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Blue Ensign got a reaction from glbarlow in HMS Harpy 1796 by Blue Ensign – FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale
Post 95
Main stay. (Part 2)
The lower end of the stays have hearts turned in.
I am using Syren Resin versions, (6mm) for the Main Stay and (5mm) for the Preventer.
The kit provided deadeyes for this purpose are easier to fit than hearts and lanyards, but were an old fashioned option by the time of Harpy.
4901a
It is easier to fit the Preventer stay and collar with the Main stay and Fore shrouds out of the way.
I had fitted the Preventer stay at this point but found I had fed it incorrectly through the mast top.
Annoying when you have spent time doing tiny seizing and fitting of lanyards, but I couldn’t let it stand.
4895a
4897a
4898a
Lashing of the Main stay I used Syren 0.45mm line.
For the collar 0.88 mm line served with 0.1mm line was used. The tricky part of the collar is forming the eye in one short leg.
Main Preventer stay
4904a
Stropping the Preventer stay heart.
4905a
4908a
0.3mm line used for the Lanyard.
4909a
4910a
I can now attend to the Fore Shrouds.
B.E.
27/06/2025
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Blue Ensign got a reaction from wvdhee in HMS Harpy 1796 by Blue Ensign – FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale
Post 95
Main stay. (Part 2)
The lower end of the stays have hearts turned in.
I am using Syren Resin versions, (6mm) for the Main Stay and (5mm) for the Preventer.
The kit provided deadeyes for this purpose are easier to fit than hearts and lanyards, but were an old fashioned option by the time of Harpy.
4901a
It is easier to fit the Preventer stay and collar with the Main stay and Fore shrouds out of the way.
I had fitted the Preventer stay at this point but found I had fed it incorrectly through the mast top.
Annoying when you have spent time doing tiny seizing and fitting of lanyards, but I couldn’t let it stand.
4895a
4897a
4898a
Lashing of the Main stay I used Syren 0.45mm line.
For the collar 0.88 mm line served with 0.1mm line was used. The tricky part of the collar is forming the eye in one short leg.
Main Preventer stay
4904a
Stropping the Preventer stay heart.
4905a
4908a
0.3mm line used for the Lanyard.
4909a
4910a
I can now attend to the Fore Shrouds.
B.E.
27/06/2025
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Blue Ensign got a reaction from SiriusVoyager in HMS Harpy 1796 by Blue Ensign – FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale
Post 95
Main stay. (Part 2)
The lower end of the stays have hearts turned in.
I am using Syren Resin versions, (6mm) for the Main Stay and (5mm) for the Preventer.
The kit provided deadeyes for this purpose are easier to fit than hearts and lanyards, but were an old fashioned option by the time of Harpy.
4901a
It is easier to fit the Preventer stay and collar with the Main stay and Fore shrouds out of the way.
I had fitted the Preventer stay at this point but found I had fed it incorrectly through the mast top.
Annoying when you have spent time doing tiny seizing and fitting of lanyards, but I couldn’t let it stand.
4895a
4897a
4898a
Lashing of the Main stay I used Syren 0.45mm line.
For the collar 0.88 mm line served with 0.1mm line was used. The tricky part of the collar is forming the eye in one short leg.
Main Preventer stay
4904a
Stropping the Preventer stay heart.
4905a
4908a
0.3mm line used for the Lanyard.
4909a
4910a
I can now attend to the Fore Shrouds.
B.E.
27/06/2025
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Blue Ensign got a reaction from hollowneck in HMS Harpy 1796 by Blue Ensign – FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale
Post 95
Main stay. (Part 2)
The lower end of the stays have hearts turned in.
I am using Syren Resin versions, (6mm) for the Main Stay and (5mm) for the Preventer.
The kit provided deadeyes for this purpose are easier to fit than hearts and lanyards, but were an old fashioned option by the time of Harpy.
4901a
It is easier to fit the Preventer stay and collar with the Main stay and Fore shrouds out of the way.
I had fitted the Preventer stay at this point but found I had fed it incorrectly through the mast top.
Annoying when you have spent time doing tiny seizing and fitting of lanyards, but I couldn’t let it stand.
