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Thanks Vlad and John! John, I think most of the pictures in that video are of @MikeR's scratch Flying Fish, but there does appear to be one at the end of the fish before I had crossed the yards. Regards, George
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I haven't had a chance to take good photos yet. It's been a busy work week, and I was hoping to take some nice ones today (it's a holiday for my company), but it's dim and rainy. I did get the case ready. This was a case my dad bought for the Revell Constitution, so another 1:96 ship, but for some reason he ordered one 36 inches tall. I have it now, because when they moved to an apartment, he kept the ship but not the case. Anyways, I cut 7 inches off the bars and took the glass to the local hardware store and got it cut down to 29 inches. He didn't use anything to hold the glass in, the bars have screws to hold them in place, but when I reassembled it, I used some silicone to attach the rear and side glass panes to the bars. I don't intend to do so to the front panel, I will slide it in place after the model is placed. The front panel (which is in the back in this picture) isn't in place yet, among other reasons, because it broke as I was taking it out of the car at the hardware store (sigh). That said, 4 of the 5 panels survived 18 months in my garage, and the recutting, which is probably close to miraculous. I may get a piece of plexiglass for the front panel (although, paradoxically it appears to cost more than glass). Then we need to figure out where it is going. Our ping pong table is not a good long term location. Regards, George
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Thanks Scott! FWIW, as I mentioned earlier in this log, I have a weak spot for old Revell sailing ships because my grandfather built the Cutty Sark and was working on the Constitution when he died. A restoration of one of his ships (which were, alas destroyed and/or lost over the intervening 55 years) would be great; I wish you the best in completing the restoration of the Thermopylae your mom built. Regards, George
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Thanks Rob! I followed your log on Glory and used many of your techniques, which was a great help. Regards, George
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Thanks! I'm watching your Gorch Fock restoration. I wish you the best on that project. Regards, George
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Thanks Eric! I like the time lapse too - when (if) I finish another I think I'm going to use it again as well. Regards, George
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Thanks Rob, I am following your build of Stefano. You are way braver than I doing those sails! Regards, George
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Thanks Jared, I continue to watch your build with interest. Took me a week to decide, but I'm going to do two that are likely going to move at very different velocities: BlueJacket USS Kearsarge RRS Discovery Since the former is a kit and the latter is scratch, I imagine I won't really be making sawdust on it for a while. I have the builders plans from the NMM in Greenwich and some items from Discovery point in Dundee and need to convert it into bulkheads that can be modeled. Regards, George
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Thanks Chris! Appreciate the vote of confidence!
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Thanks Steve. I appreciate the sentiment!
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Thanks Rick! I am following your Fish build as well, and looking forward to seeing it finished!
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gak1965 replied to David Enghauser's topic in Masting, rigging and sails
It's hard to say without a picture but those could be fairleads for other lines. They are definitely not for the 5 lines you mention (which I interpret to be the shrouds which go through the large "lubber's hole). If they are fairleads, they are there to provide clear paths for some of the running rigging, typically things like braces, sheets, and clews from the top and topgallants that need to get through below the top (the platform). You may have other fairleads mounted in the forecastle, or the shrouds themselves (either a strip of wood with holes or a set of "trucks", wooden disks with holes drilled in them) attached midway up the shroud. It's all there to keep the rigging from getting tangled. Regards, George -
Well, I still need to buy some transfer letters to make the name, but I've removed the Saran wrap covering the base and I'm calling this one FINISHED. 2 years, 355 days after starting. I don't have a lot of great photos (I'll take them during the day and in a better setting), but I've got a couple of the now completed ship. First, couple of snaps of the last steps. The preventers on the rudder: The forward bell: The lower, fore stuns'l boom mounts (I lost one of the ones shown and had to remake it), and the mounts+booms in place. The mount was made from sheet brass, the boom iron from copper venture tape painted black, and boom rest from 1/16 by 1/32 brass, with the lower support made from annealed steel wire. Finally, please take a journey with me, having a look at the ship at approximately 6 month intervals. NOVEMBER 2020: MAY 2021 (6 months) NOVEMBER 2021 (1 year) MAY 2022 (1.5 years) NOVEMBER 2022: (2 years) MAY 2023: (2.5 years) And finally, completed, November 4, 2023: (3 years) Thank you all for your suggestions, assistance, and for following along so that I didn't give up somewhere along the way. As I said, I'll post more, better pictures in a couple of days. Now I need to figure out what is going to be next. Regards, George
