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Posted (edited)

I am excited to start with my next project, the planking tutorial. Prior to receiving the kit, I had the manual printed.

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I am impressed with the kit contents and how it was packaged.

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Next I mounted the build sheet, on a piece of 1/2 foam I had as a build board using some spray adhesive.

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I need to pick up some markers, and chart tape, but I am eager to get this project moving forward this week.

 

jim

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Posted

Looking forward to following along.  Good luck.  

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Posted
1 hour ago, RossR said:

Looking forward to following along.  Good luck.  

thank you 

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Posted

I think you are going to enjoy this build.

Kurt

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Posted

Good evening, 

 

After a challenging week, I was able to get some modeling done tonight.

 

First I labeled the parts so that I could remember what is what :)

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Next I then cut out the keel, keelsom, stern post, fore keelsom, stem, stemson, deadwood and the l-piece from the kit. 

 

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I then used some double sided tape to help dry fit the piecesIMG_2403.thumb.jpeg.02895f5f99657f1cfbf885a11eb129b9.jpeg

 

Next I focused on getting the stemson and stem lined up correctly with a nice joint.

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I then removed the char from the pieces, to work on the fit. I ended up making a couple sanding sticks after trying to use an old blade to scrap off the char. The results are as follows:

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Finally the fit for the stemson to the stem now looks like:

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I continued per the manual with the following items to get a nice fit. I realigned my keelsom to the its matching bulkhead location, and then worked on the fore keelsom to get it to fit. and match its bulkheads.

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The final result is IMG_2413.thumb.jpeg.a80a3846159bfd0f59662370ea51d9ea.jpeg

 

Finally today, I marked out the rabbets. I will let it sit overnight before I make some sawdust and cut them out.

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jim

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Posted (edited)

Good afternoon, 

 

I made some progress on my kit today,

 

First I added the rabbet

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Next, i cut out the 4th and 5th bulkhead so I can get a better visualization of the  the rabbet on the stem, and stemsom.

 

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I  was able to get some good contract with a sample 1/32 piece from my last project.

 

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Next I spent some more time deepening the rabbet, and getting the angle right. I also use an eraser to remove some of the pencil marks

 

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Hopefully you can see the transition to 90 here in the stem

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Finally I started the gluing process

 

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I did break the stem post as I had to move it and it was setting up faster than expected. I noticed my crafting room was 78 :(

 

I also found that the stem was lifting, so I used a couple or 3x2x1 blocks to hold it down.

 

Cheers

 

jim

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Posted

Update here is the better picture of the glued keel. you can see where the keelsom broke. 

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Posted

Good evening. Here is my next update.

 

Today, I extended the slots on the keelson.IMG_2452.thumb.jpeg.3369fc792b14895b452aefad475974b6.jpeg

 

Next I glued in the frames in two batches.

 

Batch 1 -> Frames E, C A, 1, 3

 

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Batch 2 -> Frames -> D, B, DF (O), 2, 4

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Next I added the fillers, and knocked off some of the char on the bulkheads.

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I then marked out the bearding line use frames G and H as guides. I then took a french curve to make the curve.

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Next, I shaped the bearding line by marking 1/32 and then blending in the curve.IMG_2459.thumb.jpeg.309b5099b27aeb1485cb7bc05625cde0.jpeg

 

Next i extended the rabbet along the keel until the the stern post. This rabbet is 90 degrees.

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I then glued in the deadwood, sternpost and L-shaped pieces

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Finally I glued in F and G frames. I initially had H glued in but I was a  little hasty and removed it before it set.

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I will let this firm up over night and continue on the next step tomorrow.

 

Cheers 

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  • 3 weeks later...
Posted

Good morning,

 

I know it has been a while since I last posted. Real life has gotten in the way. 

 

By November 1, I had completed the following:

 

I started with finishing adding the supports and the transom. Before adding it, I realized I glued the L-Piece onto the board incorrectly, so I had to pull out the isopropyl out and fix its positioning. I did use a square to line up the transom.

 

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For the next few days, I spent some time getting the top line correct. I used chart tape to help visualize the curve. From there I use a square to transfer the line to the bulwarks.

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If you notice, I had to add a shim on 5a and AF. This is because I deepened those connections. 

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Overall I am happy with the line. 

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Last week I broke down and purchased a Dremel.  Thus last night, I finally got back to the project, and I started with shaping the top line. I purposely did not go all the way to my marks, so that I would have some room if necessary after planking to get the curves correct. 

 

Here is the stern section. It will require some more sanding, as there is still a high spot.

 

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The bow also is looking not bad. 

 

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Here is a view of the sanded top line.

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Finally I started to fair the bulwarks from DF -> AF.

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The curve is starting to take shape and I am getting some good contact with the plank.

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Frame 4A is still not correct. I may need to add a filler to fix the line a bit.

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Also when I tested the fit along the top line i noticed I had a gap as frame 4 is causing a high spot.

 

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Overall the fairing is going well. I still need some more work on the bow half of the hull, but I decided to walk away last night as I do not want to rush things.

 

Though I did notice that my bow rabbet is a little shallow so I will deepen it too.

 

Cheers 

 

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Posted (edited)

Definitely take time fairing the stern end. Take a look at some of the nice examples to see what it should/could look like and really make sure you can lay planks smoothly. I probably spent 10-20x longer fairing the last inch of the hull than I did the rest of the hull (didn't help that I first did it without the transom and then realized I took too much off some of the frames and had to add wood back). In retrospect, I also had a bit of a discontinuity (elbow) in the bow end that I probably could have seen if I had more patiently dry tested some planks. After now 2 1/2 plankings (well, maybe the Dory only counts 1/4) I'm getting a better sense of what plankings should look like. 