4895a
4897a
4898a
Lashing of the Main stay I used Syren 0.45mm line.
For the collar 0.88 mm line served with 0.1mm line was used. The tricky part of the collar is forming the eye in one short leg.
Main Preventer stay
4904a
Stropping the Preventer stay heart.
4905a
4908a
0.3mm line used for the Lanyard.
4909a
4910a
I can now attend to the Fore Shrouds.
B.E.
27/06/2025
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Blue Ensign got a reaction from Pitan in HMS Harpy 1796 by Blue Ensign – FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale
Post 95
Main stay. (Part 2)
The lower end of the stays have hearts turned in.
I am using Syren Resin versions, (6mm) for the Main Stay and (5mm) for the Preventer.
The kit provided deadeyes for this purpose are easier to fit than hearts and lanyards, but were an old fashioned option by the time of Harpy.
4901a
It is easier to fit the Preventer stay and collar with the Main stay and Fore shrouds out of the way.
I had fitted the Preventer stay at this point but found I had fed it incorrectly through the mast top.
Annoying when you have spent time doing tiny seizing and fitting of lanyards, but I couldn’t let it stand.
4895a
4897a
4898a
Lashing of the Main stay I used Syren 0.45mm line.
For the collar 0.88 mm line served with 0.1mm line was used. The tricky part of the collar is forming the eye in one short leg.
Main Preventer stay
4904a
Stropping the Preventer stay heart.
4905a
4908a
0.3mm line used for the Lanyard.
4909a
4910a
I can now attend to the Fore Shrouds.
B.E.
27/06/2025
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Blue Ensign got a reaction from p.hoek in HMS Harpy 1796 by Blue Ensign – FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale
Post 95
Main stay. (Part 2)
The lower end of the stays have hearts turned in.
I am using Syren Resin versions, (6mm) for the Main Stay and (5mm) for the Preventer.
The kit provided deadeyes for this purpose are easier to fit than hearts and lanyards, but were an old fashioned option by the time of Harpy.
4901a
It is easier to fit the Preventer stay and collar with the Main stay and Fore shrouds out of the way.
I had fitted the Preventer stay at this point but found I had fed it incorrectly through the mast top.
Annoying when you have spent time doing tiny seizing and fitting of lanyards, but I couldn’t let it stand.
4895a
4897a
4898a
Lashing of the Main stay I used Syren 0.45mm line.
For the collar 0.88 mm line served with 0.1mm line was used. The tricky part of the collar is forming the eye in one short leg.
Main Preventer stay
4904a
Stropping the Preventer stay heart.
4905a
4908a
0.3mm line used for the Lanyard.
4909a
4910a
I can now attend to the Fore Shrouds.
B.E.
27/06/2025
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Blue Ensign got a reaction from davyboy in HMS Harpy 1796 by Blue Ensign – FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale
Post 95
Main stay. (Part 2)
The lower end of the stays have hearts turned in.
I am using Syren Resin versions, (6mm) for the Main Stay and (5mm) for the Preventer.
The kit provided deadeyes for this purpose are easier to fit than hearts and lanyards, but were an old fashioned option by the time of Harpy.
4901a
It is easier to fit the Preventer stay and collar with the Main stay and Fore shrouds out of the way.
I had fitted the Preventer stay at this point but found I had fed it incorrectly through the mast top.
Annoying when you have spent time doing tiny seizing and fitting of lanyards, but I couldn’t let it stand.
4895a
4897a
4898a
Lashing of the Main stay I used Syren 0.45mm line.
For the collar 0.88 mm line served with 0.1mm line was used. The tricky part of the collar is forming the eye in one short leg.
Main Preventer stay
4904a
Stropping the Preventer stay heart.
4905a
4908a
0.3mm line used for the Lanyard.
4909a
4910a
I can now attend to the Fore Shrouds.
B.E.
27/06/2025
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Blue Ensign got a reaction from Ronald-V in HMS Harpy 1796 by Blue Ensign – FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale
Post 95
Main stay. (Part 2)
The lower end of the stays have hearts turned in.
I am using Syren Resin versions, (6mm) for the Main Stay and (5mm) for the Preventer.
