Help and suggestions needed

[Diver]

I have run into a problem with the planking on my AL Sanson tug.  The video instructions on this kit have you planking from the deck down, and the from the keel up.  As can be seen from the photos there is a problem where they meet.  All planks are flat on the frames and I thought my faring was good.  If I were to sand where these planks meet there will be no plank left.  Any suggestions greatly appreciated.

[Dziadeczek]

chuck passaro planking - YouTube

[Diver]

48 minutes ago, Dziadeczek said:

chuck passaro planking - YouTube

Thanks for that.  I have used Chucks planking fan and tick marks on the Syren Medway.  In hind sight, I would not have followed the AL instructions, I would have done it Chucks way.  I do not want to totally strip this planking, thinking of adding a filler and try to blend it all together.

[iMustBeCrazy]

The main problem is that you're trying to put a square plank in a curved hole.

On the plank, the top edge (X) is the same length as the lower edge (Y).

On the hull, the path taken by the top edge (X) is longer that that taken by the lower edge (D).

Something has to give so the lower edge of the plank bulges out from the hull trying to make a new path that is the length of the plank lower edge.

If you force the plank flat against the frames the plank will bulge out between frames so as to stay the same length.

 

This can be prevented by either cutting your planks to shape or by edge bending your pre-cut planks.

 

[Keith Black]

 If this was my problem I'd CA a piece of thin plywood (any type of thin wood) on the backside of the opening then cut the plank to fit. It may not be kosher but it fills the hole.   

[Dziadeczek]

I meant to say, you did not do the spiling process properly - your planks look rectangular all the way (the same width along their entire lengths), so sooner or later you run out of space for them on the hull and ended up with those triangular empty spaces...

Also, in order for your planks to fit at the bow and the stern, you have to either pre-shape them off the model (using for instance cardboard templates, or edge-bend them to follow the curve in those spaces.

Like this modeler did here (post # 26 in this link - check his video).

 

Edited Wednesday at 03:21 AM by Dziadeczek

[Chuck Seiler]

Is this going to be double planked ( second layer of thin planking over the first), a single planked painted or single planked stained?

[knightyo]

I've performed that method of planking on a number of ships. It feels fun and rebellious to plank in that manner.  Just sand the ends sharp to fit on each end, and use plenty of wood glue.  Once the hull is sanded, provided it's going to be painted, or have another run of planking over the top, it will be fine.  If you look at my Syren log, some of the photos show this type of planking method used.  The hull is then covered with copper, so no one knows that it was improperly planked.

 

Alan

Edited Wednesday at 08:42 AM by knightyo

[Diver]

6 hours ago, Chuck Seiler said:

Is this going to be double planked ( second layer of thin planking over the first), a single planked painted or single planked stained?

This kit is single planked.  I strongly believe that it should have been double planked.

[Diver]

9 hours ago, Dziadeczek said:

I meant to say, you did not do the spiling process properly - your planks look rectangular all the way (the same width along their entire lengths), so sooner or later you run out of space for them on the hull and ended up with those triangular empty spaces...

Also, in order for your planks to fit at the bow and the stern, you have to either pre-shape them off the model (using for instance cardboard templates, or edge-bend them to follow the curve in those spaces.

Like this modeler did here (post # 26 in this link - check his video).

 

I did not spile any of the planks on this hull.  I followed the AL instructions which in hind sight was a mistake.  They do not even mention to put a bevel on one side of the planks, which I did.  I would not have installed the deckhouse and gunwales and would have only temporary installed the deck.  Planking this hull has been a test of patience.