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As far as I know, we have the only flyable B-17F left in the world. It was one of the planes used in making the Memphis Bell movie. It was painted as different planes on each side! I got to go on board her back in the mid 90s when my father-in-law came to visit and I took him to visit the restoration facility here in Everett. Back then they would do personal tours, escorting you through the planes being restored on a one-to-one basis. We were able to see all kinds of aircraft that they were working on and like the B-17 were able to go on board some of them. I don't think they do that kind of tour anymore, but they do offer a tour of the restoration hanger here in Everett WA. for about $5 per person. I suppose if you go in the winter on a weekday like we did it could still end up being a personal tour.

Actually I found the list last year for a problem OC was having. Finding it today in the place I had stored it on my computer was MUCH harder! I have a tendency to hoard information like I do models, and sometimes my file system can use a little cleaning up.

One of the hard parts of any model is how to display it when you are done. You have solved your problem in the perfect way for this model! Have you considered creating a lit star field in the black area?

They just finished refurbishing the real Memphis Bell and putting her up on static display. The pictures of the rebuild were amazing and it looks like she could fly. Too bad they didn't take her all the way.

These are RDA values for common toothpaste: 0-70= low abrasive, 70-100= medium abrasive, 100-150= highly abrasive, 150-250= regarded as harmful limit. RDA Values Toothpaste Brand and Variety Source 0 non-alcoholic mouthrinse (Biotene PBF(*Green Label), Act II Anticavity, Crest Pro-Health Complete, Oasis, Listerine Zero, Peridex, Peroxyl and water) Church & Dwight 7 straight baking soda (The Arm & Hammer Yellow Box) 8 Arm & Hammer Tooth Powder Church & Dwight 23 Biotene PBF Drymouth Toothpaste 25 Pronamel 30 KID’S TOOTH GEL STRAWBERRY-RASPBERRY (ph value: 7.0-7.5) Lavera 30 Elmex Sensitive Plus Elmex 42 Arm & Hammer Peroxicare Tartar Control Church & Dwight 42 Arm & Hammer Advance White Baking Soda Peroxide Church & Dwight 42 Arm & Hammer Peroxicare Regular Church & Dwight 45 Oxyfresh 44-53 Squigle Enamel Saver 49 Arm & Hammer Peroxicare Tartar Control Church & Dwight 49 Tom’s of Maine Sensitive (given as 40’s) Tom’s 53 Rembrandt Original (RDA) Rembrandt 53 CloSYS 57 Tom’s of Maine Children’s, Wintermint (given as mid-50’s) Tom’s 60 Boiron Homeodent Natural Toothpaste-Lemon Flavor 62 Supersmile Supersmile 62 Clinpro 5000 Fluoride Toothpaste 63 Rembrandt Mint (‘Heffernan RDA’) Rembrandt 63 Biotene Regular 68 Colgate Regular Colgate-Palmolive 70 Colgate Total Colgate-Palmolive 70 Arm & Hammer Advance White Sensitive Church & Dwight 70 Colgate 2-in-1 Fresh Mint (given as 50-70) Colgate-Palmolive 70-76 Squigle Tooth Builder 79 Sensodyne Colgate-Palmolive 80 AIM Unilever 80 Close-Up Unilever 83 Colgate Sensitive Maximum Strength Colgate-Palmolive 85 Biotene Sensitive 91 Aquafresh Sensitive Colgate-Palmolive 93 Tom’s of Maine Regular (given as high 80’s low 90’s) Squigle (Tom’s) 94 Rembrandt Plus Rembrandt 94 Plus White Indiana Study 95 Kid’s Crest 95 Crest Regular (possibly 99) P&G (P&G) 101 Natural White Indiana Study 103 Mentadent Squigle 104 Sensodyne Extra Whitening Colgate-Palmolive 104 Sensodyne Repair and Protect with Novamin (Purchased on Amazon.com) GSK Pharmaceuticals 106 Colgate Platinum Indiana Study 106 Arm & Hammer Advance White Paste Church & Dwight 107 Crest Sensitivity Protection Colgate-Palmolive 110 Colgate Herbal Colgate-Palmolive 110 Amway Glister (given as upper boundary) Patent US06174515 112 Prevident 5000 Booster 113 Aquafresh Whitening Indiana Study 117 Arm & Hammer Advance White Gel Church & Dwight 120 Close-Up with Baking Soda (canadian) Unilever 124 Colgate Whitening Indiana Study 130 Crest Extra Whitening with Scope Indiana Study 130 Crest Pro-Health with Scope (Crest for Me) Burt’s Bees, Inc. 133 Ultra brite (or 120-140) Colgate-Palmolive 144 Crest MultiCare Whitening P&G 145 Ultra brite Advanced Whitening Formula P&G 150 Pepsodent (given as upper bound) Unilever 165 Colgate Tartar Control (given as 155-165) Colgate-Palmolive 189 Crest Pro-Health P&G 200 Colgate 2-in-1 Tartar Control/Whitening or Icy Blast/Whitening (given as 190-200) Colgate-Palmolive 200 recommended limit FDA 250 recommended limit ADA

I saw the same thing with Puff's. We were close enough to not only see the solid red lines, (Almost no visible spaces) but to see the impact area TOTALLY disappear in a cloud of dust. I think the 53 would have been a great mini-gun platform. I wonder what they would have called it, Rotary Death?