The kit provided deadeyes for this purpose are easier to fit than hearts and lanyards, but were an old fashioned option by the time of Harpy.
4901a
It is easier to fit the Preventer stay and collar with the Main stay and Fore shrouds out of the way.
I had fitted the Preventer stay at this point but found I had fed it incorrectly through the mast top.
Annoying when you have spent time doing tiny seizing and fitting of lanyards, but I couldn’t let it stand.
4895a
4897a
4898a
Lashing of the Main stay I used Syren 0.45mm line.
For the collar 0.88 mm line served with 0.1mm line was used. The tricky part of the collar is forming the eye in one short leg.
Main Preventer stay
4904a
Stropping the Preventer stay heart.
4905a
4908a
0.3mm line used for the Lanyard.
4909a
4910a
I can now attend to the Fore Shrouds.
B.E.
27/06/2025
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Blue Ensign got a reaction from rcweir in HMS Harpy 1796 by Blue Ensign – FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale
Post 95
Main stay. (Part 2)
The lower end of the stays have hearts turned in.
I am using Syren Resin versions, (6mm) for the Main Stay and (5mm) for the Preventer.
The kit provided deadeyes for this purpose are easier to fit than hearts and lanyards, but were an old fashioned option by the time of Harpy.
4901a
It is easier to fit the Preventer stay and collar with the Main stay and Fore shrouds out of the way.
I had fitted the Preventer stay at this point but found I had fed it incorrectly through the mast top.
Annoying when you have spent time doing tiny seizing and fitting of lanyards, but I couldn’t let it stand.
4895a
4897a
4898a
Lashing of the Main stay I used Syren 0.45mm line.
For the collar 0.88 mm line served with 0.1mm line was used. The tricky part of the collar is forming the eye in one short leg.
Main Preventer stay
4904a
Stropping the Preventer stay heart.
4905a
4908a
0.3mm line used for the Lanyard.
4909a
4910a
I can now attend to the Fore Shrouds.
B.E.
27/06/2025
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Blue Ensign reacted to SaltyScot in HMS Harpy 1796 by Blue Ensign – FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale
Reading your posts just makes me so aware of how much I don't know about all this It is fun to learn though, especially with fine builds like this.
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Blue Ensign got a reaction from hollowneck in HMS Harpy 1796 by Richard44 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 - FINISHED
Blue Ensign in his build log has gone into some detail about this. I will probably position the binnacle off to one side and slightly forward of the wheel.
I also left the chimney off the cabinet.
It made no sense where there is no space for a lamp.🤔
No lamp compartment, no smoke, and no requirement for a chimney.
I am looking at making two smaller single cabinets that will stand each side of the wheel.
B.E.
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Blue Ensign reacted to Richard44 in HMS Harpy 1796 by Richard44 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 - FINISHED
More deck fittings.
The two pumps were the first to be done. Parts for the pumps are shown below.
The body is hexagonal and made up of three pieces that need to be glued together. The manual says to use a length of dowel to keep the pieces correctly aligned, but also says don't glue these to the dowel, which is to be removed now and replaced later. After thinking about this and looking at the parts and the order in which they were to be assembled, I decided that gluing the three hexagonal pieces to the dowel at this stage was going to work just fine. The length of dowel required (it goes all the way down through the lower deck) was carefully checked first. The top to the body was glued in place and brass pins pushed into the provided holes, representing bolts that hold the body of the pump together. Three brass pieces were glued together with gel CA, with three brass pins providing alignment. The heads of the pins were ground off and the pins trimmed. This stanchion provides the pivot point for the handle, and a pin was pushed through it and the handle. A drop of gel CA was applied at each end of the pin to keep it in place, and it was later trimmed. The pump operating rod was loosely attached to the handle and it extends down into the pump body. As I had the dowel extending right to the top of the pump body, I had to drill a clearance hole to allow the rod to be insered. The pumps almost complete, and completed.
Next the capstan. Parts are shown below.
As with the pumps, some parts need to be assembled using a dowel to ensure alignment, with the manual saying do not glue the parts to the dowel. The capstan partly assembled.
