hold): Build log: 1/96 Donald McKay:http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/4522-donald-mckay-medium-clipper-by-rwiederrich-1855/ Completed build: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/gallery/album/475-196-cutty-sark-plastic/ The LORD said, "See, I have set (them) aside...with skills of all kinds, to make artistic designs for work in gold, silver, and bronze, to cut and set stones, to work in wood, and to engage in all kinds of crafts."
rwiederrich Posted 2 hours ago Author #1078 Posted 2 hours ago Finished up the Starboard side. Rob BANYAN and Maxthebuilder 2 Current build: Build log: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/25382-glory-of-the-seas-medium-clipper-1869-by-rwiederrich-196 Finished build: Build log: of 1/128th Great Republic: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13740-great-republic-by-rwiederrich-four-masted-extreme-clipper-1853/# Current build(On hold): Build log: 1/96 Donald McKay:http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/4522-donald-mckay-medium-clipper-by-rwiederrich-1855/ Completed build: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/gallery/album/475-196-cutty-sark-plastic/ The LORD said, "See, I have set (them) aside...with skills of all kinds, to make artistic designs for work in gold, silver, and bronze, to cut and set stones, to work in wood, and to engage in all kinds of crafts."
rwiederrich Posted 2 hours ago Author #1079 Posted 2 hours ago Started the port side …..a then ran out of embossed strips. I’ll do them tomorrow. Rob Maxthebuilder 1 Current build: Build log: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/25382-glory-of-the-seas-medium-clipper-1869-by-rwiederrich-196 Finished build: Build log: of 1/128th Great Republic: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13740-great-republic-by-rwiederrich-four-masted-extreme-clipper-1853/# Current build(On hold): Build log: 1/96 Donald McKay:http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/4522-donald-mckay-medium-clipper-by-rwiederrich-1855/ Completed build: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/gallery/album/475-196-cutty-sark-plastic/ The LORD said, "See, I have set (them) aside...with skills of all kinds, to make artistic designs for work in gold, silver, and bronze, to cut and set stones, to work in wood, and to engage in all kinds of crafts."
rwiederrich Posted 50 minutes ago Author #1080 Posted 50 minutes ago I’ll make more embossed strips tomorrow and then finish the coppering. Projecting forward, it will have taken me roughly 8 hours to make …..and install the copper strips on the clipper Staghound. I think that is my best time ever. I’ll paint and seal them shortly there after. Rob Jared 1 Current build: Build log: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/25382-glory-of-the-seas-medium-clipper-1869-by-rwiederrich-196 Finished build: Build log: of 1/128th Great Republic: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13740-great-republic-by-rwiederrich-four-masted-extreme-clipper-1853/# Current build(On hold): Build log: 1/96 Donald McKay:http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/4522-donald-mckay-medium-clipper-by-rwiederrich-1855/ Completed build: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/gallery/album/475-196-cutty-sark-plastic/ The LORD said, "See, I have set (them) aside...with skills of all kinds, to make artistic designs for work in gold, silver, and bronze, to cut and set stones, to work in wood, and to engage in all kinds of crafts."
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