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I've checked the inventory, everything is there.Time to get started

I've decided to put the Phantom down for awhile the final deciding factor was that during my move I some how lost the wire that was supplied with the kit.So while I'm trying to find some wire to replace the original I'm going to start this kit. this will be my first attempt at planking, this seems like a good beginners kit. I've also purchased the 18th Century Long Boat and the English Pinnace for future builds. I think I'll stick to building boats for awhile and learn how to plank on them before I take on a model ship.

Some of the kit getting checked over..  length 790 mm, height 620, beam 160

Good day to all ...
 
Thanks Jean-Pierree, you're right, I first need to introduce all  to the project   , so you will know how it will be looking like ... Here  I post this pictures of the draft now, it is trajta, that's the way she looks like ... I post a few photos of the kit box, so you can see what is it looking like ... :
 
 
 

Good day to all ...
 
Thanks Jean-Pierree, you're right, I first need to introduce all  to the project   , so you will know how it will be looking like ... Here  I post this pictures of the draft now, it is trajta, that's the way she looks like ... I post a few photos of the kit box, so you can see what is it looking like ... :
 
 
 

Hi all ...
 
Thanasis, thanks to reply... this Trajta is leudo (fishing cargo)... this sort of Trajta was only on the Croatian island of Korcula and nowhere else ... there are present similarity names ... ( and maybe I'm wrong ? fact is that all of these fishermen sailed around and passed on the tradition ... ) ... In the end, you'll see how it looks... I'm interested in whether there are any similarities with the Greek trata ... Please follow this and let me know ...
 
Dgbot...How we made the reconstruction ? A few years ago I stumbled on an interesting old preserved text of a fishing net called Trajta ... among other things , there was a detailed description of the boat Trajta ( 11.7 m long on the deck ) ... I got interested in it ... I was contacted modelling experts in Croatia , they were presented to me the old script , something like a draft , so I had all the necessary things : ship lines and a detailed description of the vessel ... later I talked about this topic with a man (expert on on this topic) from Hvar ( Croatian island ) and I was quite sure I can do the reconstruction ... throughout the work process I contacted these people respecting their instructions ... Trajta have stopped to build in the 19th century, when it began to install the drive motors ...  She was built only on the island of Korcula and nowhere else ... a year ago I heard that a builder of small boats on the island of Korcula wants to build a prototype of Trajta so derive it from oblivion , I do not know in what stage of implementation of the plan is it ...
 
maggsl_01 ...... But, anyway, I finished the reconstruction of the model and designed a kit which is on sale since last year ... Now that I no longer have objections to the reconstruction, I am finishing the build log that will  be in the kit box in the future ...

Looks like an interesting subject.  MLay I make a little suggestion?  It would be fine, especially for the lesser known ship types/model kits, to start with some picture of the box art, so that we can have an idea of what your project will strive to?  Just a suggestion, and keep sending your pics.
 
Happy modelling.
 
JP

In order to work properly, ... it is important to create a workstand ... Only then the bulkheads can be placed on the keel and stem correctly ...

Now everything is sanded and polished ... now I need to plank the hull for a second time ... but first I need to finish some of the images on the draft ... here are the new photos :

Now everything is sanded and polished ... now I need to plank the hull for a second time ... but first I need to finish some of the images on the draft ... here are the new photos :

Now everything is sanded and polished ... now I need to plank the hull for a second time ... but first I need to finish some of the images on the draft ... here are the new photos :

I guess you're right, since as far I know, the "Greek Trata" (τράτα) was used only for fishing. But we're certainly  sharing the shape of the hull and the name modifications...
I'll be here...
Thx

Hi all ...
 
Thanasis, thanks to reply... this Trajta is leudo (fishing cargo)... this sort of Trajta was only on the Croatian island of Korcula and nowhere else ... there are present similarity names ... ( and maybe I'm wrong ? fact is that all of these fishermen sailed around and passed on the tradition ... ) ... In the end, you'll see how it looks... I'm interested in whether there are any similarities with the Greek trata ... Please follow this and let me know ...
 