Edited by palmerit
Posted
On 11/12/2024 at 2:29 PM, palmerit said:

Definitely take time fairing the stern end. Take a look at some of the nice examples to see what it should/could look like and really make sure you can lay planks smoothly. I probably spent 10-20x longer fairing the last inch of the hull than I did the rest of the hull (didn't help that I first did it without the transom and then realized I took too much off some of the frames and had to add wood back). In retrospect, I also had a bit of a discontinuity (elbow) in the bow end that I probably could have seen if I had more patiently dry tested some planks. After now 2 1/2 plankings (well, maybe the Dory only counts 1/4) I'm getting a better sense of what plankings should look like. 

 

@palmerit

 

I am starting to understand how planking and fairing should be done now. I am really loving my dremel with the wand attachment. I keep it at under 10k in speed and go slow. I am also using a 120 grit sandpaper so that is not that aggressive.

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Posted

Good evening. A minor update on the planking tutorial.

 

Today finished fairing the bow portion of the hull. I was able to get a nice curve on the hull.

 

Here is a photo just about the second strake.

 

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This is approximately the second strake.

 

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The garboard 

 

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Next, I started to tackle the top line in the stern.

 

You can see I have a low spot on frames E and D.

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I used thread to give me a nice line along the bulwarks.

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More sanding, and I am getting a little closer.

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The lower top line is starting to curve nicely a little high spot on A.IMG_2508.thumb.jpeg.b458e0e84679142280808260490ea53f.jpeg

 

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After some sanding with a long sanding block I was able smooth out that high spotIMG_2509.thumb.jpeg.fdc1e7188e45ba7b4048dcc757ac2974.jpeg

 

Here you can still see the low spots on E and D.

 

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I am pretty close here, I need to thin out G a bit more, and get a nice line. I started to address the the upper part of the top line to blend nicely into the transom.

 

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Have a good night.

 

Cheers

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Posted

Good evening a minor update for today.

 

I did some more fairing of the hull and i focused on the stern. The sample board is fitting nicely. 

 

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Tomorrow plan is to get the counter in and finish the fairing.  Hopefully I can get the planking bands identified 

 

jim

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Posted
On 10/14/2024 at 12:29 PM, kurtvd19 said:

I think you are going to enjoy this build.

Kurt

I am @kurtvd19.  This build is adding some clarity to how ships should be planked. 

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Posted (edited)

Good evening.  

 

Tonight I added the counter. I was a little aggressive with the sanding and I added a shim to get a solid connection.  Secondly i mapped out the wale and added a string line to get the bottom into a nice curve. 

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Have a good night. 

Edited by Jim M

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Posted

Good evening, I spent some time relining my wale line this afternoon.IMG_2517.thumb.jpeg.5492bf13c61d1c7acf728cbbd0404cf9.jpeg

 

I received some better chart tape yesterday, so I was able to map out the full wale, get the lines correct. 

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The calapiers helped in visualizing the wale, and where it needs to be. I ended up using some green marker to mark the final positions. 

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I also did some more fairing on the stern to make it a little more smoother. I suspect I may need some more when I get closer to the deck.

 

I then marked out the 14 inches at the stern for the garboard, and the 12 inches for frames D - 3. I also spent some time making tick sheets.

Here is the stern

 

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And here is frame B

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After I was happy I took a break to look at the garboard how it is going to lay down.

 

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I then marked out and cut out the first half of the garboard on a piece of scrap planking material. I definitely did not like this result. 

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I repeated the process and you can see that the scribing is larger than my fist attempt.IMG_2524.thumb.jpeg.00097063f730d87d2deba699bdc118dc.jpeg

 

I also cut the plank outside of the lines this time so that I can shape it a little better.

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After cutting it out, I it definitely was a little better in the fit category. I had to do some sanding.IMG_2526.thumb.jpeg.b53d82e4134fcc49ed5d492b64af99b6.jpeg

 

However, I am not fully satisfied with this plank; I did not cut the notch correctly, and the plank does not sit in the rabbit correctly.

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I decided to take a break tonight. However, I think I am going to redo this plank again.

 

Cheers 

 

Jim

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Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, Jim M said:

However, I am not fully satisfied with this plank; I did not cut the notch correctly, and the plank does not sit in the rabbit correctly.

I ended up redoing that first plank too - for the same reason. I ended up buying some more basswood sheets so that I could redo planks as often as I needed. I found that after redoing a few, I would have used all the basswood that came with the kit.

 

I always made by planks too large and then just sanded them down to shape them. Probably a hack. But when I tried to precisely mark out the shape and cut them they were always off, and if they're too small or there's a gap you need to start over. Making them wider and longer made it easier to iterate. I definitely used the ultimation slicer a lot.

 

One challenge I found is that you need to wet down to shape. But when wet, you can't sand or cut.

Edited by palmerit
Posted
10 hours ago, palmerit said:

I ended up redoing that first plank too - for the same reason. I ended up buying some more basswood sheets so that I could redo planks as often as I needed. I found that after redoing a few, I would have used all the basswood that came with the kit.

 

I always made by planks too large and then just sanded them down to shape them. Probably a hack. But when I tried to precisely mark out the shape and cut them they were always off, and if they're too small or there's a gap you need to start over. Making them wider and longer made it easier to iterate. I definitely used the ultimation slicer a lot.

 

One challenge I found is that you need to wet down to shape. But when wet, you can't sand or cut.

 

I found on the second plank having the ability to iterate over it was better. When I worked on the transition, I placed my scalpel in the wrong spot and it slipped.

 

How did you integrate the slicer on these custom planks? Just for the length?

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