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Not at all Grant. I took it in a humorous vein and replied in a jocular fashion. I thought your comment was most apt. Cheers Dick 😁 -
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Mycenaean War Galley by Woodrat - 1:48 - Shell first Plank on Frame
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I am happy to remove the word "dead". The rest I leave to the moderator. This is an open forum and disagreement is allowed as long as it is polite so maybe dead wrong is a poor choice of words. Woodrat
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On the undecked starboard side the carlings are installed The carlings support the ledges which in turn support the deck planking This completes main deck framing. Now for deck furniture. Dick
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I am sorry Tartane but you are wrong on both counts. There is ample iconographic evidence from the Mediterranean middle ages for lateen sails since at least the seventh century CE and there were indeed observation baskets just as Steven has modelled them. The baskets were positioned aft of the masthead so as not to foul the yard when going about. Beg to differ. They certainly didnt have ratlines till much later. Cheers Dick the Woodrat
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I am really not happy with the octopus. There is no iconographic evidence for its use on galleys or any other ship, so it is gone. I have gone instead for a more austere look. I am happy with the figurehead. Prof Wachsmann has published his thesis that these figureheads reprsent birds' heads and that may be so in most cases but in the case of the Tragana ship the backward curved protuberances on the "beak" resemble no bird I know but would be consistent with a crocodile. Dick
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Ian. I dont know this block. Where did you come across it? I dont know of any archaeology to back its use in greek or roman craft? Happy to learn more. Dick
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I actually used rope rungs but either way would be OK. I did use wood rungs on my carrack. The lower ends of the ladder are attached to rings in the deck. Dick
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Just a couple of points about Jacob's ladders in latin ships. Make sure the ladder doesnt foul the yard or its tackle on going about. On my round ship I positioned the rope ladder (with rope rungs) side on to the mast. Anyone who has seen circus performers use a rope ladder knows that they clamber up the side of the ladder. This minimises "bellying out" of the ladder which would be worse if the ladder were climbed face on. Cheers Dick
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The main deck completed to the midline and the bowsprit step is temporarily installed Dick
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KOGGE van Tartane-schaal by tartane - FINISHED - 1:87 - reconstruction
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Roman Quadrireme Galley by Ian_Grant - 1/32 Scale - RADIO
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This is just another way to manage a tiller but this time from a distance. It is a rascona from the Po river in italy as depicted by Admiral Paris. Note how the tillerman is seated and effectively has a tiller parallel to the plane of the rudder. Maybe the people who used such tillers did not stand to use them? Cheers Dick
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Thanks, Steven and Thukydides. The occy is tentacles forward in attack mode so as to intimidate the villagers as the ship roars in. The croc adds to the menace. The mycenaeans were generally not all that nice. They were,after all, pirates. Dick
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I have never been happy with the figurehead which appeared cartoonish. So I have gone back the original potterry images and found this excellent image of the tragana ship The figurehead I couldnt recognise until I suddenly realised that it was in fact a stylised crocodile head with projecting teeth.. I also have done some nose art using an image of a minoan octopus which was much copied by the mycenaeans The octopus would be an appropriate animal for a ship of Poseidon So the latest figurhead is much more threatening. The crocodile would be familiar to mycenaeans who regularly traded with Egypt. Cheeers Dick
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Thanks, Mark.I believe the planking in a gun deck of a warship would be oak. As this was a merchantman, I would think elm or fir. The thickness of the central plankage was of the order of 90 - 100 mm and the outer planking 70 - 75 mm. Other members may be able to give much more detail on plankage. It is said that the old forests of europe never recovered from the stripping that occurred to make the war armadas of the 16th to 18th centuries. Cheers Dick
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The thick planking has been applied as far as the midline, Dick
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