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We talked about so many things....but we spent little time on her figurehead. I did mention I was carving her at 7/8"...and he was amazed I could made her so small. He did say he had more images of her...I'll continue to ask him. He is still cataloging his images. We also talked about his friend in Australia who is redrawing the Glory...and that he has acquired all his drawing of 40 or more DownEasters and drawing of two clippers that were actually built in Seabeck. 1000~1500 ton vessels. Deep water vessels. I thought the Western Shore was the only clipper to be built on the West coast...at Cooz Bay Oregon. That is all together an other story for sure....... As far as the figurehead goes.......I'm carving her toga currently...and I'll spend more time tonight...hopefully finishing her up. Rob
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Rich...Mike said he hopes it will be out by Summers end...and I told him I would need 3 signed copies. I'll keep reminding him...but the publisher is who we are waiting on at this time I gather. Rob
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I talked to Mike today and he told me the nameboard is 14ft long...slightly over what I calculated(I couldn't quite see the flowery ends all that well). Mike told me he was the one who helped that museum acquire the nameboard....magine that....? Anyway...what a time with Mike. He has many more images he is going to send me and one in particular is of the stern... from the stern. He also has a drawing of the exact stern mouldings he will get me too. We hit the gold mine. Mike tells me that his new book is in publishing as we speak and wouldn't you know it...he even has the manuscript ready for his fourth book....yep...the final voyage of the Glory when she sailed to Alaska and back to Seattle. Wonderful! The image for his next books dust cover is the one his daughter posted here not long ago. It was a great time conversing and trading information about clippers and Donald McKay. I didn't know this but Mystic Seaport has a rewrite of his book that was published in 2000. It corrects all the mistakes...well some of them...in his original book. I think I need to get that. Great times with Mike. Rob
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I calculated the length of the figurehead and used that to determine the nameboard length
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Hey Rich...did you ever get the actual length of the nameboards for Glory? I projected that it was 13ft long. Rob
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In my scale the figurehead is 7/8" in length...so she will be hand carved from plastic and I will use hard dental wax to carve her toga. I have several ideas to work with so I hope it works out fine. I also spent some time printing out her gold on black name boards in 1/96 scale as well. Lots of small details to attend to in advance. Rob
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Thanks Vlad..... I'm taking this time to compile construction material and while doing so, i tend to work out production planning issues as well. By the way....I'll be meeting with Mike tonight and I'll be getting your book signed, so I hope to have that off to you shortly. Can you PM me and give me your address? Rob
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No my friend.......a dental hand piece or a Dremel and some cut-off wheels
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I'll be making lots more. In conjunction with my angle control wood ones I aught to be ready for planking. I received all the scale deck planking today from BlueJacket as well..... Rob
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Here are few other angles and a demonstration image of how it works. these are easy to make and anyone can make them. They hold tight and secure. Rob
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Spent a bit of time today modifying spring clamps to be my planking clamps. This is just a few of them......notice the cut out. This holds down the plank as the clamp grips the bulkhead...all in one.
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Vladimir....I recall when we first encountered and you had just begun or shortly begun your Cutty Sark build. I was telling you of my passion for American clippers and especially for Donald McKay clippers. You became enchanted as much as I . I had initially begun my own study for my first build of Glory over 14 years ago and started the composite model in 2010. It is amazing to me to see where it has all come. I met Richard several years ago and he explained of his own passions for Glory. It wasn't until Richard and I began a serious study of Glory when you brought your own talents of design and Cad ability to the table. It probably wouldn't have happened as quickly and proficiently if we hadn't had the expertise of Mike Mjelde and his willingness to accommodate our desire to create the most accurate version of Glory that had been produced thus far. Now we find ourselves at the beginnings of your own Glory build. The results of a near year long compilation of many researchers and Glory historian buffs. What a fantastic journey. I can't wait. I will be following this log with great anticipation. I hope to be creating my own build log of her soon myself. We can bounce off one another on construction ideas and material uses. I have already developed another clamping system and am planning on mods to the framing to accommodate more to scale entrance and exit dimensions. Your participation in the fulfillment of this next build of Glory of the Seas cannot be underemphasized. I appreciate your willingness to help myself and Rich in the acquisition of your fine scaled bulkhead frames. It would be cool if someone like Nic of BlueJacket ship crafters would be interested in making Glory of the Seas a new addition to their fine line of finely crafter model kits. And here we go....... Rob
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One thing is interesting about name boards, they were typically removed while not in port. Open sea travel was a tough business and many items not removed and stewed away...... we’re washed away and lost. Some clippers even removed their figureheads in fear of losing them in a rough sea and then replacing them when in port for a showy effect.