And completed. A piece of black card was used to represent the iron reinforcing ring on top of the drum.
The wheel was next, nothing difficult to this. Parts are below and I forgot to take a photo of the assembled fitting.
Next the difficult fitting. Not difficult to build, but positioning it is tricky. The binnacle. The parts are below and the finished binnacle below that.
I glazed the opening through which the compass could be seen, with a piece of plastic. But where to put it. The manual has it jammed between the wheel and the skylight and facing forward, a position that means the helmsman cannot possibly see the compass.
Blue Ensign in his build log has gone into some detail about this. I will probably position the binnacle off to one side and slightly forward of the wheel.
Some photos of Harpy with most deck fittings now in place.
Cheers
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Blue Ensign got a reaction from SiriusVoyager in HMS Harpy 1796 by Blue Ensign – FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale
Post 94
Main stay. (Part 1)
The kit plans show a simplified form of the Main/Preventer stays.
A more authentic version includes serving of the stay collars including the eye splice through which the stay passes, and a more stylish mouse to replace the kit plastic version.
The kit indicates use of deadeyes for securing the stays but I have opted for hearts which were more common during this period.
I am using Steel’s tables for an 18-14 gun ship.
Mainstay - 10” - 1.26mm - 15” Heart (6mm) Main Preventer Stay - 7” - 0.88mm - 10” Heart (4mm)
The kit line dimensions are close to this using 1.3mm line for the Main stay, and 1mm line for the Preventer stay.
For the Mainstay I am using Syren 1.37mm line, and for the Preventer 0.88mm line. The lines are stretched under weights to remove the spring before fitting.
4880a
The position of the mouse needs to be tested on the model.
4881a
4884a
Here the un-dyed Preventer stay serving is apparent, and the ‘weave’ of the mouse shows through.
4889a
I have been thinking about the positioning of the stays.
The kit arrangement has the Main stay fixed by a collar to the Foremast, and the Preventer stay running above it and beyond it to a collar on the Bowsprit.
I have some doubts about this arrangement, generally Mainstays run beyond the foremast to the bow.
Steel says that The main Preventer stay is lashed to the Foremast and the Main stay to the Bowsprit chock.
Lees comments that the Preventer stay was usually carried above the stay but that on small ships was sometimes carried under it.
4888a
Full details of my preparing and fitting of the stays and the related Mouses is fully covered in my Pegasus log, so I won’t repeat it all here.
4883a
4890a
4885a
In the case of Harpy I have decided to run the Preventer stay below the Main stay, and reverse the locations of the lashings.
Onto the lower end stay fixings.
B.E.
25/06/2025
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Blue Ensign got a reaction from hollowneck in Syren Ship Model Company News, Updates and Info.....(part 2)
Well done Chuck, order placed. 👍
B.E.
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Blue Ensign got a reaction from p.hoek in HMS Harpy 1796 by Blue Ensign – FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale
Post 94
Main stay. (Part 1)
The kit plans show a simplified form of the Main/Preventer stays.
A more authentic version includes serving of the stay collars including the eye splice through which the stay passes, and a more stylish mouse to replace the kit plastic version.
The kit indicates use of deadeyes for securing the stays but I have opted for hearts which were more common during this period.
I am using Steel’s tables for an 18-14 gun ship.
Mainstay - 10” - 1.26mm - 15” Heart (6mm) Main Preventer Stay - 7” - 0.88mm - 10” Heart (4mm)
The kit line dimensions are close to this using 1.3mm line for the Main stay, and 1mm line for the Preventer stay.
For the Mainstay I am using Syren 1.37mm line, and for the Preventer 0.88mm line. The lines are stretched under weights to remove the spring before fitting.
4880a
The position of the mouse needs to be tested on the model.
4881a
4884a
Here the un-dyed Preventer stay serving is apparent, and the ‘weave’ of the mouse shows through.
4889a
I have been thinking about the positioning of the stays.
The kit arrangement has the Main stay fixed by a collar to the Foremast, and the Preventer stay running above it and beyond it to a collar on the Bowsprit.
I have some doubts about this arrangement, generally Mainstays run beyond the foremast to the bow.
