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JSGerson got a reaction from Martin W in Rattlesnake by KenW - FINISHED - Model Shipways - Scale 1:64 - American Privateer
You did a beautiful job with the rails. Because my Rattlesnake was my first build, I did not know that the head of the rail was to be used for a line tie off. I would have added the "head piece" as well. I only learned this recently as I was rigging the bow.
I totally agree with your decision to install the bowsprit and gammoning at this point. Following Mr. Robert Hunt's practicum almost blindly because I didn't understand how things were interdependent, mine was installed at a latter point when it was much more difficult. May I suggest that you also get your figure head at least prepared and dry fitted if not installed, before the bowsprit installation just so there is no complications down the road.
Jonathan
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JSGerson got a reaction from dgbot in 18th Century Longboat by BobF - FINISHED - Model Shipways - 1:48 - Tri-Club
The discussion I saw was on the Amazing Photos Forum and in there Chuck did state that you could post a link to the site where the original photo exists.
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JSGerson got a reaction from mtaylor in 18th Century Longboat by BobF - FINISHED - Model Shipways - 1:48 - Tri-Club
The discussion I saw was on the Amazing Photos Forum and in there Chuck did state that you could post a link to the site where the original photo exists.
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JSGerson got a reaction from BobF in 18th Century Longboat by BobF - FINISHED - Model Shipways - 1:48 - Tri-Club
The discussion I saw was on the Amazing Photos Forum and in there Chuck did state that you could post a link to the site where the original photo exists.
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JSGerson got a reaction from Jack12477 in 18th Century Longboat by BobF - FINISHED - Model Shipways - 1:48 - Tri-Club
The discussion I saw was on the Amazing Photos Forum and in there Chuck did state that you could post a link to the site where the original photo exists.
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JSGerson got a reaction from Canute in 18th Century Longboat by BobF - FINISHED - Model Shipways - 1:48 - Tri-Club
The discussion I saw was on the Amazing Photos Forum and in there Chuck did state that you could post a link to the site where the original photo exists.
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JSGerson got a reaction from Blue Ensign in Rattlesnake by JSGerson - FINISHED - Mamoli - 1:64 - Using Robert Hunt’s practicum
That being said, here is the state of the model as she now stands.
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JSGerson got a reaction from Martin W in Rattlesnake by JSGerson - FINISHED - Mamoli - 1:64 - Using Robert Hunt’s practicum
Sport29652 - "close to finishing" what a nice phrase, I wonder what it means? At the rate I work, who knows how long it will take.
From the looks of their catalog images, the Micro-Mark and Proxxon milling machines do look very similar so I guess they would have the same abilities as well as faults. But getting one of these machines or something similar (Sherline) is all pipe dreams for now. I'll start to really get serious when I prepare to start the Constitution after I finish the Rattler in the next decade or two. 8-)
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JSGerson got a reaction from mtaylor in Rattlesnake by JSGerson - FINISHED - Mamoli - 1:64 - Using Robert Hunt’s practicum
The plan is to mill my own walnut stock for the yards which should be interesting since I have never milled wood before. Ok, what size do I cut the wood to? The Mamoli kit provides overall dimensions and so does the practicum. As near as I can tell, the MS plans do not give numerical dimensions. I guess you just have to do trial and error until the pieces match up with the plans. Hahn’s plans also provided numerical diameter dimensions along the length of the yards to give the yard its proper shape. And just like the old proverb, “A man with one watch knows what time it is, but a man with more than one watch does not,” I compared the yard dimensions of Hunt, Hahn, and Mamoli. You guessed it, nothing completely matched. Some of the dimensions varied as much as 3 mm. Because Hahn provides the interim diameter dimensions along the length of the yards and I followed his dimensions for the masts, I decided to continue using his figures. They appeared to create a finer yard than Mamoli’s and some of his dimensions did actually match with the practicum. The chunk of walnut could make all of the yards except for the main yard, it was too short. For that I would need to cut the board.
The Byrnes Saw made the mill work easy. Here is an image of the stock pieces I milled for the yards out of the furniture chunk. I had yet to tackle the big board. Now for the hard part, shaping and making the yards.