Dgbot...How we made the reconstruction ? A few years ago I stumbled on an interesting old preserved text of a fishing net called Trajta ... among other things , there was a detailed description of the boat Trajta ( 11.7 m long on the deck ) ... I got interested in it ... I was contacted modelling experts in Croatia , they were presented to me the old script , something like a draft , so I had all the necessary things : ship lines and a detailed description of the vessel ... later I talked about this topic with a man (expert on on this topic) from Hvar ( Croatian island ) and I was quite sure I can do the reconstruction ... throughout the work process I contacted these people respecting their instructions ... Trajta have stopped to build in the 19th century, when it began to install the drive motors ...  She was built only on the island of Korcula and nowhere else ... a year ago I heard that a builder of small boats on the island of Korcula wants to build a prototype of Trajta so derive it from oblivion , I do not know in what stage of implementation of the plan is it ...
 
maggsl_01 ...... But, anyway, I finished the reconstruction of the model and designed a kit which is on sale since last year ... Now that I no longer have objections to the reconstruction, I am finishing the build log that will  be in the kit box in the future ...

Hi
 
very interesting build. Will this be another kit of your company? I will come by and watch although I am more intetested in "big" ships
 
Cheerio
 
Max

This should prove to be interesting.  What are you basing your build on?
David B

Hello MarisStella. Thank you for this interesting story of "Trajta".
Well, I didn't see it but among the other nations which are claiming the "trata" as their traditional vessel, you can list the Greece as well....
We call it as "Trata", and has been served by our fishermen in many sizes with or without sails. 
Unfortunately there isn't any provided kit, so the modelers here have to make it from scratch. 
I'll follow your built log with interesting..
Thx

hello everyone ... reading this topic , I felt a very strongly need to answer it... for a decade I am working out projects and kit designs ... Certainty, I can say that kits, as well as all other technical goods , obsolete ... The laser technology is rapidly progressing , and also as the programs ( softer ) in which projects are designed ... It is very important the way in which a particular kit is designed : some dedicated kits are made ​​for beginners ( easy to build ) , some of them are made for the experts ( not easy to build ) ... some of them are kits of simplified models , so do not look very realistic , others are highly detailed replicas of the originals ... Third in turn , produced to have an artistic flair ... And all of those kinds of kits can be , as in the practice is the case , offered by a single manufacturer ... With that I think nothing should be taken literally , each kit has its price and it is dedicated made ​​for a specific type of customer ... When I do my work, then I am primarily worried about the precision of the laser cut and design, and take care a lot that the elements can not move during bonding , there must be be enormous precision between the draft , laser cut and sample that  a kit builder creates ... Do always refer to the date of the start of production of each sort of kit , if trying to compare the quality of it ... this is my personal view ...

hello everyone, I would like to start something that has seen only a few men so far ... it is a historical reconstruction of the Croatian ship ... detailed description follows:
1:20
...Cargo is a wooden boat firmly rooted among the fishermen of the adriatic coast, widespread throughout the Mediterranean. On the east coast of the Adriatic Sea she' s known also under the names legut and levut, and then as leuto and liuto in Italy, laudus, laud Katalan in Spain, leudo Ligure on the Ligurian Sea, and even in the XIV century the boat lignetum was built in Dubrovnik. The name come from the italian word legno, which means wood. On the island of Korcula she' s called trata, trakta or trajta, and for her exist also the names barka, lađa, vlahinja, boat or gajeta. She' s the biggest adriatic boat, which reaches a lenght of up to 20 meters, whose capacity is up to 10 tons. The similarities in design and use with gajeta are such, that it is often difficult to distinguish them. In Croatia she' s first mentioned in the writings of Trogir 1617 and by now she has developed into a few basic shapes, among which the most distinctive are the cargos of Korcula, Betina and Zadar. The cargo bases her navigation more on sail than on oars, for this reason has a mast on which outstreched the lateen sail. Trajta is undoubtedly a cargo boat of Korculan construction, but she has also something of the gajeta' s structural characteristics. Her name comes from the name of the fishing nets, dragged by such boats. In fact this is a kind of seine net which in Korcula, Smokvica, Lumbarda and Pelješca are called trajta, meaning tow, drag. It comes directly from the latin word tracta, which is feminine passive past particple of the verb trahere (drag). In the same way is called the group of people which fishes with this type of net. Trajta, the fishing boat, is mentioned for the first time as trakta in 1734 on Mljetu and in 1742 in Ston. Trajta today, unfortunately, is no longer used. This is a model on which the keel and all the elements of the sides and deck are made of solid walnut wood. The sail is embroidered on the cloth. Structural elements are laser cut.
 

