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Erik W reacted to Stuntflyer in Sloop Speedwell 1752 by Stuntflyer (Mike) - Ketch Rigged Sloop - POF
As you know, Chuck faired the hull with the top jigs in place. After supporting the hull with some planking, he was able to remove the jigs and add the fairing caps for both shape and support. Through hands on experience he knows that this approach will work out nicely. I wasn't so sure that it would work out the same for me. I was concerned that after removing the top timber jigs, I would find myself having to fair the hull a lot more. This would be quite difficult with the planking already on the hull. With that in mind, I decided to take a different approach.
I added a chock between each frame where they would be covered by planking. Adding the chocks meant that I could pull the laser cut top timber jigs (before doing any planking) while maintaining support for the frames. After adding the fairing caps, I could fair the hull more accurately at the shear. Generally this turned out to be true at least for me. There were some areas at the shear that needed more work, but an inch or so below the shear the fairing work was good. Yes, a few hours of extra work that turned out well in the end.
Notice that there is still enough room for the .025" cap rail to sit just below the top of the transom.
There was an enormous amount of work needed to fair these aft cants. It took me the better part of three days. Remember this is boxwood, not AYC. Anyway that's done now.😁
Mike
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Erik W got a reaction from scrubbyj427 in HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 by Erik W - 1:48 scale
I thought drawing in the tick marks and drawing the placement of the hook scarph joints wouldn't take too long. Well, after about 12 hours over the last week, I'm finally happy with the way everything looks on the deck, and I'm ready to proceed with the deck planking. Getting the drawn-in planking to look and flow the way I wanted it took so many adjustments and needed to be redone so many times I actually had to go out and buy more erasers! The last redo was actually after these photos were taken. I moved the rear of the aft scarph joints back a bit after viewing the photos, in order to have the taper of the outer 4 planks better match the inner 6 planks aft of the skylight. I also tweaked a couple of other areas after viewing these photos. Since I've never planked a deck before, my goal was to spend as much time as necessary to get the planking drawn in on the deck. Sort of the planking version of adding training wheels to a kids bike, or having bumpers in the gutters when kids bowl at a bowling alley. I'm trying to minimize my chances of screwing the deck planking up since it will be a very visible part of the build. The saying, proper planning prevents poor performance, comes to mind. One note when looking at the photos - since the plank lines were drawn in straight lines between the tick marks, it doesn't flow as smoothly visually as the actual curved planks will.
Erik
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Erik W got a reaction from scrubbyj427 in HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 by Erik W - 1:48 scale
Here's my latest progress. I have the five center deck planks installed. These were straight forward since they're not edge bent or tapered, but they took time none the less. As always, the process is going slow and test fitting, then sanding a bit, then test fitting, then sanding a bit, and repeating over and over again until a tight fit is achieved. I'm looking forward to planking the rest of the deck . . . but I'm also looking forward to having all the planking finished and behind me! I did a first sanding after getting these planks down. So if they look rough, that's why. I'll do the final sanding when the planking is finished.
Erik
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Erik W got a reaction from scrubbyj427 in HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 by Erik W - 1:48 scale
Thanks for all the 'likes" folks. I spent the last week building the companionway, so I'm now finished with the deck fittings that will be placed along the center line before planking the deck. For the companionway I used pencil to darken the board seams. I also slightly beveled the edges of where the companionway lid and doors are hinged. I applied several layers of much thinned red paint that allowed the board seams to show through. After painting was complete, I used a pin wash made of black oil paint thinned with Turpenoid that I applied to the hinged joints in the lid and doors, as well as around the bottom and side edges of the doors. Annnnnnd . . . . you can't really see any of all that effort in the photos. Super frustrating! I must've taken 30 photos of the finished companionway, with different background colors, and lighting and lighting angles, trying to show the board seams showing through the semi-opaque red paint. What you see is the best I could come up with. The funny thing is the board seams are so pronounced when viewing in person that I had seriously considered painting one more coat of red over the whole thing, particularly on the lid (which you don't see any seams at all in these photos). And I was worried the black wash was too pronounced. None of which you can see in the photos. Can you tell I'm still annoyed? Haha.
At any rate, the next step is gluing all these deck fitting on to the deck. Some other Cheerful build logs have good advice on getting these aligned correctly. After that, it's on to deck planking.
