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Continuation.
 
 

 
 
 

 
 

 
 

 
 
 
 
The beginning of the relationship is available at this address:
 
 
http://5500.forumact...ndre-1-24#66516
 
Regards, Paul

Thank you all, I'm glad you like it.
That's what I wanted to achieve that scale model to be beautiful just like a ship.
According to your likes I think I'm close .. ;)
 
 
regards, Matija
 
 

... not to mention the ultimate resource; that being the photographic eye-candy which shows - in eye-popping detail - exactly how the Masters create their workmanship.
And it's now available (courtesy of MSW and the inter-ma-net thingy) to all !!
[Added Bonus: No translation required]

I think you have pretty much hit the nail on the head there Geoff There wasn't and still isn't any clubs for modelers specialising in wooden period ships in the UK.We have always been second class to RC models ( although I should point out I do that as well).There were only two builders known to many,Keith Julier and Chris Watton.Kit makers were never bothered about how the shortcomings of their product,most were never finished.
Things have changed so much since I started and they are changing even faster now.Everyone is willing to share there techniques and we all benefit.No matter whether it is modelmaking or something else,being able to bounce ideas off people is far more productive than solitary head scratching    
So my answer is no,I wouldn't have expected to have so many friends around the world to share ideas with,even more so,is probably about half I couldn't hold a conversation with,without the translator.
 
Kind Regards
 
Nigel

Thanks mate   Just for you,proof of nail existance           Wire is slightly larger than the hairs on my Jack Russell  
 
Kind Regards
 
Nigel

Thank you Nils I used the kit supplied bulkheads and built them into a solid mould.This was discarded after assembly,the boat is basically all scratch out of boxwood.I agree,it is surprising how strong the finished article is,especially as it weighs next to nothing.
 
Kind Regards
 
Nigel

Thank you Nigel,
 
agree with the "something satisfying"... remark on small ships, I think its probably that one Comes to results faster, turning in Hand, looking at different angles, and relativly quick adjustments possible.
I just looked back to your RC`s Launch, beautiful Little boat in slightly different technique, but also Overhead planking. Was that from a kit in 1:48 or so ?
 
Nils

As I mentioned earlier,these next few stages are really slow.I have fitted the deck beam shelves and planked the inside of the hull on the starboard side,including lining the gunports.The framework of the entry port is in place,but this will have the carvings added at a later date,probably when I fit the channels as they sit on the middle channel.I had to reverse engineer the gunports to ascertain the deck levels which involved a great deal of headscratching,but it did 'prove' my gunports were correct.The internal planking has had several coats of poly applied in preparation for treenailing.I am using Dafi's(thank you Dafi) idea for drilling the holes inside.I have glued a drill into the end of a bamboo skewer so I can poke it through the gunports to drill the holes on the opposite internal face.I have given it a try and it works great,but it ain't no Dremel so I may be at it some time
Kind Regards Nigel 

Thank you Richard I am glad you and others find my logs helpful,that is the main reason I post.I remember the days before the net and when Keith Julier's  books were in their infancy,you were very much on your own and it was a struggle.Now things are very different,everyone is free to share knowledge and it is fantastic.
 
Kind Regards
 
Nigel

Your build is coming on fabulously Nils I love your work on the gig,there is something satisfying about these small builds.I probably got more enjoyment building Caroline's launch,than I am doing from the rest of the build
 
Kind regards
 
Nigel

Thank you Richard I am glad you and others find my logs helpful,that is the main reason I post.I remember the days before the net and when Keith Julier's  books were in their infancy,you were very much on your own and it was a struggle.Now things are very different,everyone is free to share knowledge and it is fantastic.
 
Kind Regards
 
Nigel

Thank you Richard I am glad you and others find my logs helpful,that is the main reason I post.I remember the days before the net and when Keith Julier's  books were in their infancy,you were very much on your own and it was a struggle.Now things are very different,everyone is free to share knowledge and it is fantastic.
 
Kind Regards
 
Nigel

I have Finished one side of the hull.  I will pick away at it and complete the entire hull in a couple weeks at most.   :woo_hoo:

I have now started to copper the hull. You can see the rough pattern I have laid out that I will follow. There are about 400 tiles in that pile. Each cut from a 5/16" role of copper adhesive backed tape. There are 44 tiles in a row, about 12 rows. Allowing for shorter rows on the curved sections, there will be about 1200 tiles on the hull when it is done. I am not going to ponce roll the dimples as the 3/4" heads of the copper nails in real life would be so small in 1/72 scale as to be redundant. I have done more tiles since these photos, so, I have done about 300 tiles now. It takes about 10 minutes to lay a row. It will take longer per row as the curved sections need to be cut and laid carefully. I am going to give the copper a couple of coats of dull coat to seal the tape edges, something I did not do on my last model. This will keep the tile edges from curling up as I handle the model to move it about, which will be a lot.

