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US Frigate Boston, 1799: "Probably the swiftest sailing ship in the world."
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Attached is a recently discovered MIT link to a high-resolution file depicting the frigate USS Boston. Thanks to Baugean and the MIT Museum. -
It looks as if your Vanguard's shrouds are in danger of being damaged by its own guns. It's also worth noting that the gun ports for carronades are larger than those for cannons. Every conversion of a model involves a lot of work, also because you are not aware of all the problems beforehand. Attached for comparison is the plan of the Spartiate as fitted for the RN in 1803. The Spartiate is still very French, but also shows corresponding RN modifications. Edit: HMS Spartiate is excellently documented for a conversion based on the Heller Le Superbe kit, except for the masts. A French Spartiate would also be possible after appropriate research.
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HDMS Elben 1831 by TJM - scale 1:64 - PoB - first scratch build
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False keel: Admiralty orders concerning coppering
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HMS Ariadne 1776 (based on HMS Sphinx) by wvdhee – Vanguard Models – 1:64 - after 1793 refit as 24 gun 6th rate
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Figureheads of sailing ships.
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False keel: Admiralty orders concerning coppering
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Hammock Storage
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location of carronades on a RN 74 gun ship
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The Arrogant class is correct according to the anatomy book on HMS Bellona that I have in front of me right now. I got the classification for the Edgar class from Threedecks.org. Why they created a new subclass, I don't know at the moment.
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HMS Vanguard, as one of the Edgar class ships, is certainly well represented in its initial state of construction by the plans of her class mate Elephant 1786. The forecastle would certainly have looked the same in 1798. The time when the forecastle of ships of the line was equipped with a bulwark came only a few years later.
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A lot of interesting information about the ship can be found in the fabulous book about HMS Bellerophon. David Cordingly: Billy Ruffian from 2004. It's been about 20 years since I read the book, so I can't say for sure whether the armament was covered in more detail, but the book was definitely worth reading.
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Hi! I've been following the construction report from the beginning. I noticed that the French plan of the ship, from the first album of Admiral Paris Souvenirs de Marine, shows the construction of the rudder and sternpost in more detail. Perhaps that will be of interest to you. I'm attaching the relevant plan excerpt.
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The schooner brings several advantages to the group: unlike square-rigged merchant ships, it can sail close to the wind and, especially during longer missions, can also serve as a kind of mother ship. For example, it can tow boats to conserve the rowers' energy, transport large supplies, etc. And from the tops of the masts, one can identify a target earlier. However, some types of rowboats also have the ability to set sail. However, they would likely be inferior to the schooner in rough seas.
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It was common practice to use boats to attack ships in harbors, even on the high seas when there was no wind. This was particularly successful at night because of the surprise. If the loss of human life was not an issue, things could get bloodier during the day. The latter is exemplified by the boat attack in 1814 by the frigate HMS Endymion on the privateer Prince de Neufchatel.
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Below a information about Rigols from the book Navy Board Ship Models 1650-1750 by John Franklin. I've had the book for so long that I've not thought about it anymore. Quote from the book: From about 1675, port rigols are fairly frequently seen on models. The two Rigol drawings in the book are of the type shown in post 8. And indeed, a few pages further on there is a photo showing Rigols at the model of the third rate Hampton Court of 1678.
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The described action shows parallels to the Danish-British Gunboat War of 1808–1814, in which groups of gunboats attacked English sailing ships such as gunbrigs (HMS Turbulent for example) and forced them to surrender several times.
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I agree with that, of course. The earliest models I have found equipped with Rigols are these three First Rates linked above. I don't know of any others before that time at the moment. I haven't found any other models equipped like that before that. That's my own interim assessment after just a short search. I think only the discovery of a corresponding instruction from the Admiralty or perhaps one of the royal shipyards regarding the appropriate equipment with Rigols could provide accurate data.
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Here is a small excerpt from my first link, a first rate from 1725. The upper gun deck understandably has no rigols. The middle gun deck has some, except for places where water cannot flow down. The lower gun deck interestingly has differently shaped rigols than the middle gun deck. The models of ships of the line HMS Sussex and Boyne, both 80 gun ships from the 1690s, have no rigols at all. Edit: I suspect that around 1700 there was an order from the Admiralty to introduce Rigols.
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I offer you the 1720s. British first rate Edit: or a little earlier this one Edit: it can still be done a little earlier as this one shows
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If you have a deeper interest in the Battle of the Nile I can recommend the following book. There are certainly many books about naval battles, and a lot has been written about the Battle of the Nile. For me, the best book about the Battle of the Nile is: Nelson and the Nile: The Naval War Against Bonaparte 1798 by Brian Lavery. This tells the story before, during and, often neglected, after the battle in great detail. In particular, the description of how the ships, some of which were badly damaged, were repaired on site after the battle.
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Neverland Hobby - is this a legit model manufacturer?
Chapman replied to bruce d's topic in Plastic model kits
In addition to the shop in Brussels, there is also a Chinese manufacturer called Neverland Hobby https://www.scalemates.com/de/kits/neverland-hobby-8001-das-u-boot--1510553
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