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Wonderful work Bruma...excellent. You said you scratch built each yard....did you also make the gin blocks as well. I see you fashioned the truss for the lower topsail instead of using the Revell solution. Wonderful attention to detail. Will you be belaying all the sheets and bunt lines to their pins? She is coming along nicely. I am interested in your assembly approach....I constructed my Great Republic mast and yards off model for ease...did you do something similar? Awaiting your next install. Rob
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Interesting....however...I tend to believe this is just another optical illusion we are seeing. The curve of the bow viewed from below the profile can give the illusion it is bowing down...when, if you look at the drawings it does no such thing. The half model of the James Baines only reinforces this phenomena...because it to is viewed slightly below the profile. IMV....all we are seeing is the curve of the bow and from this particular angle it appears to bow down....going in its natural curve. Just hold a cup up and look at it from the side...its edge is flat...but then rotate it slightly so as to look at it from below its profile and the edge begins to bow down. My observations anyway. Rob
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Great pictures guys....really amazing stuff. I spoke to Mike as we prepare to meet again for another book signing and some good conversation. He informs me that he has been " 'revisiting' the construction period when Glory was under construction. It's going to help him understand better, fifty years removed, how she was actually built and what was entailed in doing so". In addition to Duncan Mcleann's accounts. It sounds exciting and I'm looking forward to any new conclusions. Rob
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Interesting for sure. I made 2 figureheads in that scale before. One of Athene on my 1/96 mod version......and the Highlander of the McKay clan for the Donald McKay
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And that means when using the laser cut bulkhead plywood for the keel and stem..you will need to sand it or replace it to just half of the 1/4 plywood thickness. If you want to be accurate. At up to this point we have been trying to be as accurate as possible. Rob
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Oh man.....that is running your own business math....I get to work and I forget everything....cept what I'm doing at work. Thanks for setting me straight Nic. Rob
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Thanks Nic....I knew it was 1/8"=1ft...an 3/32" I originally wrote those but changed them...cuz I was at work working from memory...an my memory is slippen it appears. Thanks for helpin an old man out. Hey...by the way...can I order just the wood strakes for planking the hull from say..... your Red Jacket kit? Rob
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? Let me get that right. My great Republic was in 1/128...where 1/32"=1ft. So 1/96...3/16"=1ft? Or somewhere there abouts? I'm assuming the plywood used in making the bulkheads is about 3/16" thick. And if my calculations are correct...I will need to reduce the stem and stern boards by half.....to keep things in scale. One thing I dislike...is when a modeler(Myself included in the past) doesn't reduce the provided keel to keep it in scale...although every other aspect of their model is in scale. See what I mean from my own error...even though I had no choice to make this change with the Revell hull...it still looks out of scale and clumsy compared to the real ships stem. Rob
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One blaring issue I want to tackle with this new build....is. All these kit designs call for a pretty hefty keel. Cut from the same plywood the bulkheads are cut from. The only problem is, is the stem is not to scale. It is much too wide to be accurate. By reviewing the cutwater and stem of the Glory in her many photographs of them...you can see it is quite thin. 5"~6" probably. I'll most likely be adding the keel and stem after the hull is planked...and great care must be taken to fare in the bow and stern so as not to make the transition out of scale or unruly. Any input on this issue? Rob
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Indeed...my first was a mod of an existing molded hull...my second was a test run to see the shape and accuracy of the hull Mike and his friend in Australia designed...that is why I used gypsum to sculpt the hull. Now I hope to begin again with a good foundation...based on far more extensive research...by a team of devoted Glory enthusiast's...to include the original Glory hound...Mike Mjelde. Rob
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Great job Vladimir...clean work. I thought..Cutty Sark was your first ship model?...or was she your first clipper? Beautiful work. Rob
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I know...and I'm not insulted. BlueJacket..sells planking from their kits separately...you can buy in bulk from even model railroading outfits. I'm thinking I'm going to use my maple veneer and cut them into 1/16" planks. They go on easier and they conform far better to the curves. Ed actually cut all his small planks from a block of wood...like a 4X4...... Rob
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I can tell you...he milled it all from larger stock....every last piece. Yeah.....now you see what we're up against..... Rob
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Exactly. Now I need to get the strake material and what I plan on using for decking. Rob
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Isn't that cool...she's taken you over....hasn't she? McKay ships are amazing and doing the historical research makes it all the more fun. Thanks again. Rob
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Snug...we are beyond just drawings..we have then laser cut out now. Thanks for looking in. Rob
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1/96 if that is OK for me..not sure about Rich. I'm sure it will be OK too....I'll try to get his feedback. OH I understand about the book...the copy I had him sign had great value to me...even before he signed it. I plan on getting another copy anyway for myself and having him sign that too. I can't thank you enough Vlad. Rob
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Vlad...Mike tells me he would love to sign a book for you. You did say you have a copy right? Mike is working from home for a short time and that would be the best time to get the signature. If you can't get your copy to me in a timely manner..I can get a copy in short order and have it signed for you if that is what makes more sense? Rob
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A book signature is in order....I'll talk to Mike and set up another meeting. Cool. Please PM me to let me know what I will need to pay for the bulkheads and shipping and how to make the payment. Plus....I'm assuming you had the frames made in 1/72....I'll go with that..but if it is at all possible can they be reduced to 1/96 for my special needs? If that will be to difficult I'll stick with what you have already established. Thanks again so much Vlad Rob
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Modifying the Revell Cutty's stem and increasing her bulwarks was what needed to be dome to even remotely make the hull pass off as Glory's. Building all the deck furniture and houses was the easy part. I was never going to correct the deadrise of the Revell hull...so I had to live with that blaring error. But now with your new drawn bulkheads and framing...I have a chance to go back and do it right and correct all the minor errors that bothered me so. Rob
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OM Goodness....Vlad....that looks fantastic. Wonderfully drawn and executed. Now if you could be so amazing and have two more sets made and send them to me and Rich........ I will pay whatever it costs for mine and I will pay for your set as well for compensation. Please let me know if that is possible for you.....I know it is a great imposition...but what a time saver and a great beginning....to all have the same hull to work with and then to enjoy us all building our own similar versions. This is a wonderful day and you did so well. She looks just amazing. We all put so much effort and energy into extracting her dimensions from simple 2D B/W images....it's just amazing. Rob
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Yep.....Glory is a flat bottom boat compared to all the others. This is the problem I ran into in my Curry Sark mod. She was way to round to really represent the Glory
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Pretty funny that the Glory model I build by using a converted 1/96 Revell Cutty Sark hull...is looking more like what we are after....despite the slight error of the stem and its width. I was making it us as I went from Mike's drawings. This is 11 years old...I was less a model maker then now. Rob
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I'll revisit the sources for you(I'm at work), but I'm pretty sure that is what the OM weight was. Another note is that both of these clippers(sisters) were extreme models. so was the Fish and the Staghound. Glory was a *Medium* design. And from what I've been gathering, that term can be subjective. It implies a heavier body, with a smaller deadrise...or flatter bottom(More like a downeaster). It doesn't imply that the entry is more bulbus...such as a whaler or man of war. We have clearly identified her to have an entry more like of the Flying Fish and the Staghound.. Glory has a 22ft copper line 25ft to rail measurement. Neither the Fish nor the Staghound have the sheere as the Glory and subsequently less distance from copper(water) line to rail. So it is hard to say that McKay used one of these clippers as the model for Glory. I think if Vladimir's bulkheads are representative of a full bodied model.....also with the extreme stem of Flying Fish...we cannot hope to be any closer to Glory's true figure then at any time ever. I'm so excited Rob
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