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  1. rwiederrich
    I noted that the center of the forward bit is 9ft from the beak of the monkey rail. This can only be derived from this port image...since the clear, up close image of her refitting shows damage to this portion and is unreliable for measuring. This should help Vladimir with his location of the bits and name board. Rob
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    The image is so large I can't fit it all exactly in the frame..but here are several images. It is clear she had an extensive sheere. Remembering that the distance from the monkey rail from the top of the hood is 6ft and the top of the hood is the planksheer or deck level. Projecting that back and along the the planksheer to the mid main shrouds lets you figure the elevation of the sheer based on a projected horizontal. Rob
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    I inverted these...put them together and now have a very large image of the Gory when she was just several years old. I just can't get over how her sheere is so pronounced in this image. Did you say it was 7ft from mid sheer(around her main shrouds)? Impressive. I will surely use this new compilation of images when I build my version...so much data. Rob
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    Indeed. she had several water recirculation and drain lines put it to service her internal canning machinery. I concluded that the run-off simply followed the path of least resistance down and along her coppering. Wind may have been a factor...hard to tell. Rob
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    I thought the same thing. First her copper line is much too high compared to her launching image. This is probably indicative of her newly being surveyed and painted for canary service. Secondly, as you mention she appears to have a much sharper entry then other images depict. Perspective is everything I have to conclude. Rob
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    Talk about an amazing carving...what Art. Rob
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    This last picture is new....and for some strange reason her deck timbers appear to be laid horizontal or port to starboard instead of stem to stern. I wonder if she received a second layer of deck planking in her fabrication to a canary? Odd thing? You can easily see that her poop rail is definitely canting inward and then straightens as it proceeds around the stern. Notice all the hatch covers stacked on her deck...probably from her main hatchway...since it appears her aft hatchway is completely covered up by that new decking laid...and her aft capstan is also removed. It is evident she suffered some damage to her prow in the area of her forward bit and just over her starboard name board. Her moldings show damage as well. This might have happened when she collided with that steamer/tug . Rob
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    Her arm is much better....more demonstrating of where it would be in that position. Great job Rob
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    Mike sends me stuff too...but not those images yet..... Thanks for sharing them. Rob
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    This salmon can label must have come from that photograph.... Sweet image...so much info lies therein. Rob
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    Looking so much better...but you need to push her nameplate forward. The *S* in Sea is directly beneath the center of the forward bit and the bit is 8ft from the forward portion of the monkey rail tip. So your bits need to be relocated as well(Pushed back). Look at the close up of her.... Rob
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    Actually they are all the same image . Follow the edge of the stem and you will see it shifts from vertical to less and even less. This shift forces you eyes to assume it is vertical and forces the martingale off vertical. Creating the distortions you are seeing. Sorry. Rob
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    Great job...I must have been premature in my observation. I don;t wish to be a taskmaster........ Rob
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    Vladimir...you are doing a great job...but I think the middle roll of the planksheer is level with the rolled edge of the naval hood. they mark out the level of the weather deck or the main deck. your latest drawing shows it lined out above the trim of the hood and not going all the way to the stem...when the trim should flow directly into and then become the planksheer. You have it depicted on several of your other drawings.....not sure if that is how you interpreted it or if that is just an oversight. Or maybe I've got it wrong.... The planksheer is depicted by a band of 3 raised portions of a single or possibly double piece trim. It begins at the tip of the hood(as a double ridged molding) and when it arrives at the origin of the bowsprit it becomes a three ridged molding with the center ridge being that of the top ridge of the hood molding. The lower ridge of the hood's top trim molding, becomes the lower ridge of the 3 ridge trim of the planksheer. And of course the top ridge finds its origin at the root of the bowsprit. This 3 banded or ridged molding extends completely along the hull to the apex of the stern. This molding marks the level and curvature of the main deck(you know this because of your previous drawings depicting it as such) Your scroll work is wonderful..... Sorry for the nitpicking. Rob