Steel says that The main Preventer stay is lashed to the Foremast and the Main stay to the Bowsprit chock.
Lees comments that the Preventer stay was usually carried above the stay but that on small ships was sometimes carried under it.
4888a
Full details of my preparing and fitting of the stays and the related Mouses is fully covered in my Pegasus log, so I won’t repeat it all here.
4883a
4890a
4885a
In the case of Harpy I have decided to run the Preventer stay below the Main stay, and reverse the locations of the lashings.
Onto the lower end stay fixings.
B.E.
25/06/2025
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Blue Ensign got a reaction from Ronald-V in HMS Sphinx 1775 by Ronald-V - Vanguard Models - 1:64
The hull looks wonderful Ronald, beautiful work. The lower hull planking is very impressive.
B.E.
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Blue Ensign reacted to Ronald-V in HMS Sphinx 1775 by Ronald-V - Vanguard Models - 1:64
Update:
Finally all rails attached and also the top of the hull given a few layers of WOP. Now that the top and bottom are finally in the oil it looks like a nice whole.
Long awaited to put the top in the oil, so happy to reached this stage. Also filled all the holes that were in the rails, so that it looks nice and uniform.
Next job seems to be the rudder
I replaced the Chess tree patterns with my own, probably sanded the originals down a bit too much when removing the char. This made them a bit too narrow
This is how the Sphinx looks now:
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Blue Ensign got a reaction from rcweir in HMS Harpy 1796 by Blue Ensign – FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale
Post 94
Main stay. (Part 1)
The kit plans show a simplified form of the Main/Preventer stays.
A more authentic version includes serving of the stay collars including the eye splice through which the stay passes, and a more stylish mouse to replace the kit plastic version.
The kit indicates use of deadeyes for securing the stays but I have opted for hearts which were more common during this period.
I am using Steel’s tables for an 18-14 gun ship.
Mainstay - 10” - 1.26mm - 15” Heart (6mm) Main Preventer Stay - 7” - 0.88mm - 10” Heart (4mm)
The kit line dimensions are close to this using 1.3mm line for the Main stay, and 1mm line for the Preventer stay.
For the Mainstay I am using Syren 1.37mm line, and for the Preventer 0.88mm line. The lines are stretched under weights to remove the spring before fitting.
4880a
The position of the mouse needs to be tested on the model.
4881a
4884a
Here the un-dyed Preventer stay serving is apparent, and the ‘weave’ of the mouse shows through.
4889a
I have been thinking about the positioning of the stays.
The kit arrangement has the Main stay fixed by a collar to the Foremast, and the Preventer stay running above it and beyond it to a collar on the Bowsprit.
I have some doubts about this arrangement, generally Mainstays run beyond the foremast to the bow.
Steel says that The main Preventer stay is lashed to the Foremast and the Main stay to the Bowsprit chock.
Lees comments that the Preventer stay was usually carried above the stay but that on small ships was sometimes carried under it.
4888a
Full details of my preparing and fitting of the stays and the related Mouses is fully covered in my Pegasus log, so I won’t repeat it all here.
4883a
4890a
4885a
In the case of Harpy I have decided to run the Preventer stay below the Main stay, and reverse the locations of the lashings.
Onto the lower end stay fixings.
B.E.
25/06/2025
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Blue Ensign got a reaction from gjdale in HMS Harpy 1796 by Blue Ensign – FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale
Post 94
Main stay. (Part 1)
The kit plans show a simplified form of the Main/Preventer stays.
A more authentic version includes serving of the stay collars including the eye splice through which the stay passes, and a more stylish mouse to replace the kit plastic version.
The kit indicates use of deadeyes for securing the stays but I have opted for hearts which were more common during this period.
I am using Steel’s tables for an 18-14 gun ship.
Mainstay - 10” - 1.26mm - 15” Heart (6mm) Main Preventer Stay - 7” - 0.88mm - 10” Heart (4mm)
The kit line dimensions are close to this using 1.3mm line for the Main stay, and 1mm line for the Preventer stay.
For the Mainstay I am using Syren 1.37mm line, and for the Preventer 0.88mm line. The lines are stretched under weights to remove the spring before fitting.