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JSGerson got a reaction from mtaylor in Rattlesnake by JSGerson - FINISHED - Mamoli - 1:64 - Using Robert Hunt’s practicum
The Yards
The time has finally come for the construction and installation of the yards. Continuing to read David Antschrel, he stated that “the yards are usually blackened.” I did not know this. I went back and looked at all of the pictures of ship models I had and lo and behold, most of them had black yards. It was too late to make the yards on my bowsprit black, but I did notice some of those models with black yards had light colored yards on their bowsprit. So I guess I’m alright.
Neither the Mamoli kit, nor the practicum addressed this. It may be buried somewhere in the MS plans but I did not bother to look. Since my model is colored for the most part through the use of different woods, I wanted my yards to be made of dark wood and not painted if I could help it. Neither my kit nor the supplemental wood that I purchased for the kit bashing way back at the beginning of the build had dark wood to make yards. But as it happens, I bought some additional wood from Jeff Hayes when he was closing down HobbyMills and in that package of wood, were 3 x ¼” x 12” walnut boards. I also had a hunka chunka of walnut that I purchase from a furniture repair shop a while back.
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JSGerson got a reaction from Martin W in Rattlesnake by JSGerson - FINISHED - Mamoli - 1:64 - Using Robert Hunt’s practicum
When I decided to build the Rattlesnake, I anticipated that I would need a lathe for the masts and yards, so I bought a small wood lathe before I started the kit. I should have waited. I had never used a lathe before and didn't know what I really needed. As it turned out, the small wood lathe (bought from Micro-Mark) was still too big for the delicate work that was required. The lathe has too much torque and can quickly twist and break the small diameter pieces of wood even starting at very slow speeds. My cutting tools leave a lot to be desired as well. Probably I will sell the lathe and get the Proxxon or something like it, but for now it's files and sandpaper. Sigh 8-{
Jon
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JSGerson got a reaction from Jack12477 in Rattlesnake by JSGerson - FINISHED - Mamoli - 1:64 - Using Robert Hunt’s practicum
When I decided to build the Rattlesnake, I anticipated that I would need a lathe for the masts and yards, so I bought a small wood lathe before I started the kit. I should have waited. I had never used a lathe before and didn't know what I really needed. As it turned out, the small wood lathe (bought from Micro-Mark) was still too big for the delicate work that was required. The lathe has too much torque and can quickly twist and break the small diameter pieces of wood even starting at very slow speeds. My cutting tools leave a lot to be desired as well. Probably I will sell the lathe and get the Proxxon or something like it, but for now it's files and sandpaper. Sigh 8-{
Jon
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JSGerson got a reaction from Martin W in Rattlesnake by JSGerson - FINISHED - Mamoli - 1:64 - Using Robert Hunt’s practicum
The plan is to mill my own walnut stock for the yards which should be interesting since I have never milled wood before. Ok, what size do I cut the wood to? The Mamoli kit provides overall dimensions and so does the practicum. As near as I can tell, the MS plans do not give numerical dimensions. I guess you just have to do trial and error until the pieces match up with the plans. Hahn’s plans also provided numerical diameter dimensions along the length of the yards to give the yard its proper shape. And just like the old proverb, “A man with one watch knows what time it is, but a man with more than one watch does not,” I compared the yard dimensions of Hunt, Hahn, and Mamoli. You guessed it, nothing completely matched. Some of the dimensions varied as much as 3 mm. Because Hahn provides the interim diameter dimensions along the length of the yards and I followed his dimensions for the masts, I decided to continue using his figures. They appeared to create a finer yard than Mamoli’s and some of his dimensions did actually match with the practicum. The chunk of walnut could make all of the yards except for the main yard, it was too short. For that I would need to cut the board.
The Byrnes Saw made the mill work easy. Here is an image of the stock pieces I milled for the yards out of the furniture chunk. I had yet to tackle the big board. Now for the hard part, shaping and making the yards.