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hello everyone, I would like to start something that has seen only a few men so far ... it is a historical reconstruction of the Croatian ship ... detailed description follows:
1:20
...Cargo is a wooden boat firmly rooted among the fishermen of the adriatic coast, widespread throughout the Mediterranean. On the east coast of the Adriatic Sea she' s known also under the names legut and levut, and then as leuto and liuto in Italy, laudus, laud Katalan in Spain, leudo Ligure on the Ligurian Sea, and even in the XIV century the boat lignetum was built in Dubrovnik. The name come from the italian word legno, which means wood. On the island of Korcula she' s called trata, trakta or trajta, and for her exist also the names barka, lađa, vlahinja, boat or gajeta. She' s the biggest adriatic boat, which reaches a lenght of up to 20 meters, whose capacity is up to 10 tons. The similarities in design and use with gajeta are such, that it is often difficult to distinguish them. In Croatia she' s first mentioned in the writings of Trogir 1617 and by now she has developed into a few basic shapes, among which the most distinctive are the cargos of Korcula, Betina and Zadar. The cargo bases her navigation more on sail than on oars, for this reason has a mast on which outstreched the lateen sail. Trajta is undoubtedly a cargo boat of Korculan construction, but she has also something of the gajeta' s structural characteristics. Her name comes from the name of the fishing nets, dragged by such boats. In fact this is a kind of seine net which in Korcula, Smokvica, Lumbarda and Pelješca are called trajta, meaning tow, drag. It comes directly from the latin word tracta, which is feminine passive past particple of the verb trahere (drag). In the same way is called the group of people which fishes with this type of net. Trajta, the fishing boat, is mentioned for the first time as trakta in 1734 on Mljetu and in 1742 in Ston. Trajta today, unfortunately, is no longer used. This is a model on which the keel and all the elements of the sides and deck are made of solid walnut wood. The sail is embroidered on the cloth. Structural elements are laser cut.
 

G'day Pat,
Thanks for your good wishes and you're spot on with your thoughts about the kit but no-one else to be cross with except my-self for not checking properly.
 
I was able to get on with it and have removed the strakes now and I've posted a couple of photos of where I'm up to at the moment. I'm satisfied with the outcome of the removal process and now it's back to the model shop now to get some more timber.
 
Have a great weekend, Cheers,
 
Rowan D.
 

And another small step forward.
 
The hatch has been fitted. You can also see the alignment runners on its underside. These align the hatch cover on the rails.
 
Russ

Another small update. I have decided on how to handle the deadeyes and chainplates. I am not yet happy with the results, but I will try to improve on them as I go along. In my defense, I can only say that the deadeyes are 1/16" diameter and the chainplates are .005" thick. It is all very SMALL.
 
The cap for the assembly is only held in place with a strip of bamboo right now.
 
All of what you see will get painted white.
 
One deadeye still needs to be rotated a bit counter clockwise, but I will take care of that in due course.
 
Russ

hello everyone, I would like to start something that has seen only a few men so far ... it is a historical reconstruction of the Croatian ship ... detailed description follows:
1:20
...Cargo is a wooden boat firmly rooted among the fishermen of the adriatic coast, widespread throughout the Mediterranean. On the east coast of the Adriatic Sea she' s known also under the names legut and levut, and then as leuto and liuto in Italy, laudus, laud Katalan in Spain, leudo Ligure on the Ligurian Sea, and even in the XIV century the boat lignetum was built in Dubrovnik. The name come from the italian word legno, which means wood. On the island of Korcula she' s called trata, trakta or trajta, and for her exist also the names barka, lađa, vlahinja, boat or gajeta. She' s the biggest adriatic boat, which reaches a lenght of up to 20 meters, whose capacity is up to 10 tons. The similarities in design and use with gajeta are such, that it is often difficult to distinguish them. In Croatia she' s first mentioned in the writings of Trogir 1617 and by now she has developed into a few basic shapes, among which the most distinctive are the cargos of Korcula, Betina and Zadar. The cargo bases her navigation more on sail than on oars, for this reason has a mast on which outstreched the lateen sail. Trajta is undoubtedly a cargo boat of Korculan construction, but she has also something of the gajeta' s structural characteristics. Her name comes from the name of the fishing nets, dragged by such boats. In fact this is a kind of seine net which in Korcula, Smokvica, Lumbarda and Pelješca are called trajta, meaning tow, drag. It comes directly from the latin word tracta, which is feminine passive past particple of the verb trahere (drag). In the same way is called the group of people which fishes with this type of net. Trajta, the fishing boat, is mentioned for the first time as trakta in 1734 on Mljetu and in 1742 in Ston. Trajta today, unfortunately, is no longer used. This is a model on which the keel and all the elements of the sides and deck are made of solid walnut wood. The sail is embroidered on the cloth. Structural elements are laser cut.
 

Nigel, right... in the main we use walnut, rarely goes lime, mahogany and oak really rare, only occasional positions ...