Gerhardvienna

Hi Carl
 
Here is one, https://www.royalcollection.org.uk/collection/69797/royal-barge, just klick the pics, as nr. 8 comes one shot of the inside.
 
Regards
Gerhard
 
PS.: Just found that wonderful drawings, maybe from a reconstruction of the barge. http://www.clairescully.com/editorial/#/national-maritime-museum/

Update
 
Build log part 31
( starting /making the winches, scale 1:144)
 
the winches will basicly be made of brass, the body framework is from stock 12 x 12 x1 mm squaretube. I have given up the idea of using real mini-toothwheels, and will use discs resembling the different toothwheel diameters instead.
On the slow spool shaft there will be the winding-line  drum the brake drum and two spool cones outside the frame. The fast shaft will bear two spool cones as well.
The drive will be by two steam cylinders and crosshead, with crankshaft connection to the wheels outside on the "crankshaft"
 
Nils
 

 
this diagram comprises the main basic parts of the steam winch (there will be 6 in total)
 
 

 
frame with mounted large drum and brakewheel
 
 

 
12 x 12 x 1 mm brass squaretube and scale figure for size relation
 
 

Carl: the photo I referred to is on
 
http://uk-england-guides.blogspot.com
 
Gerhard: thanks for those links. The inside photo I mention is of the rowing area, not the cabin.

Hi Carl
 
Here is one, https://www.royalcollection.org.uk/collection/69797/royal-barge, just klick the pics, as nr. 8 comes one shot of the inside.
 
Regards
Gerhard
 
PS.: Just found that wonderful drawings, maybe from a reconstruction of the barge. http://www.clairescully.com/editorial/#/national-maritime-museum/

Hi Nenad
Not challenge, but maybe exeeding limits ...........
To be serious, the only limit is, what you expect for yourself. Things can be done by trying only. BUT; When I look at your former posts, you have made some really difficult things before, so this wheel will not hold you back, as I believe!
 
Regards
Gerhard

Hi Nenad
Not challenge, but maybe exeeding limits ...........
To be serious, the only limit is, what you expect for yourself. Things can be done by trying only. BUT; When I look at your former posts, you have made some really difficult things before, so this wheel will not hold you back, as I believe!
 
Regards
Gerhard

Paul: I have found a useful photograph of the inside of Prince Frederick's barge (copyright, so cannot show it here) that confirms athwartship boards. These appear to be about 8" to 10" wide and painted red. There are also moveable vertical footboards for the rowers - a detail I've never seen or noticed before in small boat models. I was wondering if there were turned supporting pillars under the thwarts and indeed there are. All these will keep me busy for a while!

Hmmm... You're pushing me over my limits ....
 
I accept chalenge!

Hi Nenad
Just a bit rough, but a good first attempt. I know from your former builds, you can do that much better. Try to turn the spokes, if you dont have a lathe, you can use a drilling machine, fixed to your workbench. This brass spokes will not fit to what you can build, use toothpicks as you have shown earlier, and grind the careful to recommended size.
 
Good Luck, have sucesss!
Regards
Gerhard 

So we can go on, next photos are sorted out.
After building the stove i started with the cookhouse. I used 6 x 2 mm oakwood stripes, and glued them as walls together, the floor was made from the same material. 

 
The door- and windows frames were made for darker wood, that I had in stock from a former project.


 
Then the stove took place for a short test, space enough for the cook to walk around!

 
After that test I layed the clinker floor and wall into the house, what was a mistake at that time. The clinker photos I used was downloaded from Google search for "clinker floor", and resized to the correct measure.


 
As W. E.Falck told me in another forum, the walls were chalked white, so I had to remove everything, an painted the walls with white matt colour.


 
Even two lights were made, this will be shown in a next post.........

 
Best regards
Gerhard
 

Hello once more..............
As I wrote above, here comes the first part of the cookhouse. This will take longer than the things before, it was the largest part I made for the SMS Danzig until now. As KOCH 1895 wrote, the ship had no deckhouses exept the cookhouse, see the yellow marked part at the page from "Beiträge zur Geschichte"

First thing to do was the stove. As I mentioned in the first post this thread, there are no plans to get, so I had to build the stove first, and then the house around it. Plans for stoves are to find at the danish Rigsarkivet https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/billedviser?epid=4782656#189070,31896806,around 130 different plans there! This includes also distillery ovens, for the preparing of "fresh" water out of sea (salt) water.
 