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JSGerson got a reaction from Martin W in Rattlesnake by JSGerson - FINISHED - Mamoli - 1:64 - Using Robert Hunt’s practicum
The Yards
The time has finally come for the construction and installation of the yards. Continuing to read David Antschrel, he stated that “the yards are usually blackened.” I did not know this. I went back and looked at all of the pictures of ship models I had and lo and behold, most of them had black yards. It was too late to make the yards on my bowsprit black, but I did notice some of those models with black yards had light colored yards on their bowsprit. So I guess I’m alright.
Neither the Mamoli kit, nor the practicum addressed this. It may be buried somewhere in the MS plans but I did not bother to look. Since my model is colored for the most part through the use of different woods, I wanted my yards to be made of dark wood and not painted if I could help it. Neither my kit nor the supplemental wood that I purchased for the kit bashing way back at the beginning of the build had dark wood to make yards. But as it happens, I bought some additional wood from Jeff Hayes when he was closing down HobbyMills and in that package of wood, were 3 x ¼” x 12” walnut boards. I also had a hunka chunka of walnut that I purchase from a furniture repair shop a while back.
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JSGerson got a reaction from Geoff Matson in Rattlesnake by JSGerson - FINISHED - Mamoli - 1:64 - Using Robert Hunt’s practicum
The plan is to mill my own walnut stock for the yards which should be interesting since I have never milled wood before. Ok, what size do I cut the wood to? The Mamoli kit provides overall dimensions and so does the practicum. As near as I can tell, the MS plans do not give numerical dimensions. I guess you just have to do trial and error until the pieces match up with the plans. Hahn’s plans also provided numerical diameter dimensions along the length of the yards to give the yard its proper shape. And just like the old proverb, “A man with one watch knows what time it is, but a man with more than one watch does not,” I compared the yard dimensions of Hunt, Hahn, and Mamoli. You guessed it, nothing completely matched. Some of the dimensions varied as much as 3 mm. Because Hahn provides the interim diameter dimensions along the length of the yards and I followed his dimensions for the masts, I decided to continue using his figures. They appeared to create a finer yard than Mamoli’s and some of his dimensions did actually match with the practicum. The chunk of walnut could make all of the yards except for the main yard, it was too short. For that I would need to cut the board.
The Byrnes Saw made the mill work easy. Here is an image of the stock pieces I milled for the yards out of the furniture chunk. I had yet to tackle the big board. Now for the hard part, shaping and making the yards.
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JSGerson got a reaction from Geoff Matson in Rattlesnake by JSGerson - FINISHED - Mamoli - 1:64 - Using Robert Hunt’s practicum
The Yards
The time has finally come for the construction and installation of the yards. Continuing to read David Antschrel, he stated that “the yards are usually blackened.” I did not know this. I went back and looked at all of the pictures of ship models I had and lo and behold, most of them had black yards. It was too late to make the yards on my bowsprit black, but I did notice some of those models with black yards had light colored yards on their bowsprit. So I guess I’m alright.
Neither the Mamoli kit, nor the practicum addressed this. It may be buried somewhere in the MS plans but I did not bother to look. Since my model is colored for the most part through the use of different woods, I wanted my yards to be made of dark wood and not painted if I could help it. Neither my kit nor the supplemental wood that I purchased for the kit bashing way back at the beginning of the build had dark wood to make yards. But as it happens, I bought some additional wood from Jeff Hayes when he was closing down HobbyMills and in that package of wood, were 3 x ¼” x 12” walnut boards. I also had a hunka chunka of walnut that I purchase from a furniture repair shop a while back.
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JSGerson got a reaction from Blue Ensign in Rattlesnake by JSGerson - FINISHED - Mamoli - 1:64 - Using Robert Hunt’s practicum
The first thing that happened was the outhaul rigging on the spritsail topsail yard came apart just as I started to rig its blocks. The white glue did not hold and because the threads were all trimmed off, there wasn’t much left to hold on to. Trying to reattach the outhaul while the yard was on the model was a b*tch.
