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Jean-Pierre, Thank you, and yes, the recovery process is working out. I am doing this very slow with lots of dry runs. Marcus
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Ab, Thank you for the encouragement and as always, thank you for your guidance in building this ship. Marcus
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Steven, Either I do a drastic re-do or start all over again. If I left it the way it was the area would be too much of an angle instead of straight up. I have learned a lot from the drastic re-do as I want to build another Fluit and it will be much easier knowing what I should look out for. Marcus
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I did a dry run of the shape of the re-do area. I like to get a visual of it all before anything becomes permanent. It looks so much more like a Fluit. This time the temporary planks end up in the middle of the ship compared to last time. Next I will remove all the planks and and use the battens to follow the natural curve of the ship. I created lots of molds from scrap wood and I have also made molds from card. They will be fitted and sanded to shape to fit the missing pieces. Marcus
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Kees, The details are amazing (hartstikke hartstikke mooi) And I agree with cog about the guider piece. I was surprised to see that. Marcus
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Ab, By molds, do you mean the bulkheads? Marcus
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Here is my batten screwed into the back of the sternpost with a temp. Taffrail-shaped mould. My somewhat stiff but still flexible battens are 2mm by 2mm square dowels of basswood (it is what I have handy) which I will use. Other material I am experimenting to use is 2-ply, 1.5mm thick maple veneer. Marcus
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Hi Ab, Thank you very much for this suggestion. The sketch is very helpful and I am implementing this. I tried a 4mm by 4mm batten and it isn't that flexible. 1mm by 4mm is better. Let me start working on this template. Marcus
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Did not do anything on the Fluit for about a week. Stared at the area that has to be changed. I measured and remeasured the area over and over. Did make a brass template to make sure that I end up in a point behind the rudder and that the angle of the railings are correct. So today removed not just the planking but also part of the bulkheads (no. 5, 10, 15) on the stern. I still need to remove the planking from bulkhead 20 and 25 and replace with new planking which will cover from bulkhead 25 to 5 for both sides. This area will be sanded flat. Where the bulkheads have been removed I will replace with new pieces of bulkheads, which I need to cut out with the Scroll Saw. I have been working very slow on this. Marcus
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Jean-Pierre, Thanks for the compliment and I Will succeed in building the Zeehaen. I've seen the whaler from Sergal. I think Kolderstok is going to do a Fluit. They just finished the jacht of Willem Barentsz. Marcus
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Jan, It is wood. Redo as many times as you want. Marcus
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Drastic re-do. I have started removing the planking in between frame 5 and 10 on both sides and the side where the overall planking leans too much outward between frames 5,10,15, and 20. I may just go further to frame 25, 30 and 35. Have to do this slowly as I don't want to rip it too fast as I may break something I don't want to. I will probably cut the frames as well and install new ones. It would then be easier to plank. I looked at all the pictures I have from Fluits and on some have there planking stop just above the stem and some show the planking a little further out of the end of the rudder. Marcus
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Ab, Would love to hear the rest of your opinions. 😁 Marcus
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Roger, Seems to me but Ab would be a better judge of that as he has built several Fluits in his lifetime. Marcus
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Jan, Possibly, but then I need to start at frame 30 and remove a lot more. The main reason why it is off is that the planking starting from frame 30 going to frame 5 is bent/bowed towards the outside. Don't really know how this happened because before the planking was installed all the frames were nice and even. Marcus
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Ab, I am never ashamed of redoing a model. With building the Utrecht, I got it right after the third try. I was continually having problems with the stern. Seems that is where I always have a problem with. Same with the Boyer. I also appreciate your constructive criticism and you show this with pictures. I think it is safe to say that you are the only modeler on MSW that has built several Fluits and I am in the process of building one. So I rely on you, Jan and a few other Dutch people to give me advice. Marcus
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Ab, Yes, there is a symmetry problem Thanks a lot for the 3D designs. The second picture is a lot of help. I will either pull the planking further out or rip everything out between bulkhead 5 and 10 and redo the horizontal planking. I will probably take it all out between bulkhead 5 and 10 and start over, (sorry, thinking out loud). Jan, You are correct in your observation of the right side to be closer to the hartline. I can't change that anymore. Marcus
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Took drastic measures and removed the planking between bulkhead 5 and 10. Redid the planking so they would extend way over the rudder. Combination of wood glue and sawdust was used to fill in the gaps. Most of this will be sanded away. Both sides are done and drying overnight. I have been having a lot of trouble with the stern. When you look at the Fluit from the top and side there is nothing wrong. But when you look from where the tiller goes into the ship, there is a whole lot of wrong. The ship overall has all the curves the way the plans show me and it all looks pleasing to the eye. Nothing is abrupt. The bottom 3 wales are placed correctly and the upper 2 need to be higher in the stern area than they are now. This will be done with the second layer of planking. BUT (here it comes) When I planked the bulkheads towards the stern, it didn't end up in a point above the rudder - see below-, that is the area that makes the boat look way off. Top view. Tiller rests on the rudder post and you can see I am way off, by 12mm. Have to figure out how I can move it all towards the middle. I don't want to trash the model and start all over again or remove the planking from bulkheads 30 to 5. One area where the tiller goes into the ship there is a 90 degree curve opening. It is bigger than the plans and what the pictures of Fluits in books show. All in all the further I get into this build the more I think that I should have build the 'cat' first as it looks somewhat like a fluit. Setting that thought aside....... I will continue with this build. Marcus
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Measured where the waterline is to be and from there on, go up to measure where the other decks will be. The colored push pins depict where the different decks will be located. Started creating beams for the lower deck (which will not be visible) and before it goes in I need to measure where the masts will be. Marcus
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Mark and Ab, thank you both for your suggestions and I plan to install deck beams as I need the curve of the deck. I plan to install all decks. There are a few decks you won't see but I am doing it for practice. Marcus
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Been sanding the Fluit on the in and outside of the hull. One of my delema is going to be on how to figure out where the different decks are going to be. I have made many templates to guess where they would be. I've never built a "more than one deck" ship before. So I had a thought. I could cut off the sides of the hull to where the lower deck starts and then put the lower deck in and built up the bulkheads and the planking to the next deck and so on. Any suggestions? Marcus
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That it will be and it is also one of the reasons I am building it. Like I mentioned before, it is the most challenging ship I have ever built Marcus
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Been sanding the 1st layer of planking and adding filler as I sand areas that need it. Most of my sanding is done in an unheated garage and when it is dry outside I bring the belt sander and sandpaper outside and do it on the back patio. Tomorrow till Thursday is going to be dry so I can get a lot done. Marcus
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