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No new photos today. But, completed: Portside davits, guy, and boat tackle Gilded balls on mast trucks: I used a couple of about 3 mm beads from my wife's stash, used a belaying pin to represent the top coming from ball, painted them gold and installed them. Preventer chains on the rudder. Somehow I missed them before. That leaves: Stuns'l booms on hull: 2 Forward bell: 1 Decals: 3 I'm starting to wonder if I dreamed the decals. There is a flag sheet in the parts list, but no decals. I will try to find some good transfer letters to make the name. My guess is that there are train ones that will work. If that's the case, all that's left are the booms and the bell. I'll go over the ship and see if I'm missing anything, but with any luck, I'll be done this weekend. Regards, George
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Honestly the casks look great as is. Don't know that I would bother doing anything to them Regards, George
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Okay, well, I have mounted the starboard side davits. Here is a photo: The photo isn't great, but here are the basics. Fore davit on a small platform I built at the planksheer. Aft between shrouds 3 and 4. I put the guy in, but simplified the rigging. The plans show a bolt at the after end, and a tackle, belayed to a pin on the main rail forwardl. I just ran it to a eyebolt on the main rail. I looked at rigging the boat tackles in an X pattern but didn't like the look, so they are rigged vertically, with the hooks attached to the lower channel or the platform directly beneath the davit. It doesn't look vertical (it's an artifact of the photo), but it is. The list: Stuns'l booms on hull: 2 Davits: 4 2 Boat tackle: 4 2 Guy wires on davits 2 1 Gilded balls on mast trucks: 3 Decals: 3 Total = 13 Regards, George
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Yeah, there are two things constraining the location of the forward davit - need to be aft of the freeing port and forward of the sheave for the main course brace. As depicted on both paintings, they seem different than the davits on something like the Cutty Sark, in that the guys would seem to limit their ability to rotate. In that case they would only be able to easily launch and recover the specific boats in the davit, more like modern lifeboat davits. How the heck they launched the boats stored on the cabin is a mystery to me. You'd need to manhandle them over to the davits first at a minimum, and if they can't rotate, getting the boat in place must have been challenging, but I could well be missing something. Regards. George
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Well, the yard mounted stuns'l booms are done. They are shown as per the plans, which is to say tied to various convenient halyards. Here are a couple of photos of the ship and the booms: In the first photo you can see the boat davits drying after being painted black. I ultimately drilled the hole for the aft davit between the 3rd and 4th shroud as in the Buttersworth painting rather than the plans (between shroud 1 and 2) or the China Trade painting (between the shrouds and backstays). They are drilled on both sides, ready to be mounted once the paint dries. The list: Stuns'l booms on yards: 12 Stuns'l booms on hull: 2 Davits: 4 Boat tackle: 4 Guy wires on davits 2 (maybe) Gilded balls on mast trucks: 3 Decals: 3 Total = 18 We will see if I ultimately put the guy wires on the davits. They would need to be run behind the shrouds and backstays and that area is really inaccessible right now. I'll probably try, but there is a limit to how much damage I'm willing to do at this late stage to add two lines. FWIW, for those that are working on the Fish, it might be worth installing these before the course and top braces so that you can access things a little easier. Anyway, the end does appear to be approaching. I'll probably do the davits, then the two hull stuns'l booms, and see if my wife has any beads of the right size to make the gilded balls for the mast trucks. The decals will be the last step. Not sure if I'm going to apply the name directly or whether I'll put it on a very thin piece of black painted wood. It needs to be discreet, there were no head or trailboards. I have a case that my father bought for the Revell USS Constitution* I made for my parents, but which he dispensed with when they moved into his current apartment. The case was way too tall for the Constitution, and it's too tall for the Fish at the same scale, so I'm going to cut the wooden corner elements shorter and have a glazier cut the glass down to appropriate size, but it's already available. Hopefully I will finish her by the end of this weekend, as November 14 will mark 3 years of work on this project. I'm really looking forward to closing this one out and working on something new. I appreciate everyone who has looked in and helped me along. Regards, George * PS: There is a bit of a story as to why I gave my parents a Revell USS Constitution. My maternal grandfather (who died in January 1969) built plastic models while he was living with us from 1967-1969. He built two Revell Cutty Sarks (and the Nichimo 1:200 Yamato, the notorious flat bottom Revell USS Midway, etc.) which were displayed in our house. Why two of them - I don't know; I assume he wanted to do better on the second try, although they both looked great to me. He was working on the Constitution when he died. I tried to pick it up when I was about 12 years old, but it was beyond my skills, had been sitting in the house for 8 years and was probably missing pieces, and I ultimately gave it up. In the interim, my brother, sister, and I had pretty much destroyed both of the Cutty Sarks playing with them. When I took up modeling again as an adult, I decided to build the Constitution that my grandfather never finished, and to give it to my parents to replace the ships we destroyed as kids. I think that they appreciated it, particularly my dad, as my maternal grandfather had been so kind to him after his own parents more or less disowned him for marrying my mother.
