Laurence_B

Hi Brian,
Good to hear that your Yacht Mary is progressing-despite the house move-I hope that went well.Look forward to seeing your latest pics.Reading through the thread I noticed that you'd like to see my version,so here is an image taken recently.

Hi Brian,
Good to hear that your Yacht Mary is progressing-despite the house move-I hope that went well.Look forward to seeing your latest pics.Reading through the thread I noticed that you'd like to see my version,so here is an image taken recently.

Hi Brian,
Good to hear that your Yacht Mary is progressing-despite the house move-I hope that went well.Look forward to seeing your latest pics.Reading through the thread I noticed that you'd like to see my version,so here is an image taken recently.

Hi Brian,
Good to hear that your Yacht Mary is progressing-despite the house move-I hope that went well.Look forward to seeing your latest pics.Reading through the thread I noticed that you'd like to see my version,so here is an image taken recently.

Whether this helps or not,but British royal yachts of the latter part of the 17th century,rather than furling or brailing the topsail,the sail and its top yard would be lowered to the deck;the lower yard was then left 'a'cockbilled'.Donald McNarry wrote about the subject in an edition of the Model Shipwright magazine.

Whether this helps or not,but British royal yachts of the latter part of the 17th century,rather than furling or brailing the topsail,the sail and its top yard would be lowered to the deck;the lower yard was then left 'a'cockbilled'.Donald McNarry wrote about the subject in an edition of the Model Shipwright magazine.

Whether this helps or not,but British royal yachts of the latter part of the 17th century,rather than furling or brailing the topsail,the sail and its top yard would be lowered to the deck;the lower yard was then left 'a'cockbilled'.Donald McNarry wrote about the subject in an edition of the Model Shipwright magazine.

Whether this helps or not,but British royal yachts of the latter part of the 17th century,rather than furling or brailing the topsail,the sail and its top yard would be lowered to the deck;the lower yard was then left 'a'cockbilled'.Donald McNarry wrote about the subject in an edition of the Model Shipwright magazine.

Whether this helps or not,but British royal yachts of the latter part of the 17th century,rather than furling or brailing the topsail,the sail and its top yard would be lowered to the deck;the lower yard was then left 'a'cockbilled'.Donald McNarry wrote about the subject in an edition of the Model Shipwright magazine.

My first-time attempt was a model of Artesania's  Hannah and I got into a real mess when it came to the planking.The model was,and still is abandoned.Undaunted,my next attempt was Scottish Maid,which was much more successful,though it still needs one or two finishing touches to the rigging.I found the hull much easier to plank (both first and second planking) with its 'clipper' lines.
Currently I am building Mamoli's Yacht Mary,which proved rather tricky to plank,but I have now completed the hull,and have made a start on the mast,spars and rigging.
The advice given above is very good-pick a simple model for starters,and one that is fairly easy to plank-not too many tight curves or excessive sheer.
And finally - good luck!!

My first-time attempt was a model of Artesania's  Hannah and I got into a real mess when it came to the planking.The model was,and still is abandoned.Undaunted,my next attempt was Scottish Maid,which was much more successful,though it still needs one or two finishing touches to the rigging.I found the hull much easier to plank (both first and second planking) with its 'clipper' lines.
Currently I am building Mamoli's Yacht Mary,which proved rather tricky to plank,but I have now completed the hull,and have made a start on the mast,spars and rigging.
The advice given above is very good-pick a simple model for starters,and one that is fairly easy to plank-not too many tight curves or excessive sheer.
And finally - good luck!!

My first-time attempt was a model of Artesania's  Hannah and I got into a real mess when it came to the planking.The model was,and still is abandoned.Undaunted,my next attempt was Scottish Maid,which was much more successful,though it still needs one or two finishing touches to the rigging.I found the hull much easier to plank (both first and second planking) with its 'clipper' lines.
Currently I am building Mamoli's Yacht Mary,which proved rather tricky to plank,but I have now completed the hull,and have made a start on the mast,spars and rigging.
The advice given above is very good-pick a simple model for starters,and one that is fairly easy to plank-not too many tight curves or excessive sheer.
And finally - good luck!!