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    Great work Vladimir. From this image you can see that her bulwarks is over 6 ft. the portion cut out to make way for canary work and men standing on the main deck gives a great perspective of measurement. By following the plankshear to can see the effects of the hogging issue she had. Many details can be arrived at from this image. Rob
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    The key to your technique is the wire in the sails and the free flowing flour in its bag. It adds even controlled pressure to simulate even constant wind..... Great job! Rob
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    The trick you Was it difficult painting your Modelspan/Silkspan? I've seen sails done very well with this material but they were always left unpainted and extremely transparent. The reason I opted not to use it for the Great Republic. But your technique is wonderful and the wire is so thin it hardly is given away if at all. The trick, it appears is to wet the span after its painted and simply let the water do the work creating the shape and the creases. I made my hanks just like you did...but mine where quite a bit smaller since my model is 1/128 not 1/96. Still you accomplished what most folks would dare NOT to even try. Great job for sure...can't wait to see how your square sails come out. I'm convinced enough that when I add sails to my Glory of the Seas....(that I'm going to begin again because my current model was built upon faulty and inaccurate data). It will be using your technique. Congrats and thanks. Rob
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    That's more like it Vladimir. Still not quite sold on the stern post though....but it is a work in progress. Rob
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    My original calculations were 25' above and 22' below. Rob
  20. rwiederrich
    Did some more measuring today and I made some conclusions based off of the extremely clear image of Glory's bowsprit and figurehead. First I had to determine the scale of the image so I could make accurate calculations. I determines that the image is in scale at 1"= 3ft. I deduced this by recalling that there are 3 ft between centers of each iron band on the bowsprit. Sure enough it is 3'=1" Not between the bands but between the bands centers. I then measure her figurehead and also determined that it too was exactly 7.5 ft long. I then measure the length of the hood and found it to be 17'2". The width of the stem just aft of the figurehead's feet is 2' 6" and the hood just aft of the figurehead is also 2" 6". The bowsprit is indeed 24' long The Naval hood at its widest over the Howes hole is 3' 6" The length of the stem from beneath the figureheads feet to the hull strakes is 8' 2" Distance from the top of the Hoods base to the monkey rail is 6'..just about right where the plankshear is and the main deck. And 2' from the hoods tip to the figureheads crown. Much can be derived from these new measurements. Rob
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    Being able to overlay actual Glory images to your scaled drawing is a fine way to keep things accurate. And in scale to all components in question. Rob
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    Since I made that initial assessment...I recalculated and I amend my measurements. That was made from her launching image...but with the new clear image you provided it appears her naval hood is rough 2 and 1/3 the length of the figurehead (Give or take). Using your measuring tool of the figurehead being 7.5 ft it can easily be calculated. I was originally in error...based on perception issues...that we are working out......Sorry. Rob
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    I keep saying AMAZING! Just Amazing! Rob
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    True..and the questionable image has the skylight forward of the mizzen. And the height of gunwale appears far too short to be Glory. Glory's bulwarks are as high as her deckhouse roof. Plus her poop deck rail stanchions are not remotely close to those of Glory's...yeah that image is not of Glory. You can easily see(In this beached image) that the prow has a sharp beak...not a soft round one that Mike had originally assumes. This should help Vladimir. Rob
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    I too would make that conclusion...if I knew for sure that that actually happened. We do know when she had the stick mods done and about the year...but to return her mainmast BACK to a composite mast from a simpler stick mast was never made clear...if that even happened. Not to mention her mizzen mast issues. The reason I bring up this inconsistency...is.. it might lend validity to her poop having mods done on her twin skylights. Which might explain that inconsistency in the image that was mistaken for her. Because in that image it does show that she had a main and mizzen masts that were composite and a single stick mast for her fore. It does show that she did indeed have her fore rail on her poop cabin modified when her boats were shifted to the Boy's cabin roof. It's just odd to see mods being done in this image to whatever ship that is, that were done to Glory. It's all odd to me. This is why building an accurate model of her during any particular point in time has to be so critically researched...because she changed so much. Rob

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