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    Doing research has its benefits...and one of them is discovery. I had come across several and paintings of the Glory that I didn't knew even existed. And like the Young America thread I too have found *NEW* images. When the Glory was run aground south of Seattle..I was only made recently aware of other photographs of her. This is an amazing image. A beach view.
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    Fantastic work..love the dovetailing detail. The life before screws and adhesives. Joinery was an entire science in of itself. Fine craftsmanship indeed Ed. Rob
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    Great building. Reminds me of model railroad building techniques...with scale dimensional lumber. Fantastic work Ed Rob
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    Sorry for any confusion Ed. I gathered my information from Model Shipways from a 1951 rendering. These were drafted from a decorative builders half model in the Smithsonian Institute. (USNM 160135) I suppose Model Shipways could be in error. I am also confused by Crothers renderings on page 416 of his book that depicts the YA with a similar forecastle as the drawing I provided. Further more...the same renderings are provided as examples of YA configuration in the book, British and American Clippers, by David MacGregor, ISBN 1-555750-084-3 Any direction would be appreciated. Rob(I did make the error of YA being in SanFrancisco...it was NY..in the B/W images I provided, I corrected the mistake)
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    Thanks Ed for your kind remarks. I will respectfully defer to your expertise. I suspect Crothers deck drawing of the YA must be in error...suggesting that the forecastle you modeled is the accurate one. Fantastic job
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    Good input.....though I'm not sure those dots are representative of rivets....just like the centerline dots are not representative of deck rivets. Personally I feel the dots are suggestive of rib lines and frame lines NOT rivets. However, Crothers deck drawing is typical of the forecastle configuration represented in these drawings. Plus, the biggest factor we are excluding is the notion that the YA had any deck modifications during her career..and these are represented in these depictions. I know for a fact Glory of the Seas was heavily modified and I have many photographic evidences of these changes..from year to year and captain to captain. She nearly looks like a different ship from early to later years. The real question lies..with who, actually possesses the ACTUAL deck/mechanic plans? Guesses are good....even good guesses....but some leeway must be given..if no one really possesses the authentic plans. And I truly understand your position........Confusion isn't an aid to the process. Those drawings are from a reputable source...and I will provide that later when I get home...if that helps. Rob
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    Fantastic! I pray you're payin them Lilliputions ampley.... Rob
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    Prior to my build of the Glory of the Seas and the Donald McKay...I was nearly moved to build the YA myself....however..she is a Webb creation and I'm currently a McKay fan...however Webb did lay down a 10K bet that the YA could beat McKay's Sovereign of the Seas. No contest found fruition.... but Webb ships come in a close/tight second to my favorite McKay vessels. I just love American clippers...and YA is one of the best of the best. Plus I build clippers for the reason that they did something particularly spectacular....The SOS set the fastest recorded speed of 22 knots for a clipper..worthy of a build IMV..the Western Shore for being the only large clipper built on the West coast of the US. And the Glory of the Seas..for many reasons, but one in particular...I have several pieces of her. Calm seas. Rob
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    Belle of 53..... Good luck at Mystic.
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    You may also find these contemporary drawings of her forecastle and poop deck of interest..to aid in your construction. If you don't already possess them. Rob
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    I agree Ed...I have been able to locate several paintings of Glory of the Seas....but as you have pointed out..very few of Young America. And the only photographs of her that I have come across are the usual ones of her in New York (corrected)
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    I recently refound this image I wanted to show you some time ago when you were framing your larger version. It depicts a mockup of a midframe of the clipper REDJACKET built by Deacon George Thomas of Rockland Maine. Pretty impressive and quite large...over 2 stories tall. Rob
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    Fantastic work Ed. As you know, I am a *Glory of the Seas* fan and have discussed our similar interests in the vessels and makers of our examples... I had been searching for a representation of our vessels in art form and was not disappointed..when I came across in the collection of Dr Norm Adams a perfect example of our ships in an exciting open sea race depicted by famous nautical artist Carl G. Evers. The piece entitled; *CONQUERORS OF CAPE HORN* YA gaining on Glory en route to San Francisco. Enjoy
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    Surely..I meant no disrespect to Crothers concerning his estimations of original color schemes of said portion...however it is true as you have duly noted that changes did occur..even photographic evidence suggests this. I only pointed out that any error could find its origins in many places. Since, not too many folks are still living who actually sailed on such vessels to gather first hand accounts from....we can defer to qualified experts such as Crothers and the like. I for one rely heavily upon Crothers for my many builds. Rob (Avid follower of your fantastic builds.)
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    Yes there are some slight differences....the poop deck rise may indeed be an error, but who'e to say it wasn't Crothers, since he obviously got the fancy rail paint color wrong...well at least from any photo documentation I have ever seen of the actual ship and respectable paintings of her. One thing I think can be an explanation...like most commercial vessels..they did undergo changes and modifications during their careers..I know this to be oh so true with one of my favorite McKay vessels...Glory of the Seas. I have extensive documentation on her and it depends on the year as to what you might consider adding or detracting from her deck furniture to her rigging and masting. All in all..do to the inadequate collection of true accurate images and a good living example..a well executed likeness of any American clipper is almost as good as one can get(Unless you have the actual mechanics plans to work from) Did I mention you are doing a fantastic job?
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    Ed.....your doing a fantastic job on this build of the YA. I just want to let you know you are a super encourager and motivator for the skilled model making minded individual. Only one other example that I have found can equal or at least be near to your superb vessel is this fine reproduction. I thought I'd post this pic so as to demonstrate the near exactness to your own model. Amazing....both..no..all three are amazing. Rob
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    I hand carved a 1/96 scale Cutty Sark out of a 6x6 piece of redwood. I scaled up the hull from the smaller Revell model of the same. I then planked the carving. I made wood templates for the hull carving...similar to a shaped guage. It worked well and the redwood carved very easily. Rob
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    Fantastic work Bruce....How do you make, or where do you acquire your brass fittings...such as your davits/fixtures and windows. Very impressive for sure. I use a lot of HO scale train cast parts for my builds...they are easy to acquire. Rob
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    Ed, will your book be covering the rigging and masting or just the hull construction? Rob(I'm all over that book)
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    Just came across your build log...fantastic work and execution. I'll be following along. Great job. Rob
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    Fantastic Ed. It was always a mystery to me how the actual ship builders aligned their ribs so accurately. Images look good but how it got that way is the marvel. Great job..sir. Rob
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    Thanks for the update Ed........Great job! I've spend ample hours myself in historical study for my current builds and at a stop point as well. Again, thanks for this fine log. Rob
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    Was able to return to the Glory and I spent some time working on the port ratlines
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    Here is a better closeup of the new wooden deck for the Western Shore.
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    One of my dreams have come true today. I was able to go to the pyre site of the Glory of the Seas.....and at an extreme low tide..did indeed find the remains of my favorite clipper ship. I then excavated several portions of the iron pins used to fashion the timbers together(No timber survived). These iron pins were roughly 1.5" and some over 3ft long. I procured several portions..one crusted nearly fully and the rounded form head was barely visible. Being nearly 100 years old....they are brittle and after preservation I will mount them along with my model of the vessel. 8 years ago there was more to be found...she is nearly completely vanished from view and from memory. I saved my piece of the *Glory* and can't be any more excited. I have an actual piece of the Glory of the Seas and it will rest proudly and preserved with the model of her namesake. Rob(How many people can say that?)

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