Erik
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Erik W got a reaction from Canute in HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 by Erik W - 1:48 scale
I thought drawing in the tick marks and drawing the placement of the hook scarph joints wouldn't take too long. Well, after about 12 hours over the last week, I'm finally happy with the way everything looks on the deck, and I'm ready to proceed with the deck planking. Getting the drawn-in planking to look and flow the way I wanted it took so many adjustments and needed to be redone so many times I actually had to go out and buy more erasers! The last redo was actually after these photos were taken. I moved the rear of the aft scarph joints back a bit after viewing the photos, in order to have the taper of the outer 4 planks better match the inner 6 planks aft of the skylight. I also tweaked a couple of other areas after viewing these photos. Since I've never planked a deck before, my goal was to spend as much time as necessary to get the planking drawn in on the deck. Sort of the planking version of adding training wheels to a kids bike, or having bumpers in the gutters when kids bowl at a bowling alley. I'm trying to minimize my chances of screwing the deck planking up since it will be a very visible part of the build. The saying, proper planning prevents poor performance, comes to mind. One note when looking at the photos - since the plank lines were drawn in straight lines between the tick marks, it doesn't flow as smoothly visually as the actual curved planks will.
Erik
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Erik W got a reaction from Canute in HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 by Erik W - 1:48 scale
Glenn,
Thanks for the feedback. I used photos of Chuck's deck as my main reference, so in person the deck has the same flowing curves as his. I located the separation between the two planking belts in the same places as he did, and the scarph joints are located in the same spots (using the deck fittings and gun ports as reference in where to locate). Also, I used Mike's (Stuntflyer) overhead photos for reference. The curve is understated in my photos compared to how it looks in person for some reason.
Also, the main reason I drew in all the planking was as a double check of my tick marks. I'm glad I did since by doing so I caught a couple of places I had misaligned them.
Erik
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Erik W got a reaction from oakheart in HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 by Erik W - 1:48 scale
Glenn,
Thanks for the feedback. I used photos of Chuck's deck as my main reference, so in person the deck has the same flowing curves as his. I located the separation between the two planking belts in the same places as he did, and the scarph joints are located in the same spots (using the deck fittings and gun ports as reference in where to locate). Also, I used Mike's (Stuntflyer) overhead photos for reference. The curve is understated in my photos compared to how it looks in person for some reason.
Also, the main reason I drew in all the planking was as a double check of my tick marks. I'm glad I did since by doing so I caught a couple of places I had misaligned them.
Erik
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Erik W got a reaction from Javelin in HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 by Erik W - 1:48 scale
I thought drawing in the tick marks and drawing the placement of the hook scarph joints wouldn't take too long. Well, after about 12 hours over the last week, I'm finally happy with the way everything looks on the deck, and I'm ready to proceed with the deck planking. Getting the drawn-in planking to look and flow the way I wanted it took so many adjustments and needed to be redone so many times I actually had to go out and buy more erasers! The last redo was actually after these photos were taken. I moved the rear of the aft scarph joints back a bit after viewing the photos, in order to have the taper of the outer 4 planks better match the inner 6 planks aft of the skylight. I also tweaked a couple of other areas after viewing these photos. Since I've never planked a deck before, my goal was to spend as much time as necessary to get the planking drawn in on the deck. Sort of the planking version of adding training wheels to a kids bike, or having bumpers in the gutters when kids bowl at a bowling alley. I'm trying to minimize my chances of screwing the deck planking up since it will be a very visible part of the build. The saying, proper planning prevents poor performance, comes to mind. One note when looking at the photos - since the plank lines were drawn in straight lines between the tick marks, it doesn't flow as smoothly visually as the actual curved planks will.
Erik
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Erik W got a reaction from egkb in HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 by Erik W - 1:48 scale
I thought drawing in the tick marks and drawing the placement of the hook scarph joints wouldn't take too long. Well, after about 12 hours over the last week, I'm finally happy with the way everything looks on the deck, and I'm ready to proceed with the deck planking. Getting the drawn-in planking to look and flow the way I wanted it took so many adjustments and needed to be redone so many times I actually had to go out and buy more erasers! The last redo was actually after these photos were taken. I moved the rear of the aft scarph joints back a bit after viewing the photos, in order to have the taper of the outer 4 planks better match the inner 6 planks aft of the skylight. I also tweaked a couple of other areas after viewing these photos. Since I've never planked a deck before, my goal was to spend as much time as necessary to get the planking drawn in on the deck. Sort of the planking version of adding training wheels to a kids bike, or having bumpers in the gutters when kids bowl at a bowling alley. I'm trying to minimize my chances of screwing the deck planking up since it will be a very visible part of the build. The saying, proper planning prevents poor performance, comes to mind. One note when looking at the photos - since the plank lines were drawn in straight lines between the tick marks, it doesn't flow as smoothly visually as the actual curved planks will.
