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So there I was happily working away on my cutter speedy then I read Kevin’s @Kevin review of the revised AL kit of the HMS Supply. ( apparently it really should be called HMAT Supply ( HM Armed Tender )

Some of you may remember a while ago I was thinking of doing a scratch build using the plans that Allan Tyler @alpayed sent me. But now after scratching my way through ‘Speedy’ I quite fancied doing a kit this time.

 

When I searched online I was very excited to find the kit direct from AL for only £170 free PnP. It was only when it arrived in the UK and I got a text from UPS saying I needed to pay  them VAT and handling fees before they would deliver  it. So that was an extra £45.50 so it’s now only £10 cheaper than buying it in the UK, lesson learned. (Lets not mention Brexit)

 

Well it arrived and I opened the box I have to say that overall I was happy with most of the kit materials supplied.
The plywood was flat, the laser cutting looked good. Sails and rope are pretty poor quality, but now I can make my own ropes that’s okay.

I will not start the kit until I have finished Speedy.  But there is research I can do before I start.

With the Artesania Latina kit, the profile image supplied is at odds with the other reference I can find.
The Artesania Latina image shows it with a definite forward lean. see image below.

 

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Below is the drawing that Allan Tyler @alpayed has produced.

 

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Then there is the Karl Marquardt  article and plan set from my copy of Model Shipwright Magazine No. 95 March 1996.
KMstandingrigging.jpg.4689f1722574e5101a6a475311396db8.jpg 

Then this contemporary ( 1759 ) painting of a 'Snow' which I believe is a similar ship, shows the masts vertical. https://www.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/rmgc-object-12513

 

 painting1759ofsnow.jpg.4befcb4394876e7d4e703039c87d3505.jpg

 

 Here I have overlaid Allan’s drawing on the painting, as you can see it’s pretty close.

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So it looks like I will have to make some changes to how the masts fit.

 

Tim

Current Builds :

 

Cutter "Speedy" 1828 from Plans by Bill Shoulders at 148


Bounty Launch - Scratch build - FINISHED
85 ft. Harbour Tug. scratch built  from plans by Francis Smith. ( FINISHED but no build log for this )

HMS Lightning. kit bashed from Deans Marine HMS Kelly kit ( FINISHED ) yes at last....

Posted

Good luck

Its all part of Kev's journey, bit like going to the dark side, but with the lights on
 

All the best

Kevin :omg:


SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS.
KEEP IT REAL!

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On the build table

HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Kevin - Vanguard Models - 1:64 - Feb 2023

 

On hold

MHS Britannic by Kevin 

SD 14  - Marcle Models - 1/70 - March 2022 -  Bluebell - Flower Class - Revel - 1/72   

U552 German U Boat - Trumpeter -

1/48  Amerigo Vespucci     1/84 - Panart-   

HMS Enterprise  -CAF -  1/48     

Finished     

Belle Poule 1834 by Kevin - OcCre - 1/90 - French frigate - started June 2024 - - 

Hercules by Kevin - OcCre - 1/50 - Tugboat - Finished - May 2024

Nectan-Mountfleet-models-steam-trawler-1/32 - Completed June 2020

HMS Victory - Caldercraft/Jotika - 1/72 - Finished 

 Dorade renamed Dora by Kevin - Amati - 1/20 - Completed March 2021 

Stage Coach 1848 - Artesania Latina - 1/10 -Finished 

Lady Eleanor by Kevin - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1/64 - Fifie fishing boat

Posted
1 hour ago, Kevin said:

Good luck

Thanks, I think I will need it on this build, really not sure about the video only instructions - a bit like IKEA instructions with no words just pictures.

 

Tim

Current Builds :

 

Cutter "Speedy" 1828 from Plans by Bill Shoulders at 148


Bounty Launch - Scratch build - FINISHED
85 ft. Harbour Tug. scratch built  from plans by Francis Smith. ( FINISHED but no build log for this )

HMS Lightning. kit bashed from Deans Marine HMS Kelly kit ( FINISHED ) yes at last....

Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, oakheart said:

So there I was happily working away on my cutter speedy then I read Kevin’s @Kevin review of the revised AL kit of the HMS Supply.

And in one of those quirks, in 1938 HMS Bramble (Vigilant class 1822) (by then serving as a lightship) lets say an Aunt of Speedy was modified into a replica of HMAT Supply.  Wiki.

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Edited by iMustBeCrazy

Craig.

 

I do know, that I don't know, a whole lot more, than I do know.

 

Current Build: 1:16 Bounty Launch Scratch build.   1:16 Kitty -18 Foot Racing Sloop   1:50 Le Renard   HM Cutter Lapwing 1816  Lapwing Drawings

Completed....: 1:16 16' Cutter Scratch build.

Discussion....: Bounty Boats Facts

 

 

 

Posted
38 minutes ago, iMustBeCrazy said:

HMS Bramble

Ah yes, we have spoken of her before on your Lapwing log, I knew she had served as a lightship after her career as a tender to HMS Rattlesnake (1846 ) on a survey of the East coast of Australia. The book "The Rattlesnake" by Jordan Goodman is a good read.

She had a very long life.

TIm


 

 

 

Current Builds :

 

Cutter "Speedy" 1828 from Plans by Bill Shoulders at 148


Bounty Launch - Scratch build - FINISHED
85 ft. Harbour Tug. scratch built  from plans by Francis Smith. ( FINISHED but no build log for this )

HMS Lightning. kit bashed from Deans Marine HMS Kelly kit ( FINISHED ) yes at last....

Posted

The masts are indicated on the admiralty draught by ticks or crosses.

Here also is George Rapers watercolour of Supply. This is a very interesting painting. Note the boomkins on the stern. This painting is the best representation of HMAT Supply I know of.

I have a high resolution copy at home. I will post it here when I am able.

Regards Allan.Supply__Raper_George_extract_dwg.-4_orig.jpg.50306cc94e1c8eba34dd067dbb0404af.jpg

Models finished:  Too many to list.

Current build. Danmark (kit bash)

Posted
10 hours ago, alpayed said:

George Rapers watercolour of Supply

Hi Allan @alpayed. That is a very useful image, thanks for posting it.

Do we know when it was drawn?

Tim

Current Builds :

 

Cutter "Speedy" 1828 from Plans by Bill Shoulders at 148


Bounty Launch - Scratch build - FINISHED
85 ft. Harbour Tug. scratch built  from plans by Francis Smith. ( FINISHED but no build log for this )

HMS Lightning. kit bashed from Deans Marine HMS Kelly kit ( FINISHED ) yes at last....

Posted (edited)

1790 off Lord Howe Island.

Edited by alpayed
Additional details

Models finished:  Too many to list.

Current build. Danmark (kit bash)

Posted
On 11/25/2024 at 8:04 AM, alpayed said:

Here is the high res copy

Thanks Allan.

Current Builds :

 

Cutter "Speedy" 1828 from Plans by Bill Shoulders at 148


Bounty Launch - Scratch build - FINISHED
85 ft. Harbour Tug. scratch built  from plans by Francis Smith. ( FINISHED but no build log for this )

HMS Lightning. kit bashed from Deans Marine HMS Kelly kit ( FINISHED ) yes at last....

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