My first-time attempt was a model of Artesania's  Hannah and I got into a real mess when it came to the planking.The model was,and still is abandoned.Undaunted,my next attempt was Scottish Maid,which was much more successful,though it still needs one or two finishing touches to the rigging.I found the hull much easier to plank (both first and second planking) with its 'clipper' lines.
Currently I am building Mamoli's Yacht Mary,which proved rather tricky to plank,but I have now completed the hull,and have made a start on the mast,spars and rigging.
The advice given above is very good-pick a simple model for starters,and one that is fairly easy to plank-not too many tight curves or excessive sheer.
And finally - good luck!!

My first-time attempt was a model of Artesania's  Hannah and I got into a real mess when it came to the planking.The model was,and still is abandoned.Undaunted,my next attempt was Scottish Maid,which was much more successful,though it still needs one or two finishing touches to the rigging.I found the hull much easier to plank (both first and second planking) with its 'clipper' lines.
Currently I am building Mamoli's Yacht Mary,which proved rather tricky to plank,but I have now completed the hull,and have made a start on the mast,spars and rigging.
The advice given above is very good-pick a simple model for starters,and one that is fairly easy to plank-not too many tight curves or excessive sheer.
And finally - good luck!!

Jud,
 
You and Chris raise valid points.   There are those who start a build log, realize they're in way over their heads and give up.  There are others, who start a log, realize they're in way over their heads and the put that log on hold and get a simpler kit.    One of the topics over the years has been about the number of models, unfinished, sitting in an attic or basement because the builder didn't know how to do what was needed.   
 
There's two articles in the article database that explain "how to select a kit" and "what to expect in a kit".  They've been offered many time to new members.   Both articles have great advice.
 
Going from plastic to wood is a big step.  Similar to going from replacing some items on your car to building one from the ground up.   Same principles, just different skill set needed.
 
In my case, my first ship was Wasa (from Billings).  I opened the kit, read the directions such that they are, and put it away.  I went to the hobby shop and bought a simple battle station and AL's Scottish Maid.    I learned. It's humbling to realize you don't know how to do things.   When those two models wiere done, I did the Wasa.  
 
We here at MSW have also seen the same thing in scratchbuilding.  Look at the logs of models never finished.   Even the starters like the Triton cross-section.   
 
It's tough call on things in this hobby.   MSW is based on the premise that everyone wants everyone else to succeed also.  Mutual support.   Sometimes, the advice may seem harsh, but it's voices of experience that give it. And they give it in context of "how to learn".  Some new builders do carry on and turn out a nice model but they are usually reading other logs and listening to those who have built the model.  And most would tell you, they should have started with something easier.   
 
My apologies for being long winded.

My first-time attempt was a model of Artesania's  Hannah and I got into a real mess when it came to the planking.The model was,and still is abandoned.Undaunted,my next attempt was Scottish Maid,which was much more successful,though it still needs one or two finishing touches to the rigging.I found the hull much easier to plank (both first and second planking) with its 'clipper' lines.
Currently I am building Mamoli's Yacht Mary,which proved rather tricky to plank,but I have now completed the hull,and have made a start on the mast,spars and rigging.
The advice given above is very good-pick a simple model for starters,and one that is fairly easy to plank-not too many tight curves or excessive sheer.
And finally - good luck!!

So... as others have said before it's harder to get decent photos of the rigging underway... but I've worked my way through it, and here are the results...
 

 

 
Really pleased with how it's turned out. Just need to get it back to my mum's house, now... Plenty of bubble wrap, blankets, made-to-measure boxes and some smooth driving are called for :S
 
Thanks so much for the advice, encouragement, suggestions and likes! It makes a big difference!
 