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Thanks Rick! I look at yours to see how I should have done it. I've been working on the stuns'l booms. The yard mounted ones are all shaped, stained, and 8 of them are mounted. I'll post some photos once they are all mounted and the ties are in place. In the interim, I was hoping someone might have some insight about the location of the of the davits. (I've started prepping them for installation) The China Trade painting and the Buttersworth painting both show black davits (so that is clear) and the forward davit mounted just aft of the mainmast channels but one shows the after davit mounted between the 3rd and 4th mizzen shroud (counting from the forward end) and the other shows it between the mizzen shrouds and the mizzen lower backstays. If anyone has any insight from other McKay clippers (or wherever) I would appreciate it. The practical answer would seem to be to put it between the shrouds, (a) because there seems to be more room there to drill a hole and the shrouds are a little more out of the way than the backstays (plus there is currently a block from one of the halyards there) and (b) because it would seem to separate the fore and aft davits much longer than the apparent length of the boats. I'm actually not going to mount the ships boats (they are off on business somewhere), mainly because the castings are so bad, so it won't matter in that sense, but I would prefer to do this properly. Any insights appreciated. Regards, George
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Lots of progress Jared; looking absolutely great!
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They do have good customer service. I needed more brass for my Fish
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Well, the Fish is rigged. I still have some things to do, but we are definitely on the home stretch. The list: Stuns'l booms on yards: 12 Stuns'l booms on hull: 2 Davits: 4 Boat tackle: 4 Gilded balls on mast trucks: 3 Decals: 3 Total = 28 As always thanks for looking in, George
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Well, we got back from vacation on Monday, a day late. Unfortunately, United downchecked the aircraft after we had boarded, so we waited for 5 hours before they cancelled the flight. Given that it was avionics, I don't know why they didn't just cancel it right away - we would have found something more interesting to do in Lisbon than just sit around the plane (at least they let us walk onto the gate area). Anyway, Portugal was very nice - we took a boat trip up the Duoro River from Porto, ate great and had lots of delightful wine and Port, so, can't really complain. One shot of the Duoro in Porto itself, taken from the Mosteiro da Serra do Pilar (which is technically in Vila Nova de Gaia (Porto is on the north side of the river) where all of the Port houses are. You can see some of the boats used to transport the wine - unfortunately I forgot to take a photo of a rabelo boat, the old school shipping sailboats. The bridge in the foreground is the Ponte Luiz I which was designed by a student of Gustav Eiffel, hence why the arch may remind you of some other structure.... So, back to the ship. Since I've been back I've been working on the braces. I have now completed all but the fore course and top, main course and top, and mizzen course, which is to say, I've been attaching main and mizzen braces. Here are some photos of the work to date: And here is the ship in its current state: I also wound up repairing a previously mounted brace that was interfering with the spanker. So, the reduced list: Spencer gaff: 2 Braces: 30 10 topping lifts: 2 Stun'sl booms on hull: 2 vangs: 4 2 Stun'sl booms on yards: 12 Spanker boom: 1 Davits: 4 sheets: 2 Boat tackle: 4 Topping lifts: 2 Decals: 3 Spanker gaff: 1 Gilded balls on mast trucks: 3 peak halyard: 1 Throat halyard: 1 vangs: 2 ensign halyard: 1 Change: 0 Additions -12 (12 braces) Net = -12 Remaining items: 45 Finally dropped below 50. Of course, the remaining 10 braces are the complicated ones, each probably worth 2 normal braces. But, I'm sticking to the 45 items number. I'm also probably going to start fabricating the stun'sl booms. The kit only provides 5/32 dowels for them, but I bought some 1/16 dowels and am going to try to make them scale appropriately to the yards. Main course: 3/32 Main top: 1/16 Main topgallant: 1/16 (not sure - going to see what it looks like, may sand it down) Fore course: 1/16 Fore top: 1/16 (not sure - going to see what it looks like, may sand down a bit) Fore topgallant: 3/64 (ish) - basically going to sand the 1/16 dowels Those 5/32 dowels are 9 inches at scale. Except for the main - that's way too big. I can try to lift the diameters by measuring the plans, but I'm probably just going to eyeball it. As always, thanks for looking in! Regards, George
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