4880a
The position of the mouse needs to be tested on the model.
4881a
4884a
Here the un-dyed Preventer stay serving is apparent, and the ‘weave’ of the mouse shows through.
4889a
I have been thinking about the positioning of the stays.
The kit arrangement has the Main stay fixed by a collar to the Foremast, and the Preventer stay running above it and beyond it to a collar on the Bowsprit.
I have some doubts about this arrangement, generally Mainstays run beyond the foremast to the bow.
Steel says that The main Preventer stay is lashed to the Foremast and the Main stay to the Bowsprit chock.
Lees comments that the Preventer stay was usually carried above the stay but that on small ships was sometimes carried under it.
4888a
Full details of my preparing and fitting of the stays and the related Mouses is fully covered in my Pegasus log, so I won’t repeat it all here.
4883a
4890a
4885a
In the case of Harpy I have decided to run the Preventer stay below the Main stay, and reverse the locations of the lashings.
Onto the lower end stay fixings.
B.E.
25/06/2025
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Blue Ensign got a reaction from SaltyScot in HMS Harpy 1796 by Blue Ensign – FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale
Post 94
Main stay. (Part 1)
The kit plans show a simplified form of the Main/Preventer stays.
A more authentic version includes serving of the stay collars including the eye splice through which the stay passes, and a more stylish mouse to replace the kit plastic version.
The kit indicates use of deadeyes for securing the stays but I have opted for hearts which were more common during this period.
I am using Steel’s tables for an 18-14 gun ship.
Mainstay - 10” - 1.26mm - 15” Heart (6mm) Main Preventer Stay - 7” - 0.88mm - 10” Heart (4mm)
The kit line dimensions are close to this using 1.3mm line for the Main stay, and 1mm line for the Preventer stay.
For the Mainstay I am using Syren 1.37mm line, and for the Preventer 0.88mm line. The lines are stretched under weights to remove the spring before fitting.
4880a
The position of the mouse needs to be tested on the model.
4881a
4884a
Here the un-dyed Preventer stay serving is apparent, and the ‘weave’ of the mouse shows through.
4889a
I have been thinking about the positioning of the stays.
The kit arrangement has the Main stay fixed by a collar to the Foremast, and the Preventer stay running above it and beyond it to a collar on the Bowsprit.
I have some doubts about this arrangement, generally Mainstays run beyond the foremast to the bow.
Steel says that The main Preventer stay is lashed to the Foremast and the Main stay to the Bowsprit chock.
Lees comments that the Preventer stay was usually carried above the stay but that on small ships was sometimes carried under it.
4888a
Full details of my preparing and fitting of the stays and the related Mouses is fully covered in my Pegasus log, so I won’t repeat it all here.
4883a
4890a
4885a
In the case of Harpy I have decided to run the Preventer stay below the Main stay, and reverse the locations of the lashings.
Onto the lower end stay fixings.
B.E.
25/06/2025
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Blue Ensign got a reaction from glbarlow in HMS Harpy 1796 by Blue Ensign – FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale
Post 94
Main stay. (Part 1)
The kit plans show a simplified form of the Main/Preventer stays.
A more authentic version includes serving of the stay collars including the eye splice through which the stay passes, and a more stylish mouse to replace the kit plastic version.
The kit indicates use of deadeyes for securing the stays but I have opted for hearts which were more common during this period.
I am using Steel’s tables for an 18-14 gun ship.
Mainstay - 10” - 1.26mm - 15” Heart (6mm) Main Preventer Stay - 7” - 0.88mm - 10” Heart (4mm)
The kit line dimensions are close to this using 1.3mm line for the Main stay, and 1mm line for the Preventer stay.
For the Mainstay I am using Syren 1.37mm line, and for the Preventer 0.88mm line. The lines are stretched under weights to remove the spring before fitting.
4880a
The position of the mouse needs to be tested on the model.
4881a
4884a
Here the un-dyed Preventer stay serving is apparent, and the ‘weave’ of the mouse shows through.
4889a
I have been thinking about the positioning of the stays.
The kit arrangement has the Main stay fixed by a collar to the Foremast, and the Preventer stay running above it and beyond it to a collar on the Bowsprit.