Erik
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Erik W got a reaction from CiscoH in HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 by Erik W - 1:48 scale
Glenn,
Thanks for the feedback. I used photos of Chuck's deck as my main reference, so in person the deck has the same flowing curves as his. I located the separation between the two planking belts in the same places as he did, and the scarph joints are located in the same spots (using the deck fittings and gun ports as reference in where to locate). Also, I used Mike's (Stuntflyer) overhead photos for reference. The curve is understated in my photos compared to how it looks in person for some reason.
Also, the main reason I drew in all the planking was as a double check of my tick marks. I'm glad I did since by doing so I caught a couple of places I had misaligned them.
Erik
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Erik W got a reaction from JesseLee in HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 by Erik W - 1:48 scale
I thought drawing in the tick marks and drawing the placement of the hook scarph joints wouldn't take too long. Well, after about 12 hours over the last week, I'm finally happy with the way everything looks on the deck, and I'm ready to proceed with the deck planking. Getting the drawn-in planking to look and flow the way I wanted it took so many adjustments and needed to be redone so many times I actually had to go out and buy more erasers! The last redo was actually after these photos were taken. I moved the rear of the aft scarph joints back a bit after viewing the photos, in order to have the taper of the outer 4 planks better match the inner 6 planks aft of the skylight. I also tweaked a couple of other areas after viewing these photos. Since I've never planked a deck before, my goal was to spend as much time as necessary to get the planking drawn in on the deck. Sort of the planking version of adding training wheels to a kids bike, or having bumpers in the gutters when kids bowl at a bowling alley. I'm trying to minimize my chances of screwing the deck planking up since it will be a very visible part of the build. The saying, proper planning prevents poor performance, comes to mind. One note when looking at the photos - since the plank lines were drawn in straight lines between the tick marks, it doesn't flow as smoothly visually as the actual curved planks will.
Erik
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Erik W got a reaction from CiscoH in HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 by Erik W - 1:48 scale
I thought drawing in the tick marks and drawing the placement of the hook scarph joints wouldn't take too long. Well, after about 12 hours over the last week, I'm finally happy with the way everything looks on the deck, and I'm ready to proceed with the deck planking. Getting the drawn-in planking to look and flow the way I wanted it took so many adjustments and needed to be redone so many times I actually had to go out and buy more erasers! The last redo was actually after these photos were taken. I moved the rear of the aft scarph joints back a bit after viewing the photos, in order to have the taper of the outer 4 planks better match the inner 6 planks aft of the skylight. I also tweaked a couple of other areas after viewing these photos. Since I've never planked a deck before, my goal was to spend as much time as necessary to get the planking drawn in on the deck. Sort of the planking version of adding training wheels to a kids bike, or having bumpers in the gutters when kids bowl at a bowling alley. I'm trying to minimize my chances of screwing the deck planking up since it will be a very visible part of the build. The saying, proper planning prevents poor performance, comes to mind. One note when looking at the photos - since the plank lines were drawn in straight lines between the tick marks, it doesn't flow as smoothly visually as the actual curved planks will.
Erik
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Erik W got a reaction from Gregory in HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 by Erik W - 1:48 scale
I thought drawing in the tick marks and drawing the placement of the hook scarph joints wouldn't take too long. Well, after about 12 hours over the last week, I'm finally happy with the way everything looks on the deck, and I'm ready to proceed with the deck planking. Getting the drawn-in planking to look and flow the way I wanted it took so many adjustments and needed to be redone so many times I actually had to go out and buy more erasers! The last redo was actually after these photos were taken. I moved the rear of the aft scarph joints back a bit after viewing the photos, in order to have the taper of the outer 4 planks better match the inner 6 planks aft of the skylight. I also tweaked a couple of other areas after viewing these photos. Since I've never planked a deck before, my goal was to spend as much time as necessary to get the planking drawn in on the deck. Sort of the planking version of adding training wheels to a kids bike, or having bumpers in the gutters when kids bowl at a bowling alley. I'm trying to minimize my chances of screwing the deck planking up since it will be a very visible part of the build. The saying, proper planning prevents poor performance, comes to mind. One note when looking at the photos - since the plank lines were drawn in straight lines between the tick marks, it doesn't flow as smoothly visually as the actual curved planks will.