Started with a sheet of 0,3mm brass, marked the different cutouts, and drilled a lot of holes

 
The recangular cutouts were filed to their final size, and the different parts soldered together

 
The basic body of the stove, the plans from the Rigsarkivet above, not shure what plan I took...............
(Sorry for my short brains !)

 
Different doors are soldered to the body


 
Baseplate and stands added

 
and finally all painted with black Revell paint, the paint was still wet as I took the picture, so it shines too much

 
Some pots and cans added, they are made from wood, the cans from boxwood, the rectangular pots from balsa. The handles are bended pieces from 0,3mm copper wire.

 
Regards & thanx for watching
Gerhard, have a nice day!
 
 
 
 
 

Just on the way.....................
Thank you all for watching, especially to Tadeus43: I plan to bring the model to Gdansk for the ships 170th anniversary, in late 2021, if I`m ready with the build! She MUST see "her own" water!
 
So, here comes the next parts of the capstan.
 
Head disc layed on top for a test

 
Now it comes to the center hole. A brass tube of 3 mm outer diameter is set into the hole, the tube must fit with strength, this is important for the next step! Upper end of the tube sits equal with head of the capstan without the head disc. No worry about the cleaves, they are hidden later with the head disc!


 
Capstan is clamped to the late`s chuck for a last grinding. This step gives the correct shape to the different discs, especially the lower disc must be a bit bevelled.


 
Now the head disc is glued to the capstan, the center hole is closed with a piece of  toothpick.

 
The next four pics show the former progress. I took stripes from black cardboard and glued them into the square holes




 
Also the iron rings around the head are made from cardboard.

 
Regards
Gehard

Hi Druxey
 
Thank you for this info! Is saved for "further use"
Regards
Gerhard

Hi again!
First as ever, many thanks for your kind Likes !
As you can see in the former post, there`s light in the cookhouse.
 
First I soldered emailled wire to 2 SMD-Led`s, the Led`s are only around 2 x 1 mm small.
 
 
As a next step I used 4 pieces of 0,5 mm brass rod, cut them to length with circa 5mm overlength, stuck them into a piece of balsa wood, and placed a short piece of 4 x 3 mm brass tube in the middle. All was soldered together, and then the overlength filed away.

 
On the bottom side I stuck a piece of 3 x 2 mm plastic tube into the brass, this works as an isolation for the wires.

 
A first test, there`s a light (over at the frankenstein place..............)

 
The glass cylinders are simple tubes of acrylic glass tubes. They came from medical inhalers, wich I need for the cure of COPD.

 
In the end I soldered end caps of 0,1 mm brass sheet to the lamps, grinded all to shape, and glued the lamps to corner stands. As glue I used glueing silicone, this takes a bit more time for drying, but fixes the lamps best to their stands.

 
One of the lamps mounted into the house

 
The lamps need some power, as we know, so I decided to build a battery box beneath the cookhouse. This box took me more than only one attempt, until I had it finished.
This was the first version

 
Some working hinges were to make, the box can be opened for change of batterys

 
The final version of the box.

 
This wall-mounted lever keeps the box closed

 
This lever on the box works as a switch, left position turns lights on.


 
The cookhouse with its roof. The roof was made from the same materials as the walls.

 
Regards, hope you enjoy that.........
Gerhard
 
 
 
 
 
 

Thanks for the comments, gentlemen. Now I'm back, it's time to begin fitting out. The first item will be the footwaling (the floorboards). These were laid athwartships  rather than longitudinally, according to the specifications for a different ceremonial barge of this period (ZAZ7154).
 
Gerhard: the planking is 1/64" thick, or a scale ¾".

Very clever, I like it! Keep the updates coming.

Hi again!
First as ever, many thanks for your kind Likes !
As you can see in the former post, there`s light in the cookhouse.
 
First I soldered emailled wire to 2 SMD-Led`s, the Led`s are only around 2 x 1 mm small.
 
 
As a next step I used 4 pieces of 0,5 mm brass rod, cut them to length with circa 5mm overlength, stuck them into a piece of balsa wood, and placed a short piece of 4 x 3 mm brass tube in the middle. All was soldered together, and then the overlength filed away.

 
On the bottom side I stuck a piece of 3 x 2 mm plastic tube into the brass, this works as an isolation for the wires.

 
A first test, there`s a light (over at the frankenstein place..............)

 
The glass cylinders are simple tubes of acrylic glass tubes. They came from medical inhalers, wich I need for the cure of COPD.

 
In the end I soldered end caps of 0,1 mm brass sheet to the lamps, grinded all to shape, and glued the lamps to corner stands. As glue I used glueing silicone, this takes a bit more time for drying, but fixes the lamps best to their stands.

