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18′ Cutter for Syren — Clinker or Carvel Built?
Chapman replied to glennb17's topic in Wood ship model kits
An addendum: I remembered that I have an article about the U.S. Brig Syren 1803. A Naval Architectural Study of the U.S. Brig Argus. BY W.M.P. DUNNE Published in the NAUTICAL RESEARCH JOURNAL Contemporary information exists (Argus Journal of Indents, Naval History Society Collection) on the three boats of the U.S. Brig Argus from 1803. It describes the cutter on board, its size (25 ft) and its equipment (with a well and windlass), but not whether it was a clinker boat. It seems doubtful whether any information about the Syren's boats can be found. Perhaps in the logbook, if it still exists. Based on current knowledge, I would build the cutter with carvel planking. -
18′ Cutter for Syren — Clinker or Carvel Built?
Chapman replied to glennb17's topic in Wood ship model kits
Clinker boats are more difficult to repair, which is probably why the English preferred clinker cutters on board in their home waters rather than on long overseas voyages. I don't know how the Americans handled this. The US frigate Constitution has been quite well researched, and there is a wealth of information on the types of boats used on board. Author Tyrone G. Martin has compiled such facts in his literature on the Constitution. The USS Constitution Museum has also collected information on the boats. -
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My respect for this amazing rigging on this scale. It requires a lot of patience and a steady hand. How do you motivate yourself?
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I have the following from Eriksen: CONSTITUTION All SAILS UP AND FLYING. Chapter on Flags and Pennants 1812-1815. Pages 142-145 From Captain Hull's log: "...then hoisted our Ensigns and Jack, at the Fore and Main Top Gallant Mastheads." Eriksen supplements this information with his interpretation for the flags flying on Constitution under Captain Hull. Stars and Stripes from the peak and a second flag with canton even high with the main topgallant masthead. The U.S. Union Jack from the foremast (same height), and the Commission Pennant from the main mast-truck. My addition: Hull was not a commodore in this case, so it is quite likely that no broad pennant is displayed at the time of the engagement with the Guerriere.
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Hello Waldemar, Interesting project. I hope a better plan for the Randolph can be found. M.V. Brewington thought about the design of the first US frigates many years ago. His article, with plans for the first US frigates, can be found online. I don't know if you're familiar with it. Published in: The American Neptune Vol. VIII No. 1 January 1948 Unfortunately, the plan for the Randolph isn't any better there either.
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Pennants can also be seen on merchant ships; at least I know of two depictions of the famous sloop Union (1794?) with a pennant. I thought this might be a home pennant upon arrival in her home port, but she also carries this pennant in Nootka Sound.
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It looks as if your Vanguard's shrouds are in danger of being damaged by its own guns. It's also worth noting that the gun ports for carronades are larger than those for cannons. Every conversion of a model involves a lot of work, also because you are not aware of all the problems beforehand. Attached for comparison is the plan of the Spartiate as fitted for the RN in 1803. The Spartiate is still very French, but also shows corresponding RN modifications. Edit: HMS Spartiate is excellently documented for a conversion based on the Heller Le Superbe kit, except for the masts. A French Spartiate would also be possible after appropriate research.
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HMS Vanguard, as one of the Edgar class ships, is certainly well represented in its initial state of construction by the plans of her class mate Elephant 1786. The forecastle would certainly have looked the same in 1798. The time when the forecastle of ships of the line was equipped with a bulwark came only a few years later.
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A lot of interesting information about the ship can be found in the fabulous book about HMS Bellerophon. David Cordingly: Billy Ruffian from 2004. It's been about 20 years since I read the book, so I can't say for sure whether the armament was covered in more detail, but the book was definitely worth reading.
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