Rob

Hi all.
In my last model (is coming soon) I've been challenged to make some more metal work.
So I decided among others to deal also with the shackles. You know, the nautical item shaped as the Greek alphabetical character "Ω”...
I didn't want to spoil my lazy way of making models, so I made relatively reasoning...
Perhaps someone has also found an "easy" way to make shackles but I'm happy with my way.
Consider, I managed to make 12 pieces in 40 minutes, with minimal failure...and there are over 30 shackles in my model.
Just give me a few days time, to set up a presentation.
 
Thx
 
 The ruler is in cm.
 
 

historical photographs.

photos of the model of the Naval Museum in St. Petersburg.

 

Well, folks, we've come to the conclusion of this log. The Greenwich Hospital barge is about to row off, colors flying. Thanks to all who have looked in, 'liked', commented, complimented and discussed her. It's been quite the experience. I really appreciate the support of this electronic community over the past months. Thanks to each and every one of you, world-wide. 
 
So, what's next, I wonder?

Hi Alan,
 
I have a copy of Captain Baldridges booklet.It is very interesting but it doesn't actually list the models that once belonged to the Sergison collection.
He describes the collection in more general terms.
 
A list of the models found at Cuckfield Park in about 1910 first appeared in the Mariner's Mirror.
http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/00253359.1911.10654475#.Vapj6vlVhBc
 
Dr.R C Anderson (as Mark P mentions above) also complied a list of the models,though some have since been re-identified e.g the royal yacht 'Navy' is now thought to be the 'Henrietta'.His list also appeared in the Mariner's Mirror.
 
There is some more info here:
http://www.metmuseum.org/pubs/bulletins/1/pdf/3254717.pdf.bannered.pdf
Hope this is of interest,
 
Laurence B.

Hi together...
 
This is probably my last update of my Royal Caroline log. I am ready, have ordered the hood, made the stand and took all the pics for the gallery. The gallery will be open soon, perhaps I will upload the pics today, perhaps tomorrow.
 
I thank you all again - it was a funny and really good time. One of the pics show my two models - the Half Moon and the Royal Caroline - a nice small fleet with nearly the same scale. And the last picture gives an Impression of the next project - the Endeavour.
 
I will see you all again as soon as I start the Endeavour. This will be not before March.
 
Enjoy the pics and come by to my gallery the next days. I will follow several logs and stay online - of course. When you start wooden modelling... well, you can't stop it so easy
 
Cheerio my friends
 
Max
 
 
 

Cheerio my friends!
 
Well - it is done. The Caroline is completed, as I think. The rigging is fixed, the lanterns are on their place, even the flag is allright. although I will try with my next ship to get some more realistic flags... But nevertheless - I like the flag as it is.
 
All in all I say - the kit by Panart is ok. There is a lot of possibilities to bash or to improve the build. I got swivel-guns, built a door beneath the stairs etc... only some small additions as you see. For me it was most important to improve my knowledge and my craftsmanship. And I wanted to create a model that is nice to look at under a Hood in my living-room. This is done.
 
I was a little bit dissapointed by the rigging plan - it Needs a lot of detective work to understand the drawings. This could be done much better as I think. But at least is also worked.
 
I thank you all who followed my log, thx for all comments, tips, hints and tricks. The next days when I have some more time I will do some additional pics and at last create an own Gallery for my Royal Caroline. I will have a break now for some weeks. I will be back some not so far away day with my next log - the Endeavour by Occre, which I want to bash more according to the AOTS.
 
Cheerio
 
Yours - Max

Hello my friends an fellow men
 
just a little update with some pics again. Still working with the running rigging. But as I am working in the news business the past days left no time to relax and to care about my good old lady Caroline. All that terrorism takes my time away... But today I could finish the bowspirt and the biggest part of the foremast. So I thought I could be good to share my results with you There is nothing special to tell so far.  All takes its place as soon as I have found the place in the confusing rigging plan
 
Enjoy the pics and don't hesitate with any kind of comment.
 
Cheerio
 
Max