I then checked the blocks on the eyelets and they too fell apart when I applied a little tug– all that effort, poof. Screw it, I went back to CA glue which I know holds. I only use a very fine amount. Let’s see what else happened - a couple of eyelets pulled out of the hull and Spritsail yard (used too little glue), I got tangled up in the rigging near the tip of the jib boom and tied things together that should not have, learned to speak that would make a pirate blush (luckily I’m not married so was anyone around to offend and my cat didn’t understand me or maybe just didn’t care), and did I mentioned that I was involved in a fender bender (rear ended at a traffic light – no one hurt, just damage to my car).
But I finally got it done save for finalizing the haul line tie-offs.
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JSGerson got a reaction from usedtosail in Rattlesnake by JSGerson - FINISHED - Mamoli - 1:64 - Using Robert Hunt’s practicum
The plan is to mill my own walnut stock for the yards which should be interesting since I have never milled wood before. Ok, what size do I cut the wood to? The Mamoli kit provides overall dimensions and so does the practicum. As near as I can tell, the MS plans do not give numerical dimensions. I guess you just have to do trial and error until the pieces match up with the plans. Hahn’s plans also provided numerical diameter dimensions along the length of the yards to give the yard its proper shape. And just like the old proverb, “A man with one watch knows what time it is, but a man with more than one watch does not,” I compared the yard dimensions of Hunt, Hahn, and Mamoli. You guessed it, nothing completely matched. Some of the dimensions varied as much as 3 mm. Because Hahn provides the interim diameter dimensions along the length of the yards and I followed his dimensions for the masts, I decided to continue using his figures. They appeared to create a finer yard than Mamoli’s and some of his dimensions did actually match with the practicum. The chunk of walnut could make all of the yards except for the main yard, it was too short. For that I would need to cut the board.
The Byrnes Saw made the mill work easy. Here is an image of the stock pieces I milled for the yards out of the furniture chunk. I had yet to tackle the big board. Now for the hard part, shaping and making the yards.
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JSGerson got a reaction from GuntherMT in Rattlesnake by JSGerson - FINISHED - Mamoli - 1:64 - Using Robert Hunt’s practicum
Let me stop here for a moment and talk about glue. I had been using a very fine drop of CA glue on my knots but per a lot of build logs and builders of high respect, the recommendation was to use 1:1 diluted white glue because it didn’t stiffen or discolor the thread. So I started to use the diluted white glue.
I made and installed the rigging on the spritsail topsail yard, the blocks attached to eyelets that are to be attached to the hull for the spritsail topsail yard stays, as well as the tackle for the stays. Then the trouble began.
I was having difficulty working with the fine rope trying to tie the eyelets to the blocks so that the knots wouldn’t large and/or bulky. These too took multiple tries before I could complete them. OK, I completed all the parts and was ready to assemble the rigging.
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JSGerson got a reaction from GuntherMT in Rattlesnake by JSGerson - FINISHED - Mamoli - 1:64 - Using Robert Hunt’s practicum
Therefore the first thing to make was that rigging. The sling that held the yard to the jib boom used a finer rope and was smaller and more delicate than the one on the spritsail yard. I must have made at least three slings trying to make the loops small enough and yet still functional and most importantly the proper length. First I made it too long, then too short; the difference was only millimeters. It finally got hung.
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JSGerson got a reaction from KenW in Rattlesnake by JSGerson - FINISHED - Mamoli - 1:64 - Using Robert Hunt’s practicum
The plan is to mill my own walnut stock for the yards which should be interesting since I have never milled wood before. Ok, what size do I cut the wood to? The Mamoli kit provides overall dimensions and so does the practicum. As near as I can tell, the MS plans do not give numerical dimensions. I guess you just have to do trial and error until the pieces match up with the plans. Hahn’s plans also provided numerical diameter dimensions along the length of the yards to give the yard its proper shape. And just like the old proverb, “A man with one watch knows what time it is, but a man with more than one watch does not,” I compared the yard dimensions of Hunt, Hahn, and Mamoli. You guessed it, nothing completely matched. Some of the dimensions varied as much as 3 mm. Because Hahn provides the interim diameter dimensions along the length of the yards and I followed his dimensions for the masts, I decided to continue using his figures. They appeared to create a finer yard than Mamoli’s and some of his dimensions did actually match with the practicum. The chunk of walnut could make all of the yards except for the main yard, it was too short. For that I would need to cut the board.
