Sunsanvil
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Sunsanvil got a reaction from Obormotov in Chuck's planking videos...
Forgive me please for being new to all the terminology, but what is force bending (or, asked another way, what do we call the sort of bending shown in the video)?
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Sunsanvil got a reaction from Jeff59 in IJN Yamato by RGL - FINISHED - Tamiya - 1/350 - PLASTIC
Jealous!
Have you considered adding....
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Sunsanvil got a reaction from GrandpaPhil in HMS Bounty Launch by Sunsanvil - Model Shipways - Scale 1:16 - First wooden ship build
Yes, its true, I abandoned this to a shelf for, what...two years?! Embarrassing. But the cover is off, the box is open, the plans rolled out again. Now, where was I? Oh yes, staining the inside.
Need some help/direction here.
What (I think) I want to do is get some stain between the ribs before fitting floor boards etc. But how? Do they make stain brushes that small or should I just use a bit of scrunched up cheeze cloth? I cant really "rub in the direction of the grain" in between those ribs. Will that matter in this instance? Would gel stain be a better choice here? Is it worth applying pre-stain?
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Sunsanvil got a reaction from Tigersteve in HMS Bounty Launch by Sunsanvil - Model Shipways - Scale 1:16 - First wooden ship build
Yes, its true, I abandoned this to a shelf for, what...two years?! Embarrassing. But the cover is off, the box is open, the plans rolled out again. Now, where was I? Oh yes, staining the inside.
Need some help/direction here.
What (I think) I want to do is get some stain between the ribs before fitting floor boards etc. But how? Do they make stain brushes that small or should I just use a bit of scrunched up cheeze cloth? I cant really "rub in the direction of the grain" in between those ribs. Will that matter in this instance? Would gel stain be a better choice here? Is it worth applying pre-stain?
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Sunsanvil got a reaction from Dali in HMS Bounty Launch by Sunsanvil - Model Shipways - Scale 1:16 - First wooden ship build
Yes, its true, I abandoned this to a shelf for, what...two years?! Embarrassing. But the cover is off, the box is open, the plans rolled out again. Now, where was I? Oh yes, staining the inside.
Need some help/direction here.
What (I think) I want to do is get some stain between the ribs before fitting floor boards etc. But how? Do they make stain brushes that small or should I just use a bit of scrunched up cheeze cloth? I cant really "rub in the direction of the grain" in between those ribs. Will that matter in this instance? Would gel stain be a better choice here? Is it worth applying pre-stain?
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Sunsanvil got a reaction from maddog33 in HMS Bounty Launch by Sunsanvil - Model Shipways - Scale 1:16 - First wooden ship build
Minor update.
Sheer clamp is in.
I really need to figure out what I'm going to use for stain. I don't feel like spending $50 on prestain, stain, polycrylic, and solvent cleaner. I tried some danish oil on a test piece but it doesn't have any real colour or depth. I thought I'd try some of the craft stain (Folk Art or Americana). I have their sealer from my wife's tole painting supplies I could use. Have to find some first (Michael's had everything but).
I am also really torn on the position on the main mast. As others have shown it looks so much more correct one thwart forward, but I'm afraid that's going to put the two sails too close together (I plan on displaying it with sails unfurled).
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Sunsanvil got a reaction from maddog33 in HMS Bounty Launch by Sunsanvil - Model Shipways - Scale 1:16 - First wooden ship build
Well I reached my New Years goal of getting the tween and kant frames in. I used the boil method on these and had dramatically fewer breaks compared to the curling iron method. I used mini binder clip which left a divot in each one since they were soft from the boiling but for the most part that should be hidden by the sheer clamp. At some frames though the clips left a slight dent on the outside of the sheer plank which I hope I can sand out.
I am using 3 braces as you can see since I had nightmares of the hull bowing out. Surprisingly there was very little but just to be safe I left them in place during the tween frame installation and will probably leave then on until the sheer clamp is in place at which time I figure it will be firm enough to hold its shape on its own.
I agree that 3 kant frames probably isn't enough but instead of adding more I simply spaced the 3 more evenly which looks more correct to me (the instructions would have you group the three close together leaving a large gap between them and the last main frame as well between them and the bow.
I also agree the mainmast feels too far back as instructed. Not surprising given some of the other..umm.. dubious aspects of the model. I will have to think long and hard about how I want to tackle that. The blocks and centre floor are not actually installed, rather they are just set in place to get a sense of the spacing.
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Sunsanvil got a reaction from maddog33 in HMS Bounty Launch by Sunsanvil - Model Shipways - Scale 1:16 - First wooden ship build
Well, we officially have a planked hull. In the end I just held the shutter with my hands for 25 minutes each.
I edge glued every one so after the first sanding there isn't actually a ton of filling to do. It's remarkable how solid it feels at this point.
I will do a bit of crack filling, another cursory sand, and then comes the moment of truth: popping it off the building frame...
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Sunsanvil got a reaction from maddog33 in HMS Bounty Launch by Sunsanvil - Model Shipways - Scale 1:16 - First wooden ship build
Starting to look like a boat...
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Sunsanvil got a reaction from coxswain in HMS Bounty Launch by Sunsanvil - Model Shipways - Scale 1:16 - First wooden ship build
After a long hiatus I'm dusting this off, determined to finish it (I'm forbidden to buy any more kits until I do ). Ordering some cherry stain for the inside today with a plan to paint the outside.
On the subject of mast/sail position, I stumbled across this:
Granted it is smaller than our subject...on the other hand it is a credible "real" reference.