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Well I started this thread in Aug of last year, but I was working on the plans for a hull build many months before that. I’m waiting for Vlad. No pressure on him, because he’s been awesome. I’ve also been working on another clamp design that I think will rock. I can’t wait.
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Well it has been a year since it all started. So now we’re waiting on the bulkheads and Vlad is busting that out as quickly as possible. I’m prepping as much as I can till then. By the way Vlad, I received the Glory book so now I need to set up a signing date with Mike. I assure you Keith you won’t die before I get started
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Well, I’m going to paint her black with a pearl white gunwal and houses and a soft blue waterway. She will probably have varnished yards and top masts. I will build her lower masts and probably paint the recesses between the iron bands white.
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Well there you go. I was sure there was a nautical term aloof to us all....identifying the condition. Thanx Sailor for enlightening us. Almost sounds frontierian...then nautical. Maybe so. Rob
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Model shipways makes a similar clamp. It clamps onto the bulkhead and the pins press down against the newly applied strake/plank. Basically the clamp does two things. It holds the new plank against the bulkhead while your glue sets...doing this by holding itself to the bulkhead just below the plank. The design is sound.....however...when the hull begins to curve at the bow and stern...the pins if not adjusted to the offset pin hole...will NOT comply with the bend of the hull. So I made some mods to accommodate that issue. Here's a crude drawing
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You are doing a wonderful job for sure. The top three images you chose to model....and I can see why..the sails are fuller and appear more active in the animation of their design....where as you suggested the last image the sails are trim and taught. This is easily seen by the fact the top 3 images the sheets are relaxed...allowing the sails to billow...where as the last image the sheets are drawn in tight and the sail is fully bent. In your example your sails are fully bent and you still achieved the fullness of the first 3 images. Sail(I know) can be arguably subjective. The point that you added them...and with functional accuracy demonstrates a knowledge of their function and control. And a sailing ship without her sails is either in port(where they would be stowed) or the modeler left them off to allow better viewing of their rigging details. Like yourself....I preferred to present my model(Great Republic and Glory of the Seas) as they would appear at sea...where she would have been most at home. The discriminating eye can find the finer details if they are modeled.....and sails and their rigging, make up part of the finer details. One last question: Did you add the jackstays to the yards then lash the sails to them....in your search for the *Finer* details? (And what about those gin blocks?) Rob
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This image shows the right pin in the lower slot for flat strakes......and the right pin removed and placed in the upper slot for strakes following the deep curve of the bow or stern. I modeled the clamps after one I saw on ModelExpo. They are made of hard maple. I'm getting as much done in preperation for this fantastic build. Rob
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In anticipation of getting some bulkheads from Vladimir...I have ordered decking and strake timbers for my Glory build. I ordered from several suppliers..wanting to ensure a good quality and quantity of timbers. In preparation..I spent some time in the shop today and I designed and made 10 identical planking/bulkhead clamps. They work by clamping onto the bulkhead and by way of steal pins...press down on the strake as it is drying to the bulkhead. In makign them I included a feature by way that the same clamp can hold strakes flat against the bulkheads that are amidship and by way of the right hand side pin that has two slots...I can use the upper slot for the strakes that are following the curve of the bow and stern...but maintaining a parallel clamping surface to the bulkhead. Here are the ten clamps all in a row. They use a wing nut and bolt to clamp the wings together against the bulkhead. Rob
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