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I'm showing Michael my original composite build of Glory, explaining to him how I modified the hull of an old Revell Cutty Sark. He was impressed......as I was enjoyed.
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Michael explaining the error in the identification of this famous image of Glory. He told me that it was not of her in San Francisco...but actually of her just after launching in Donald McKay's yard...
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Well here is a brief description of my meeting with Michael Mjelde and his daughter Arina(The authors daughter). We enjoyed several hours of discussion and quite frankly....astounding revelation. Michaels involvement in Glory's history is far more reaching then anyone could ever imagine. I learned that there are over a hundred additional photographs of her that he has acquired from family of former crew members and other sources...that have NEVER been published. Even original hand written letters from Donald himself. Needless to say at this news I was overwhelmed. So much history that I was unaware of was discussed. History that I hope to be introduced to in the near future. Michael brought with him an original model that he had commissioned by a model shipwright over 40 years ago....built from the vary original plans he had devised. they did contain some of his original errors...but since having the line drawings remade and corrected...a new model...a more accurate one can be built. Not failing to recognize the extreme quality of this model...the builder was very experienced. I'm enclosing several images with a mild description of each. First...Michael with Arina discussing the original model.
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Yes the Donald McKay clan figurehead spent years in this field by that tree..before it was collected up and donated to the Seaport Village in Mystic.
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Coming along nicely. I like the idea of painting her green as originally designed by McKay....getting the *right* green may be more of an issue. It may take some research to find what color compositions existed for green back in the 1850's. Rob
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Nic...she's beautiful. wonderful job for sure.....just wonderful. Where ya gonna put her on display at? You making a case for her? Rob
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Arina....you've been instrumental in the entire process of introduction to your father. I've only read of other artists(Model shipwrights) having an audience with your father...but to imagine myself in that company is a real honor for me. Thank you. Rob
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I told Michael of the wonderful membership of fellow model shipwrights and our cooperation in working out the most accurate hull of the Glory and how we concluded that the drawings he made over 20 years ago were inaccurate. He completely agreed and was excited to hear of our project that nearly mirrored that of his own and his Australian accomplice. I’m so excited to show him our communitive progress. I have so much to discuss with him......and to show him my collection of Glory artifacts.
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I've been in contact with Michael Mjelde and boy oh boy do I have some news for you all. Mike has been in touch with a professional shipwright in Australia who through much effort by using every available photograph and being a designer of *DownEasters*, has designed and produced accurate drawings of the Glory of the Seas. Mike is meeting with me this weekend and we will discuss my own current project and he will be giving me a copy of the hull plans......... I will be getting him to autograph my two volumes he has written on the subject and If I am very fortunate I might get a peek at his new manuscript of his new book on the Glory of the Seas. I am like a kid in a candy store. Best wishes to all.... Rob
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Well I completely disagree. This vessel is not the Young America. This vessel has only 5 yards on her for and main...the YA had 6. this vessel definitely has the shrouds and deadeyes originating from on or within the bulwark (a typically British method for her composite ships). The stern ornamentation location is incorrectly located...not to mention the blatant poop rounded exterior...which is very much a British clipper design. Lets not forget the chain plates and channels which are NOT exterior or below the planksheer. These items alone would require significant hull and rigging modifications. Note the existence of a fifth shroud on the mizzen. If Ed did his do diligence,(And I know he did), he would have never made this mistake on his model. And I find it hard to believe she would have been modified to mimic a British clipper. No Monkey gaff and the gentleman in the for ground appears to be wearing a Bowler hat......come on....(Had to throw that in there). I can see far too many inconsistencies for me to be comfortable saying this vessel is the YA. Personally I think this old image was incorrectly identified by an uniformed bystander. Rob
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Well since it's getting cold outside...it usually means I have to have the material laid, and trawled out in about 10 minutes. If it was warmer even less. That mean the initial set has occurred and I can begin carving down any over exaggerated material shortly there after. I generally prefer the material to be totally dry so I can carve and sand without clogging my discs. I spent some time sanding and filling also tonight...this I'll let cure over night and will work some more after work tomorrow. Just to keep this build interesting...I plan on using lots of dental materials in its construction. I will be using UVL cured cements to afix the main and monkey rails..not to mention any and all the sheer and chainplate structures and moldings. UVL cements cure instantly and become a hard plastic...10 times stronger then typical type cements. Plus this makes the build go by far more rapidly. No waiting for glues to dry...just zap the cement with a UV light and done. We're getting there folks. Rob
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Back to my insanity. I laid down the sub veneer on the port side....once dried I will then again begin adding the coats of acrylic stone to form this side of the hull. The starboard side has its second coat already and it is dry...a few more touch-ups and it will be ready for final finishing. I'm waiting to get the starboard side to the same level of finish before I finish both sides together. I pray, I have not lost a faithful audience...thinking I have gone completely mad..straying away from hard and true planking techniques for a back alley quick remedy for success. However I have always contended that I use unorthodox techniques and materials when I build my models. Remember friends it is the finished product that maters...not how we get there. Here are some pics of the doings from my frankensteinian laboratory...... Rob
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Great sleuthing Clipper fan. I had realized she had very tall sides...39 1/2 ft was my goal...but the new eval of 40' 10" makes sense. Just use deductive comparison analysis....look at these already posted images to see what I mean. Look at the height of her sides above the copper line and the height of her gunals from main deck level.
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Oh my..no need to be apologetic....you just get better and we'll see you when you recover. Let your wife tend to you and take it easy...we'll still be here and roaring along. God bless you and for a quick full recovery. Rob
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When it’s painted you never know what it’s made of
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I applied a second coat of material today and worked on contouring the hull...paying close attention to the concaved entry and exit. I first build up...then I take down to the correct shape. I will let this session dry and then I will go back to the port side and finish up laying the sub planks and then begin adding the stone. I like working in these materials because I have enormous amounts of experience with then...knowing setting times and working times. Once final curves have been established and smoothed I will add a final wash to fill in any small inconsistencies. I will be coppering the hull too so many minor blemishes will disappear beneath the copper. A finishing coat of latex paint will seal any pores left in the stone. Here are some pics of todays work. Rob
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Thanks for asking Roger. I sand laterally, so as not to create ribbes or washboarding. I do comparative work...by means of using known template dimensions and comparing to the actual hull..via photographs. She was a full tall hull...compared to that of a man of war. Rob
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Removed pins and flipped the hull over to apply first coat of silicone stone on the starboard side. I'll let it all dry and tomorrow sand and apply correction filler. Rob
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To everyone. The stone is rigid as stone, sand able and is formable. I wanted to try this method because it’s unique. Plus I’m very familiar with dental materials and their manipulation. Once finished it will paint well and will be un-noticeable as anything but a well formed hull. I challenge anyone to suggest my application will be anything less then what is expected. I love doing things Waaaay outside the box. Things so unorthodox and unexpected that the experienced are even betting against me. Stay tuned and be patient. I can feel a buckle coming loose on my straight jacket.
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