I have some doubts about this arrangement, generally Mainstays run beyond the foremast to the bow.
Steel says that The main Preventer stay is lashed to the Foremast and the Main stay to the Bowsprit chock.
Lees comments that the Preventer stay was usually carried above the stay but that on small ships was sometimes carried under it.
4888a
Full details of my preparing and fitting of the stays and the related Mouses is fully covered in my Pegasus log, so I won’t repeat it all here.
4883a
4890a
4885a
In the case of Harpy I have decided to run the Preventer stay below the Main stay, and reverse the locations of the lashings.
Onto the lower end stay fixings.
B.E.
25/06/2025
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Blue Ensign got a reaction from davyboy in HMS Harpy 1796 by Blue Ensign – FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale
Post 94
Main stay. (Part 1)
The kit plans show a simplified form of the Main/Preventer stays.
A more authentic version includes serving of the stay collars including the eye splice through which the stay passes, and a more stylish mouse to replace the kit plastic version.
The kit indicates use of deadeyes for securing the stays but I have opted for hearts which were more common during this period.
I am using Steel’s tables for an 18-14 gun ship.
Mainstay - 10” - 1.26mm - 15” Heart (6mm) Main Preventer Stay - 7” - 0.88mm - 10” Heart (4mm)
The kit line dimensions are close to this using 1.3mm line for the Main stay, and 1mm line for the Preventer stay.
For the Mainstay I am using Syren 1.37mm line, and for the Preventer 0.88mm line. The lines are stretched under weights to remove the spring before fitting.
4880a
The position of the mouse needs to be tested on the model.
4881a
4884a
Here the un-dyed Preventer stay serving is apparent, and the ‘weave’ of the mouse shows through.
4889a
I have been thinking about the positioning of the stays.
The kit arrangement has the Main stay fixed by a collar to the Foremast, and the Preventer stay running above it and beyond it to a collar on the Bowsprit.
I have some doubts about this arrangement, generally Mainstays run beyond the foremast to the bow.
Steel says that The main Preventer stay is lashed to the Foremast and the Main stay to the Bowsprit chock.
Lees comments that the Preventer stay was usually carried above the stay but that on small ships was sometimes carried under it.
4888a
Full details of my preparing and fitting of the stays and the related Mouses is fully covered in my Pegasus log, so I won’t repeat it all here.
4883a
4890a
4885a
In the case of Harpy I have decided to run the Preventer stay below the Main stay, and reverse the locations of the lashings.
Onto the lower end stay fixings.
B.E.
25/06/2025
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Blue Ensign got a reaction from CiscoH in HMS Harpy 1796 by Blue Ensign – FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale
Post 94
Main stay. (Part 1)
The kit plans show a simplified form of the Main/Preventer stays.
A more authentic version includes serving of the stay collars including the eye splice through which the stay passes, and a more stylish mouse to replace the kit plastic version.
The kit indicates use of deadeyes for securing the stays but I have opted for hearts which were more common during this period.
I am using Steel’s tables for an 18-14 gun ship.
Mainstay - 10” - 1.26mm - 15” Heart (6mm) Main Preventer Stay - 7” - 0.88mm - 10” Heart (4mm)
The kit line dimensions are close to this using 1.3mm line for the Main stay, and 1mm line for the Preventer stay.
For the Mainstay I am using Syren 1.37mm line, and for the Preventer 0.88mm line. The lines are stretched under weights to remove the spring before fitting.
4880a
The position of the mouse needs to be tested on the model.
4881a
4884a
Here the un-dyed Preventer stay serving is apparent, and the ‘weave’ of the mouse shows through.
4889a
I have been thinking about the positioning of the stays.
The kit arrangement has the Main stay fixed by a collar to the Foremast, and the Preventer stay running above it and beyond it to a collar on the Bowsprit.
I have some doubts about this arrangement, generally Mainstays run beyond the foremast to the bow.
Steel says that The main Preventer stay is lashed to the Foremast and the Main stay to the Bowsprit chock.
Lees comments that the Preventer stay was usually carried above the stay but that on small ships was sometimes carried under it.