Erik
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Erik W got a reaction from Cathead in HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 by Erik W - 1:48 scale
Glenn,
Thanks for the feedback. I used photos of Chuck's deck as my main reference, so in person the deck has the same flowing curves as his. I located the separation between the two planking belts in the same places as he did, and the scarph joints are located in the same spots (using the deck fittings and gun ports as reference in where to locate). Also, I used Mike's (Stuntflyer) overhead photos for reference. The curve is understated in my photos compared to how it looks in person for some reason.
Also, the main reason I drew in all the planking was as a double check of my tick marks. I'm glad I did since by doing so I caught a couple of places I had misaligned them.
Erik
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Erik W got a reaction from Thukydides in HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 by Erik W - 1:48 scale
I thought drawing in the tick marks and drawing the placement of the hook scarph joints wouldn't take too long. Well, after about 12 hours over the last week, I'm finally happy with the way everything looks on the deck, and I'm ready to proceed with the deck planking. Getting the drawn-in planking to look and flow the way I wanted it took so many adjustments and needed to be redone so many times I actually had to go out and buy more erasers! The last redo was actually after these photos were taken. I moved the rear of the aft scarph joints back a bit after viewing the photos, in order to have the taper of the outer 4 planks better match the inner 6 planks aft of the skylight. I also tweaked a couple of other areas after viewing these photos. Since I've never planked a deck before, my goal was to spend as much time as necessary to get the planking drawn in on the deck. Sort of the planking version of adding training wheels to a kids bike, or having bumpers in the gutters when kids bowl at a bowling alley. I'm trying to minimize my chances of screwing the deck planking up since it will be a very visible part of the build. The saying, proper planning prevents poor performance, comes to mind. One note when looking at the photos - since the plank lines were drawn in straight lines between the tick marks, it doesn't flow as smoothly visually as the actual curved planks will.
Erik
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Erik W got a reaction from Cathead in HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 by Erik W - 1:48 scale
I thought drawing in the tick marks and drawing the placement of the hook scarph joints wouldn't take too long. Well, after about 12 hours over the last week, I'm finally happy with the way everything looks on the deck, and I'm ready to proceed with the deck planking. Getting the drawn-in planking to look and flow the way I wanted it took so many adjustments and needed to be redone so many times I actually had to go out and buy more erasers! The last redo was actually after these photos were taken. I moved the rear of the aft scarph joints back a bit after viewing the photos, in order to have the taper of the outer 4 planks better match the inner 6 planks aft of the skylight. I also tweaked a couple of other areas after viewing these photos. Since I've never planked a deck before, my goal was to spend as much time as necessary to get the planking drawn in on the deck. Sort of the planking version of adding training wheels to a kids bike, or having bumpers in the gutters when kids bowl at a bowling alley. I'm trying to minimize my chances of screwing the deck planking up since it will be a very visible part of the build. The saying, proper planning prevents poor performance, comes to mind. One note when looking at the photos - since the plank lines were drawn in straight lines between the tick marks, it doesn't flow as smoothly visually as the actual curved planks will.
Erik
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Erik W got a reaction from Seventynet in HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 by Erik W - 1:48 scale
I thought drawing in the tick marks and drawing the placement of the hook scarph joints wouldn't take too long. Well, after about 12 hours over the last week, I'm finally happy with the way everything looks on the deck, and I'm ready to proceed with the deck planking. Getting the drawn-in planking to look and flow the way I wanted it took so many adjustments and needed to be redone so many times I actually had to go out and buy more erasers! The last redo was actually after these photos were taken. I moved the rear of the aft scarph joints back a bit after viewing the photos, in order to have the taper of the outer 4 planks better match the inner 6 planks aft of the skylight. I also tweaked a couple of other areas after viewing these photos. Since I've never planked a deck before, my goal was to spend as much time as necessary to get the planking drawn in on the deck. Sort of the planking version of adding training wheels to a kids bike, or having bumpers in the gutters when kids bowl at a bowling alley. I'm trying to minimize my chances of screwing the deck planking up since it will be a very visible part of the build. The saying, proper planning prevents poor performance, comes to mind. One note when looking at the photos - since the plank lines were drawn in straight lines between the tick marks, it doesn't flow as smoothly visually as the actual curved planks will.
Erik
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Erik W reacted to glbarlow in HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 by Erik W - 1:48 scale
Not sure from the photos. The planking for Cheerful’s deck is unique in that there is a very visible curve, especially at the bow forward of midship the finished deck is a signature point of the model. If your pencil lines capture that then great.
Keep in mind a pencil line is thinner that the meeting point of cut wood. A marked line doesn’t completely reflect planking.
