rwiederrich

I think once you have done this....this will be the drawing I use to model my forecastle bulkhead.  Course, that won't happen till I get to that point in the build.
 
Rob

Notice the difference between Cyril Hume's forecastle and that of the one of this antique model............There is no windless...visible.

Is this antique model of Thermopylae....one you are speaking of?

Finished the skylight.  
 
Rob

I added the mahogany top    
 
Rob 

If you are simply furling the sail.....but these fellows are not furling just yet.  They need to get the large topsails unproductive.  And that means, pulling up the reef tackle and the sail, half way and, dropping the yard to impede its ability.  (This is done simultaneously). This causes the top half of the sail to fall over the bottom half.  Reducing its size. This action is done quickly, so strong gusts don't rip down the masting that is overloaded.  Once the sails size is reduced(hence) its force...then the entire sail was pulled up and furled to the yard.  It was a dangerous and arduous adventure, and it took a lot of men. This problem is exactly why they invented the *double* topsails.
 
Rob

I hope everyone is understanding the process of furling and reefing the topsail ?
The reef tackle is located on the side of the sail..bout midway.  These lines are pulled in and the sail is then partially furled up to the yard.  The head of the sail fall forward and is blocked by the mid reefing of the lower part of the sail.  As seen on the foremast, mainmast, mizzen topsails
This process was the precursor of the process of cutting the sail....the process that the Forbes and Howes double topsail designs accomplished.  
So prior to these advances....the single topsail was clewed up by the reef tackle to the yard, the sail is bent to.....permitting the top half of the sail to fall forward and reduce its effectiveness.
Then the crew furled the rest of the sail to the yard.
 
Rob

Something else is wrong.  She is flying a lower topsails.  Meaning she is rigged with double topsails.  she didn't have this Howes arrangement.  ????????
Or... some tricky re-rigging of her topsail to reduce its overall exposure, by clewing up her reef tackle.  This trick exposes the sail to extreme stress on the reef points on the edge of the sails and doesn't provide proper support along the length of the head of the sail at the yards jackstays.  Interesting depiction.
 
No wonder Forbes and subsequently Howes developed the double topsail.
 
4 yards per mast....interesting.  This would be a great way to depict my Staghound......with the sails just like this......
 
Rob

I like your representation.   Can’t wait to see the front Decor and windows
 
Rob

Wonderful work Vlad.  You are paying great attention to the nightsheads and the sterns qualities.  Super.
We definitely approach construction differently.  You stick more with the traditional approach...where I slap it together.
 
It's easy to imagine a technique or a way you wish to go or do...but then again actually translating that into reality can be the biggest challenge. (Either one doesn't know what they are doing, or they lack the necessary disciplined skill).
 
I've made so many mistakes and made far too many assumptions already.  But I plug away, knowing that a glue or paint or even smoke and mirrors will cover up my many trespasses.
 
I look forward to your planking and am excited to see your technique
 
(A Special Note:).......I chose the smaller scale, because within it, I can hide(mistakes), but I can also disguise details...or even omit some, without their lack of presence ever being noticed.  Your extremely large Cutty, did not afford you the option of (Omitting) any details.  this is probably the greatest reason why I cower behind a smaller scale.  I can convince myself I'm doing a good job, while excusing of my sins. 
 
You're doing a great job.
 
Rob

Vladimir....I recall when we first encountered and you had just begun or shortly begun your Cutty Sark build.   I was telling you of my passion for American clippers and especially for Donald McKay clippers.  You became enchanted as much as I .   I had initially begun my own study for my first build of Glory over 14 years ago and started the composite model in 2010.  It is amazing to me to see where it has all come.  I met Richard several years ago and he explained of his own passions for Glory.  It wasn't until Richard and I began a serious study of Glory when you brought your own talents of design and Cad ability to the table.
It probably wouldn't have happened as quickly and proficiently if we hadn't had the expertise of Mike Mjelde and his willingness to accommodate our desire to create the most accurate version of Glory that had been produced thus far.
 
Now we find ourselves at the beginnings of your own Glory build.  The results of a near year long compilation of many researchers and Glory historian buffs.  What a fantastic journey.   I can't wait.  I will be following this log with great anticipation.
 
I hope to be creating my own  build log of her soon myself.  We can bounce off one another on construction ideas and material uses.
 
I have already developed another clamping system and am planning on mods to the framing to accommodate more to scale entrance and exit dimensions.   Your participation in the fulfillment of this next build of Glory of the Seas cannot be underemphasized.  I appreciate your willingness to help myself and Rich in the acquisition of your fine scaled bulkhead frames.    It would be cool if someone like Nic of BlueJacket ship crafters would be interested in making Glory of the Seas a new addition to their fine line of finely crafter model kits.
 
And here we go.......
 
Rob

That is a unique way the pin rail for the mizzenmast is mounted on the inside of the aft rail.    Is that in the plan?
 
Rob

Finished the skylight.  
 
Rob

Finished the skylight.  
 
Rob

You need to take into consideration the scale of the men working the sails.  If the stirrups are too long the man will be far too low on the yard...and he needs to be able to lean over the yard or at least have the yard at his waist level.  Here are a couple of my scale crewmen for example.

Rob

Finished the skylight.  
 
Rob

Perfect Rich….looks spot on fantastic.   I needed the aft companion way measurements, cus it’s the next thing I’m building.  It will have a slanted roof and windows on the sides.   Kinda like that of Flying Clouds.  
 
Again, super job.  
 
Rob

Finished the skylight.  
 
Rob

I added the mahogany top    
 
Rob 

Just as a reminder....Staghound HAD a patent windless.  I suspect she actually had a full height forecastle.  Note what Campbell says about the full height forecastle....they were used when a patent windless was used....😲
 
 

I suspect her deck was flush with the monkey rail.....NOT the main rail.  Remember...no expense was too much.  McKay had an open checkbook from the owners.  This revelation changes a lot of things forward on her design.  She also had private heads/houses port and starboard as depicted. This particular drawing was a depiction for iron hulls...but to reconcile the patent windless, one needs to make adjustments.
 
Rob

This morning I began the 10ft main skylight. 
Just finished up the base of the light.   Onto the skycap.  
 
It may come to your attention that the light is a bit different than the drawing you made Rich.  That was for a 6ft light.  I have artistic license to produce a light that fits the bill.  It will still retain the same design.  
 
Rob

Just as a reminder....Staghound HAD a patent windless.  I suspect she actually had a full height forecastle.  Note what Campbell says about the full height forecastle....they were used when a patent windless was used....😲
 
 

Milling the corner pieces was very tricky.  I tooled up the stock and ran a section through the routing bit.  Those sections are less than 3/32”.  On both sides of the molding.  
 
I haven’t decided if I’ll add the brass glass guards yet.   Might be too crowded and clumsy in this scale.  
 
Rob

This morning I began the 10ft main skylight. 
Just finished up the base of the light.   Onto the skycap.  
 
It may come to your attention that the light is a bit different than the drawing you made Rich.  That was for a 6ft light.  I have artistic license to produce a light that fits the bill.  It will still retain the same design.  
 
Rob