The Byrnes Saw made the mill work easy. Here is an image of the stock pieces I milled for the yards out of the furniture chunk. I had yet to tackle the big board. Now for the hard part, shaping and making the yards.
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JSGerson got a reaction from CaptainSteve in Rattlesnake by JSGerson - FINISHED - Mamoli - 1:64 - Using Robert Hunt’s practicum
The plan is to mill my own walnut stock for the yards which should be interesting since I have never milled wood before. Ok, what size do I cut the wood to? The Mamoli kit provides overall dimensions and so does the practicum. As near as I can tell, the MS plans do not give numerical dimensions. I guess you just have to do trial and error until the pieces match up with the plans. Hahn’s plans also provided numerical diameter dimensions along the length of the yards to give the yard its proper shape. And just like the old proverb, “A man with one watch knows what time it is, but a man with more than one watch does not,” I compared the yard dimensions of Hunt, Hahn, and Mamoli. You guessed it, nothing completely matched. Some of the dimensions varied as much as 3 mm. Because Hahn provides the interim diameter dimensions along the length of the yards and I followed his dimensions for the masts, I decided to continue using his figures. They appeared to create a finer yard than Mamoli’s and some of his dimensions did actually match with the practicum. The chunk of walnut could make all of the yards except for the main yard, it was too short. For that I would need to cut the board.
The Byrnes Saw made the mill work easy. Here is an image of the stock pieces I milled for the yards out of the furniture chunk. I had yet to tackle the big board. Now for the hard part, shaping and making the yards.
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JSGerson got a reaction from GuntherMT in Rattlesnake by JSGerson - FINISHED - Mamoli - 1:64 - Using Robert Hunt’s practicum
The first thing that happened was the outhaul rigging on the spritsail topsail yard came apart just as I started to rig its blocks. The white glue did not hold and because the threads were all trimmed off, there wasn’t much left to hold on to. Trying to reattach the outhaul while the yard was on the model was a b*tch.
I then checked the blocks on the eyelets and they too fell apart when I applied a little tug– all that effort, poof. Screw it, I went back to CA glue which I know holds. I only use a very fine amount. Let’s see what else happened - a couple of eyelets pulled out of the hull and Spritsail yard (used too little glue), I got tangled up in the rigging near the tip of the jib boom and tied things together that should not have, learned to speak that would make a pirate blush (luckily I’m not married so was anyone around to offend and my cat didn’t understand me or maybe just didn’t care), and did I mentioned that I was involved in a fender bender (rear ended at a traffic light – no one hurt, just damage to my car).
But I finally got it done save for finalizing the haul line tie-offs.
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JSGerson got a reaction from GuntherMT in Rattlesnake by JSGerson - FINISHED - Mamoli - 1:64 - Using Robert Hunt’s practicum
That being said, here is the state of the model as she now stands.
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JSGerson got a reaction from Salty Sea Dog in Rattlesnake by JSGerson - FINISHED - Mamoli - 1:64 - Using Robert Hunt’s practicum
The first thing that happened was the outhaul rigging on the spritsail topsail yard came apart just as I started to rig its blocks. The white glue did not hold and because the threads were all trimmed off, there wasn’t much left to hold on to. Trying to reattach the outhaul while the yard was on the model was a b*tch.
I then checked the blocks on the eyelets and they too fell apart when I applied a little tug– all that effort, poof. Screw it, I went back to CA glue which I know holds. I only use a very fine amount. Let’s see what else happened - a couple of eyelets pulled out of the hull and Spritsail yard (used too little glue), I got tangled up in the rigging near the tip of the jib boom and tied things together that should not have, learned to speak that would make a pirate blush (luckily I’m not married so was anyone around to offend and my cat didn’t understand me or maybe just didn’t care), and did I mentioned that I was involved in a fender bender (rear ended at a traffic light – no one hurt, just damage to my car).
But I finally got it done save for finalizing the haul line tie-offs.
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