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Erik W got a reaction from GrandpaPhil in HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 by Erik W - 1:48 scale
I thought drawing in the tick marks and drawing the placement of the hook scarph joints wouldn't take too long. Well, after about 12 hours over the last week, I'm finally happy with the way everything looks on the deck, and I'm ready to proceed with the deck planking. Getting the drawn-in planking to look and flow the way I wanted it took so many adjustments and needed to be redone so many times I actually had to go out and buy more erasers! The last redo was actually after these photos were taken. I moved the rear of the aft scarph joints back a bit after viewing the photos, in order to have the taper of the outer 4 planks better match the inner 6 planks aft of the skylight. I also tweaked a couple of other areas after viewing these photos. Since I've never planked a deck before, my goal was to spend as much time as necessary to get the planking drawn in on the deck. Sort of the planking version of adding training wheels to a kids bike, or having bumpers in the gutters when kids bowl at a bowling alley. I'm trying to minimize my chances of screwing the deck planking up since it will be a very visible part of the build. The saying, proper planning prevents poor performance, comes to mind. One note when looking at the photos - since the plank lines were drawn in straight lines between the tick marks, it doesn't flow as smoothly visually as the actual curved planks will.
Erik
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Erik W got a reaction from tlevine in HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 by Erik W - 1:48 scale
I thought drawing in the tick marks and drawing the placement of the hook scarph joints wouldn't take too long. Well, after about 12 hours over the last week, I'm finally happy with the way everything looks on the deck, and I'm ready to proceed with the deck planking. Getting the drawn-in planking to look and flow the way I wanted it took so many adjustments and needed to be redone so many times I actually had to go out and buy more erasers! The last redo was actually after these photos were taken. I moved the rear of the aft scarph joints back a bit after viewing the photos, in order to have the taper of the outer 4 planks better match the inner 6 planks aft of the skylight. I also tweaked a couple of other areas after viewing these photos. Since I've never planked a deck before, my goal was to spend as much time as necessary to get the planking drawn in on the deck. Sort of the planking version of adding training wheels to a kids bike, or having bumpers in the gutters when kids bowl at a bowling alley. I'm trying to minimize my chances of screwing the deck planking up since it will be a very visible part of the build. The saying, proper planning prevents poor performance, comes to mind. One note when looking at the photos - since the plank lines were drawn in straight lines between the tick marks, it doesn't flow as smoothly visually as the actual curved planks will.
Erik
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Erik W got a reaction from Canute in HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 by Erik W - 1:48 scale
Here's my latest progress. I have the five center deck planks installed. These were straight forward since they're not edge bent or tapered, but they took time none the less. As always, the process is going slow and test fitting, then sanding a bit, then test fitting, then sanding a bit, and repeating over and over again until a tight fit is achieved. I'm looking forward to planking the rest of the deck . . . but I'm also looking forward to having all the planking finished and behind me! I did a first sanding after getting these planks down. So if they look rough, that's why. I'll do the final sanding when the planking is finished.
Erik
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Erik W got a reaction from oakheart in HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 by Erik W - 1:48 scale
Here's my latest progress. I have the five center deck planks installed. These were straight forward since they're not edge bent or tapered, but they took time none the less. As always, the process is going slow and test fitting, then sanding a bit, then test fitting, then sanding a bit, and repeating over and over again until a tight fit is achieved. I'm looking forward to planking the rest of the deck . . . but I'm also looking forward to having all the planking finished and behind me! I did a first sanding after getting these planks down. So if they look rough, that's why. I'll do the final sanding when the planking is finished.
Erik
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Erik W got a reaction from James G in HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 by Erik W - 1:48 scale
Here's my latest progress. I have the five center deck planks installed. These were straight forward since they're not edge bent or tapered, but they took time none the less. As always, the process is going slow and test fitting, then sanding a bit, then test fitting, then sanding a bit, and repeating over and over again until a tight fit is achieved. I'm looking forward to planking the rest of the deck . . . but I'm also looking forward to having all the planking finished and behind me! I did a first sanding after getting these planks down. So if they look rough, that's why. I'll do the final sanding when the planking is finished.
Erik
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Erik W got a reaction from JesseLee in HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 by Erik W - 1:48 scale
Here's my latest progress. I have the five center deck planks installed. These were straight forward since they're not edge bent or tapered, but they took time none the less. As always, the process is going slow and test fitting, then sanding a bit, then test fitting, then sanding a bit, and repeating over and over again until a tight fit is achieved. I'm looking forward to planking the rest of the deck . . . but I'm also looking forward to having all the planking finished and behind me! I did a first sanding after getting these planks down. So if they look rough, that's why. I'll do the final sanding when the planking is finished.
Erik