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Thanks Pat....I'm thinking I'll probably not be as clean and beautiful as your Victoria...but I appreciate the fine comment. For informational purposes...I put in 13 hours of total work time into coppering and painting the hull. I will repair any weathering damaged by the masking tape after I install the channels and chainplates. I think I'll add the topgallant rail and spray board first to finish off the upper rail, so working it won't interfere with the channel work. Somewhere in that I will finish the rudder and her hardware. Rob
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Thanks Greg. I think the metallic paint tones down the shinny aspect and directs the color more toward an oxidized brown muntz Rob
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Rich, I caught that when you first mentioned it to us and I really want to provide that image...I really want to finish the coppering first. do you require an image quickly to accompany your email? I can do that now if you wish...but half of the model (Her photogenic side) is covered in masking tape. Rob
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Some more progress pics. After this session I will head to the *Other* shop and make more plate strips.
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You're right on track as far as I can see...good work. Rob
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Rich…..I appreciate your candor and honesty. I apologize if at any time I gave the impression I found what I thought to be a suggestion rude and intrusive on your part. I assure you I have not. I love your input and that of everyone here. I hope I have not offended you or anyone.
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HMCSS Victoria 1855 by BANYAN - 1:72
rwiederrich replied to BANYAN's topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1851 - 1900
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Then roll it on through and there you go... Do this a couple dozen times and you will have ample tape/plates to do a lot of plating.... Enjoy. Rob
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Here are some pics of the process.. First I cut the tape to length....then feed it into the wire mesh and below the drywall sanding mesh Then all that is next is to run it through the roller and there you have nice embossed plates on copper tape. With individual plates and their simulated nail prints. Here is the roller and material
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I dug your rap...my mama don't raise no dummies........ I agree with you completely. I was side tracked thinking you wanted MY version to have brand new characteristics of her launching. Personally...I think Vlad is going the new look and of course I'm going...*been round the horn a dozen times* look. Irregardless ...her hull contours did not change (cept for some aging hogging)....she still is a beautiful well crafted model....from either era. God your back bro.... Rob
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When I get home from work I will take some pics of my set-up and how I make the plates from copper tape. I never actually showed the mechanism or the process...though I talked about it extensively. I just want the process to be clear for everyone. Images help........ Rob
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Check out my images of the process in my Great Republic build log...I describe it well there. Thanks for the fine compliment. Personally, I bought my copper tape on line...but Hobby Lobby might just have it. Rob
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Even that famous painting of her you love...depicts her plates as weathered brown........take another close look. Rob
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My original Revell Conversion version was built to those specs. However, I'm building her as she appears in that San Francisco image...with all the mods to her houses and rigging. She was NOT shinny and new at that point. So to make her so would be an inaccurate representation of her at that point. If one wishes to make her all shinny and new in her later configurations....they would be taking extreme artistic license in doing so. That is my view anyway. If we want to be accurate in one aspect....that needs to transcend into her esthetics as well. Rob
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This particular color of paint IMV replicates weathered muntz......NOT......brand new brassy muntz that has not seen water or wear. I know that Vlad is attempting to build his model as clean and flawless as he can...representing a new Glory, as one might expect to see when she came off the *line*. That is not my way. I prefer weathering...it represents IMV a more accurate representation of the subject. Someone once said that a modeler who weathers his model is after effect...while a modeler who models clean spotless models is showing off their skill and prowess as a modeler. Though this notion appears to be on line...IMV it takes more skill to accurately weather a model and not over due it then to simply leave it un touched in an out of the box state. This particular paint is lightly painted on and along with the shinny copper...blends to produce a convincing aged, browning, oxidized muntz metal. It's all perspective anyway. A couple of examples using this technique...changing copper into muntz. And what real old weathered muntz looked like on Cutty Sark
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Once I am finished coppering I will mask and paint the plates...once done I will then apply a dull coat to the entire hull(after I add the chainplates and channels). I have more weathering before I seal it all up. Thanks for peekin in. Rob
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Spent a bit of time working in the shop and I finished up the starboard side and I masked it off in prep for painting. Here is the paint I use to create it into weathered muntz metal.
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Vlad..you are doing great....but I'm trying to wrap my head around the location of the side port. Several images are conflicting and I know that the copper line has changed over time with Glory...probably due to her weight restrictions placed on her over time.....but... Your ports are placed just above her copper line...similar to that of the image of her being towed to Alaska....but her original launch image shows the side port much higher from the copper line. Even the era I am building shows her side port higher up from her copper line. Note the images. Her copper line has changed in her later years...probably after they removed the copper. Sorry about the upside down image..?
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I can't wait to mask the copper off and paint it with the metallic color for the muntz color....I really dislike the glare of shiny copper. More to follow. Rob
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