This is my second scratch build.  The USS Pennsylvania being my first.  I thought I had started a build log on this site of this ship, but, I could not find one (it).  So here are SEVERAL photos of it's progress.  There are subtle differences in some of the photos as I changed things to accommodate future building.  Like where I removed a bow support because the bow sprit would pass right through it.  I took out the deck supports in the bulkheads because I decided I wanted to put the decks in individually.  It would be easier to work on the lower deck without all of the deck ribs in the way.  I did not cutout a door in the quarter galleries as the windows would have curtains on them and hide it anyway.  The original framing of the quarter galleries was removed and I redid them when the side hulls were planked.  It was more accurate and easier to put the windows and stern gun ports in.  In the unpainted stern gallery photos, planks cover some of the window openings.  In the primed photos you can see where I started the quarter gallery floor and ceiling.   The cannon are left over from my Pennsylvania build.  This model will have all of the cannon run out.  The Pennsylvania only had a few on each side.  The armament on the ships was almost identical.  Pennsylvania had 18 pounder long guns on the spar deck, the Columbus had 42 pound carronades.  The lower deck guns on both ships were mostly 32 pound long guns with 8 6 inch shell guns in the mix.  I do not know where the shell guns were mounted, but, I am not putting them on anyway.  Instead the lower deck gus will all be 32 pounders.

John,
 
My sympathies, but all is not lost. I find when something like this happens, it's good to leave the project for awhile, go off and do something else, give yourself a chance to take stock and gain a fresh perspective, and often a solution will present itself when everything originally looked hopeless.
 
I think Nigel's advice is very good. You have a lot of assets there that can be re-used - all those frames are still fine, and it looks to me that the keel is too. It takes more work, but I find the painful learning experiences stay with me longer than the easy ones. By the time you start your next build you'll have worked out how to avoid this problem and you'll be that far ahead of where you started out with this one.
 
This is a good build. Best of success with it, and keep your chin up.
 
Steven

The problem with following threads such as yours is I keep thinking "I have to try that."
Before I know it two or three weeks have gone by. 
 
But... I really do have to try it :-)
 
Thanks for the fine works and all the pictures and explanations.  Very helpful.
 
Richard

Thanks mate   Just for you,proof of nail existance           Wire is slightly larger than the hairs on my Jack Russell  
 
Kind Regards
 
Nigel

A very small update,but probably a major milestone achieved for me                  
The picture shows the forward grating section sized,however the rebates for the anchor ropes need cleaning up after installing all the fastenings.The eagle eyed(enlarging pic essential) will notice I have installed one line of the double nailing.I have found it necessary to install a pair at the same time due to the limit of how small a droplet of cyano I can apply.The holes are 0.3mm apart.I have decided to sand the radius profile to the top rather than risk damaging what amounts to about twenty hours work so far!!This will be done when the grating has been fitted with the combing.The nailing should become more visible then as there are cyano deposits on the surface at the moment.
 
Kind Regards
 
Nigel

Nigel and John, thanks for looking in after such a long break. Here are a couple of photographs of work I completed today. The starboard timberheads and knightheads. This area isn't complete yet though. I also got most of the starboard gundeck waterway shaped and put in place. I had to tear apart the stern framing I had installed up to this point as the more I compared it to pictures the more it didn't look right. Back to the drawing board on that area.

Good to hear your back 'at it' Patrick Sorry I can't help with your deck planking,Connie is far too 'new' for my area of knowledge
 
Kind Regards
 
Nigel

Okay, so the shipyward has reopened because it has cooled down considerably and I am now stuck inside during my free time. I will be posting an update later on tonight after I finish up with a couple of last pieces. Trust me it's not that big of an update. I'm writing this to hopefully trick some of our Constitution historians into divulging some information or thoughts on a deck planking plan. The instructions don't show a margin plank and in fact mention that nibbing is not needed on the decks. I find it odd though and wanted to see if anybody knew if this was the case early on for Constitution. I have studied Evan's decks on his model and I like the way it looks and history seems to support what he did with his interlocking planks. So, was there a margin plank and was the rest of the decking nibbed? Should I go with a three or four butt pattern? I'm still looking into online sources as I have exhausted what my books have.

reklein,
 
What you are saying IS so true. We lost power for about 1/2 an hour on our block this morning, my wife and I were besides ourselves, she could't dry her hair the garage door would not open, I had no internet, tried to read the morning paper without artificial light - OMG.  
 
This planet's human survival would under no circumstances survive today without electricity. The addiction is absolute...
 
PS: Thanks for dropping in much appreciated.
 
Michael

Looking good PG I too am feeling work getting in the way May I suggest 'tack' gluing some strips of scrap across the the tops of the frames.With the gaps between the frames,they are vulnerable to getting knocked.The strips can easily be removed later,but they will stiffen things up a lot in the meantime.
 
Kind Regards
 
Nigel

Thank you very much Juergen Yes,they are heavy I also have a ruler 20ft long divided into twelve that says 'inches' on it    
 
Kind Regards
 
Nigel