 
One of the lamps mounted into the house

 
The lamps need some power, as we know, so I decided to build a battery box beneath the cookhouse. This box took me more than only one attempt, until I had it finished.
This was the first version

 
Some working hinges were to make, the box can be opened for change of batterys

 
The final version of the box.

 
This wall-mounted lever keeps the box closed

 
This lever on the box works as a switch, left position turns lights on.


 
The cookhouse with its roof. The roof was made from the same materials as the walls.

 
Regards, hope you enjoy that.........
Gerhard
 
 
 
 
 
 

Hi Paul
 
Sorry for that late response, The cans were simply turned freehanded at the lathe, the pots have been remains from 12 mm balsa wood. With a bit of color and a few copper wire they are now converted into their final destiny
There is NO waste in the shop, even the smallest piece of wood or metal can be used for just something.
 
Regards
Gerhard

Hello once more..............
As I wrote above, here comes the first part of the cookhouse. This will take longer than the things before, it was the largest part I made for the SMS Danzig until now. As KOCH 1895 wrote, the ship had no deckhouses exept the cookhouse, see the yellow marked part at the page from "Beiträge zur Geschichte"

First thing to do was the stove. As I mentioned in the first post this thread, there are no plans to get, so I had to build the stove first, and then the house around it. Plans for stoves are to find at the danish Rigsarkivet https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/billedviser?epid=4782656#189070,31896806,around 130 different plans there! This includes also distillery ovens, for the preparing of "fresh" water out of sea (salt) water.
 
Started with a sheet of 0,3mm brass, marked the different cutouts, and drilled a lot of holes

 
The recangular cutouts were filed to their final size, and the different parts soldered together

 
The basic body of the stove, the plans from the Rigsarkivet above, not shure what plan I took...............
(Sorry for my short brains !)

 
Different doors are soldered to the body


 
Baseplate and stands added

 
and finally all painted with black Revell paint, the paint was still wet as I took the picture, so it shines too much

 
Some pots and cans added, they are made from wood, the cans from boxwood, the rectangular pots from balsa. The handles are bended pieces from 0,3mm copper wire.

 
Regards & thanx for watching
Gerhard, have a nice day!
 
 
 
 
 

Hi Paul
 
Thank you, and all others for your nice likes!
 
The inlay work was the first, I have ever made. It took me more than only one attempt, to make it, but it was worth that work. The gun carriages had so many small parts, even this took a lot of time, but they had it all on the original guns. Even the barrels will be detailed, more about that, when I will cast them.
Well, here comes the last part of the capstan, the spokes.
 
I used 2mm round toothpicks as basic material and cutted them to 60mm length

 
Then I glued small pieces of 2mm thick plywood to them

 
12 Spokes made

 
A little test, they fit!

 
As last step painted the square ends with black

 
Next to show is the cookhouse, a lot of pics...................
 
Regards
Gerhard

Hi Nenad
Just a bit rough, but a good first attempt. I know from your former builds, you can do that much better. Try to turn the spokes, if you dont have a lathe, you can use a drilling machine, fixed to your workbench. This brass spokes will not fit to what you can build, use toothpicks as you have shown earlier, and grind the careful to recommended size.
 
Good Luck, have sucesss!
Regards
Gerhard 

Hi Nenad
Just a bit rough, but a good first attempt. I know from your former builds, you can do that much better. Try to turn the spokes, if you dont have a lathe, you can use a drilling machine, fixed to your workbench. This brass spokes will not fit to what you can build, use toothpicks as you have shown earlier, and grind the careful to recommended size.
 
Good Luck, have sucesss!
Regards
Gerhard 

Hi again Nenad
 
So, here is another option to make the steering wheel. For the outer rims and center use  a ring of 0,4mm plywood, the spokes can be turned as from Archjofo shown, and the space between the spokes and rings can be filled with balsa wood. This makes it less complicated, the wheel for the RIGI was made that way.
Hope you are not bad about some pictures...........

 
Regards
Gerhard
 
 

Hi Nenad
Great work so far, the rails look really good!
 
By doing the wheel, take a look at my SMS Danzig report, how to make the spokes. http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/12842-sms-danzig-1851-by-gerhardvienna-radio-150-scale/ The method I did it, was shown from Archjofo in his La Creole building report.  The outer rim can be done even in other ways. The way to turn the spokes is shown in post #7 in my report.
 
Best regards
Gerhard

Hi druxey
 
Maybe I did overread this, what measure do the hulls planks have? This looks so incredible thin but strong too.
Great work.
 
Regards
Gerhard