I think I might just kick convention aside and position the larger mast and sail fore, the smaller set aft. Thoughts?
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Sunsanvil got a reaction from CaptainSteve in HMS Bounty Launch by Sunsanvil - Model Shipways - Scale 1:16 - First wooden ship build
After a long hiatus I'm dusting this off, determined to finish it (I'm forbidden to buy any more kits until I do ). Ordering some cherry stain for the inside today with a plan to paint the outside.
On the subject of mast/sail position, I stumbled across this:
Granted it is smaller than our subject...on the other hand it is a credible "real" reference.
I think I might just kick convention aside and position the larger mast and sail fore, the smaller set aft. Thoughts?
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Sunsanvil got a reaction from Papa in HMS Bounty Launch by Sunsanvil - Model Shipways - Scale 1:16 - First wooden ship build
Well, we officially have a planked hull. In the end I just held the shutter with my hands for 25 minutes each.
I edge glued every one so after the first sanding there isn't actually a ton of filling to do. It's remarkable how solid it feels at this point.
I will do a bit of crack filling, another cursory sand, and then comes the moment of truth: popping it off the building frame...
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Sunsanvil got a reaction from Farbror Fartyg in IJN Yamato by RGL - FINISHED - Tamiya - 1/350 - PLASTIC
Jealous!
Have you considered adding....
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Sunsanvil got a reaction from mtaylor in General Finishes Dye examples?
Might be a long shot, but has anyone uses General Finishes Dye on basswood, something like their Vintage Cherry? I'm trying to visualize what that would look like.
In general, how are their waterbased dyes in terms of grain lifting (they say they include some resin to minimize it, but that implies there will still be some lifting).
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Sunsanvil got a reaction from Canute in General Finishes Dye examples?
Might be a long shot, but has anyone uses General Finishes Dye on basswood, something like their Vintage Cherry? I'm trying to visualize what that would look like.
In general, how are their waterbased dyes in terms of grain lifting (they say they include some resin to minimize it, but that implies there will still be some lifting).
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Sunsanvil got a reaction from Nirvana in Chuck's planking videos...
Forgive me please for being new to all the terminology, but what is force bending (or, asked another way, what do we call the sort of bending shown in the video)?
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Sunsanvil got a reaction from Nirvana in Chuck's planking videos...
When he says "no water", does he mean just for the one type of bend he demonstrates, or does he advocate no water period?
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Sunsanvil got a reaction from Nirvana in Chuck's planking videos...
So... at the onset he basically maps out on the frames/bulkheads where each and every plank is going to go and then shapes and bends each plank accordingly....and ends up perfect. Do I have that right?
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Sunsanvil got a reaction from mtaylor in HMS Bounty Launch by Sunsanvil - Model Shipways - Scale 1:16 - First wooden ship build
Haven't made any progress over the past couple weeks. I've sort of hit a crisis of indecision.
Dont know what I want to do as far as stain/finish. I wanted to use LeeValley's linseed oil (Tried & True brand Danish Oil) because I'm familiar with it and have a bunch here but its just too light a finish. I've read you can tint it but that sounds like opening a can of worms. Tried & True makes stained versions of the oil but I cant find any in Canada.
Dont know what I want to do with the masts. Swapping them seems like an interesting approach but where no one else has explored this I'm nervous to go out on a limb like that.
I started fiddling with the parts for the quarter deck...for some reason it doesnt look right to me for the beams to rest against on the hull planks like the plans show. I'd have thought they should rest on top of the ribs.
If anyone can send some sage words to inspire me back on task it'd be much appreciated.
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Sunsanvil got a reaction from mtaylor in Home made stains from vinegar and steel wool?!?
Stumbled across this while googling about wood stains:
http://www.apieceofrainbow.com/make-wood-stain/
No idea if its bogus or what, but its an interesting notion...
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Sunsanvil got a reaction from PeteB in Miniature Hand Tools
I LUST after their mini chisels and plane. C $100 if I bought both though so this is one of those "I will have to save up" things.
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Sunsanvil got a reaction from mtaylor in HMS Bounty Launch by Sunsanvil - Model Shipways - Scale 1:16 - First wooden ship build
I just took a peak at the launch used in the 1984 movie, and had a bit of a revelation when it comes to the masts question.
First, in their version, the positions of the masts seems to correspond with the kit plans, however...
The larger sail is seen on the forward mast, the smaller one aft.
I make no assertion as to what is more correct and such, but this does open up a new possibility at least.
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Sunsanvil got a reaction from mtaylor in HMS Bounty Launch by Sunsanvil - Model Shipways - Scale 1:16 - First wooden ship build
This is Canada, multiply by 1.35.
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Sunsanvil got a reaction from mtaylor in HMS Bounty Launch by Sunsanvil - Model Shipways - Scale 1:16 - First wooden ship build
Minor update.
Sheer clamp is in.
I really need to figure out what I'm going to use for stain. I don't feel like spending $50 on prestain, stain, polycrylic, and solvent cleaner. I tried some danish oil on a test piece but it doesn't have any real colour or depth. I thought I'd try some of the craft stain (Folk Art or Americana). I have their sealer from my wife's tole painting supplies I could use. Have to find some first (Michael's had everything but).
I am also really torn on the position on the main mast. As others have shown it looks so much more correct one thwart forward, but I'm afraid that's going to put the two sails too close together (I plan on displaying it with sails unfurled).
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Sunsanvil got a reaction from Elijah in HMS Bounty Launch by Sunsanvil - Model Shipways - Scale 1:16 - First wooden ship build
This is Canada, multiply by 1.35.
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