EdatWycliffe
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Looking very good, Rich. I’ve temporarily halted my Syren build while I research the best way to furl sails. (The research is as much fun as the actual build.) I think I figured out the staysails and I’m now working on the square sales. Ed
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Very nice the deadeyes look perfectly even. What procedure did you use? I usually hang the top deadeye evenly first. Ed
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Thanks Nice work, Rich, and Inspirational. I’m taking July off from the build to do research with respect to proper furling and rigging. I enjoy that part of the hobby almost as much as the build. Ed
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Good morning, Rich. I just logged on to your Brig Syren (Argus) log for the first time. I am also building Syren and just finished the main and fore masts. [Before I go further, I wish you a complete recovery from the injuries you suffered. Time heals most all.] I’ll be traveling in July, but will use the month to figure out how to bend furled sails to the model. I’ve never done that and, of course, the Syren instruction manual doesn’t cover the subject. There’s a lot of literature on the preparation of the sails, but not much on bending them to the yards. I do have Landlubber Mike’s excellent treatise, so my first task will be to learn which blocks on the yards and other spars are used for clews, leaches, bunts, and sheets. When I return, I’ll bring my build log up to snuff. In the meantime, I look forward to following your excellent build. Ed
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Frank, I’m building Syren, my third build, and would like to furl sails. Syren instructions configure the clews, bunts, sheets, etc. without sails. I can attach most of the lines to a sail and furl it to a yard before mounting the yard on the mast; but what do I do with the lines after mounting the yards. Any help or references would be greatly appreciated. EdatWycliffe
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If the diagrams included in the instructions are valid they’ll show lead blocks on the yard and under the top or near the mastheads on the upper masts. There will be a lead block for each of the lines you mention. These lead blocks are what the lines all reave through and then lead down to the deck. If the Syren documentation doesn’t show these things -it’s a great kit so I’d be surprised if there’s no rigging diagram- then I’d suggest getting a copy of Masting and Rigging of English Ships of War by Lees. The layout and lead of all running rigging from numerous eras is exhaustively laid out in that book. Alternatively you could use almost any contemporary frigate rigging diagram since the lead of these standard lines wouldn’t vary greatly from ship to ship.
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Sorry. Thanks Kevin!! I’ll bet you get that a lot. Ed
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Thanks, Kenny. I’ll look at the video this evening. Bending sails is a challenge and I’m happy to have the help. Ed
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Thanks much, Allan. I should have Lees in the library. Appreciate the suggestion. Ed
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Thanks much druxey. Appreciate the suggestion. I‘ll order the book. Ed
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Thanks much Wefalck. That’s very helpful! Appreciate the quick response. I’ll take my time with this and hopefully get it right. Ed
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Dan, I’m building Syren and about ready to step masts. I want to furl sails and have read extensively about making the sail and furling it. But I can’t find any source to tell me how to rig the sails. Certainly the clew lines, leach lines, etc. are rigged differently from rigging without sales. Simply put, where can I learn how to rig a furled sail? Thanks EdatWycliffe
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Hi, Ken. Long time since we built Fair American at the same time. I’m now working on Syren and I’d like to ask your help with furling sails. Never tried it before and I’ve read lots of articles on making the sails. But, I can’t figure out what lines need to be attached to the sails when furled, and when they are attached (before or after mounting the yards). Can you recommend articles or sites that focus on rigging furled sails?
Thanks, Ed (ejg711@yahoo.com)
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Ed: I’ve been away and haven’t had access to WiFi. I’ll prepare an answer as best as I can. My problem is that I’m still not home and my spelling is horrible and my memory isn’t much better. A good source is Dave An... book AFFM volume 4. He discusses each sail from the British Admirality perspective, which is a good place to start. Also the book by Peterson and I can’t remember its title.
Hope this helps. I’ll try to clean up the references when I get home and have the books in my hands.
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Hi Ken: it’s been awhile since we we building Fair American. Hope all is well in Brooklyn. I’m now building Syren and want to furl sails. I read a post that you referenced a 30-page article on furling in your Rattlesnake build. I just read Landlubber Mike’s excellent post on furling and thought I could get a reference from you for the 30-page furling article. Thanks much. EdatWycliffe.
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Ed: Sorry about the delay, but I don't normally read my profile. The best way to get me is by using the Notifications feature. When I rigged my Fair American and Rattlesnake I did a lot of research. I didn't just go along with the models plans; although I kept the plans in mind. If you want I can give you a list of the books in my library that I rely on. My personal email is jeffjonjames@mindspring.com . You may get a reject reply, but I will see your email and get back to you.
Cheers.
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Chapter 4 Stern Framing: I'm about three weeks late posting this entry. Started the upper hull framing and couldn't stop. (More on the next post re hull planking.) As you will see from the five photos, below. I had my hands full getting the stern framing to be half way acceptable. The sin of not perfectly squaring the bulwarks and center former revisited me with a vengeance. The formers were off kilter in three planes! I took a very deep breath and remembered that its just wood that can be built up and carved down. As you can see from the different color stern frames (some white and some brown from the laser burn), I practically rebuilt three frames to get them all aligned. I've got to noodle around with the ports a bit to get them symmetrical, but that will come later. Meanwhile, I reading ahead in many of your build logs and in Chuck's original practicum to avoid as many pitfalls as I can. Much appreciate Dirk's and Larry's advice along the way. (Dirk, I secured some Danish oil and Humbrol matte black as you suggest. Thanks. Ed
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