4888a
Full details of my preparing and fitting of the stays and the related Mouses is fully covered in my Pegasus log, so I won’t repeat it all here.
4883a
4890a
4885a
In the case of Harpy I have decided to run the Preventer stay below the Main stay, and reverse the locations of the lashings.
Onto the lower end stay fixings.
B.E.
25/06/2025
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Blue Ensign got a reaction from realworkingsailor in HMS Harpy 1796 by Blue Ensign – FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale
Post 94
Main stay. (Part 1)
The kit plans show a simplified form of the Main/Preventer stays.
A more authentic version includes serving of the stay collars including the eye splice through which the stay passes, and a more stylish mouse to replace the kit plastic version.
The kit indicates use of deadeyes for securing the stays but I have opted for hearts which were more common during this period.
I am using Steel’s tables for an 18-14 gun ship.
Mainstay - 10” - 1.26mm - 15” Heart (6mm) Main Preventer Stay - 7” - 0.88mm - 10” Heart (4mm)
The kit line dimensions are close to this using 1.3mm line for the Main stay, and 1mm line for the Preventer stay.
For the Mainstay I am using Syren 1.37mm line, and for the Preventer 0.88mm line. The lines are stretched under weights to remove the spring before fitting.
4880a
The position of the mouse needs to be tested on the model.
4881a
4884a
Here the un-dyed Preventer stay serving is apparent, and the ‘weave’ of the mouse shows through.
4889a
I have been thinking about the positioning of the stays.
The kit arrangement has the Main stay fixed by a collar to the Foremast, and the Preventer stay running above it and beyond it to a collar on the Bowsprit.
I have some doubts about this arrangement, generally Mainstays run beyond the foremast to the bow.
Steel says that The main Preventer stay is lashed to the Foremast and the Main stay to the Bowsprit chock.
Lees comments that the Preventer stay was usually carried above the stay but that on small ships was sometimes carried under it.
4888a
Full details of my preparing and fitting of the stays and the related Mouses is fully covered in my Pegasus log, so I won’t repeat it all here.
4883a
4890a
4885a
In the case of Harpy I have decided to run the Preventer stay below the Main stay, and reverse the locations of the lashings.
Onto the lower end stay fixings.
B.E.
25/06/2025
-
Blue Ensign got a reaction from Rustyj in HMS Harpy 1796 by Blue Ensign – FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale
Post 94
Main stay. (Part 1)
The kit plans show a simplified form of the Main/Preventer stays.
A more authentic version includes serving of the stay collars including the eye splice through which the stay passes, and a more stylish mouse to replace the kit plastic version.
The kit indicates use of deadeyes for securing the stays but I have opted for hearts which were more common during this period.
I am using Steel’s tables for an 18-14 gun ship.
Mainstay - 10” - 1.26mm - 15” Heart (6mm) Main Preventer Stay - 7” - 0.88mm - 10” Heart (4mm)
The kit line dimensions are close to this using 1.3mm line for the Main stay, and 1mm line for the Preventer stay.
For the Mainstay I am using Syren 1.37mm line, and for the Preventer 0.88mm line. The lines are stretched under weights to remove the spring before fitting.
4880a
The position of the mouse needs to be tested on the model.
4881a
4884a
Here the un-dyed Preventer stay serving is apparent, and the ‘weave’ of the mouse shows through.
4889a
I have been thinking about the positioning of the stays.
The kit arrangement has the Main stay fixed by a collar to the Foremast, and the Preventer stay running above it and beyond it to a collar on the Bowsprit.
I have some doubts about this arrangement, generally Mainstays run beyond the foremast to the bow.
Steel says that The main Preventer stay is lashed to the Foremast and the Main stay to the Bowsprit chock.
Lees comments that the Preventer stay was usually carried above the stay but that on small ships was sometimes carried under it.
4888a
Full details of my preparing and fitting of the stays and the related Mouses is fully covered in my Pegasus log, so I won’t repeat it all here.
4883a
4890a
4885a
In the case of Harpy I have decided to run the Preventer stay below the Main stay, and reverse the locations of the lashings.
Onto the lower end stay fixings.
B.E.
25/06/2025