Great job Craig. I assume that means the decals from the waterlogged kit worked.

In the older days before the solid gun mounts they would hold the M-60 Rambo style from a lanyard attached from the overhead. The Loach gunners still did it that way when I was in. I suppose it could have been this method. On our mounts we had a limit on the mount and also a tether attached to the barrel that would limit upward travel to below the rotor arc. Not really much chance of hitting the rotor. I have never seen it happen either. Even more amazing, my personal fear of being shot by a fellow gunner in another chopper never happened either. The story of shooting your own rotor could have also been a war story made up by the instructor to put the fear of God into the new recruits, I would not put it past him. When we were in basic training and being introduced to the M-16, the instructor held out a M-16 at arms length one handed like a pistol, and fired three fairly rapid shots at the 25M target to demonstrate how little recoil the M-16 had. He then retrieved the target and showed us three holes that could be covered by a .50 cent coin. I always thought that he had made those holes from three feet away before we got there and the three we watched him shoot never came close to the target.

I must admit, that yellow is quite striking Denis. I think there is little chance you will get this B-17 confused with any other build you may have in mind!

I am certain that some kind of perfect storm kind of thing could happen. Chopper is close to the ground, shotgun goes off right next to the pilots ear and startles him to the point that he pulls on the cyclic and tips the chopper enough to strike the ground with the rotor tip. Pretty certain that under those circumstances the chopper would become rice paddy decoration. Also pretty certain someone would get a bill from Uncle Sam after the Court Martial. I know of at least one instance where a door gunner hit the rotor of his own chopper with 7.56mm rounds. I was not there for the event so I have no idea how badly the blades were damaged but we were assured when we were told the story in training that he was no longer a door gunner. Shooting up your own chopper was generally considered a No No.

Huey blades are really strong! I have personally seen them cut through finger size branches at over 6000 RPM with little more damage than scuffing of the paint! The tips of the main rotor are moving at almost the speed of sound depending on altitude and ground speed. Bird-shot would be like sandblasting the finish. Double O Buck magnum or a sabot slug might have a better chance.

Like almost all aircraft, speed, maneuverability, and luck with a little bit of armor! That's strange about the rotor hit. I guess it might be where you were hit. We took blade hits a couple of times and didn't even know until we got back and did a post flight inspection.

I couldn't find any footage of Cobra's or Loach's working out for real but this is Ok as well in a few places.

Can you imagine the chaos and terror even one .50 would have done back then?

I am not certain of the exact number, but only about half of the framers of the Constitution were lawyers. The rest were merchantmen and land owner/farmers or entrepreneurs of one sort or another. Like ken said, many served in the Continental Army and several lost everything before it was all over. It was certainly a different time than today.

I suspect that if the Belle Poule had been fitted with a couple of .50s and enough ammo she would have been unbeatable in her time! They are a little expensive but you could have these by next week: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Verlinden-1-48-M2-Browning-50-Caliber-Heavy-Machine-Gun-4-pieces-Resin-2259/170589175368?hash=item27b7e83e48:g:Y-0AAOSwRLZT-n~5:sc:USPSFirstClass!98201!US!-1

I certainly do. I never got a ride in one, even as a passenger, but I did get to watch them work over an LZ more than once. They could turn on a dime and flip around so fast that the fuselage was higher than the rotor blades. Not quite inverted but close! They were like little Pit Bulls once they got a hold of you there was little chance of escape.

Remember Mark there is no such thing as hijacking here. This whole thing will go where it does without regret.

I thought you had ordered the .50s from France, but I also thought that was what you received the other day and were unhappy with. What did you order that when it arrived you were unhappy with the purchase?

So we have a couple of things in common Dave. Helicopter riding, and being stationed in the Cockroach, Tarantula, hurricane, pit of the world! I was fortunate enough to waste six months of my precious life stationed at Ft Sill! Do they have a "Good" season there? If so it didn't show up while I was there. Not all but many of the towns people had attitudes toward the military to match as well. There were "No Military" signs in a number of places in 68-69. I thought it was odd for a town that would dry up and disappear if it was not for the base! It was almost a blessing to get orders to ship out overseas! As for your inaugural helicopter ride, I'm sorry but like CDW I can't help but chuckle a little. If it makes you feel a little better I could tell you of at least three cases of "Pilot humor" where the intent was to scare the livings daylights out of the passenger(s). In one case the targets were pilots themselves! It is fairly certain that the pilots could not hear you, but there is little doubt they were getting a blow by blow account from the crew in back who were "watching over" your welfare.😈

Another thing that came to mind, (Feeble as it is any more) is that at least in the case of our blades, they were not really all that flat in color at least not when new. They were really a kind of satin black when new and kind of went dark gray/black with age and developed a gray/silver lead edge where the paint was worn entirely. We also painted one blade white on top so that it was easier to see from another helicopter flying in close formation.

I don't think things have changed all that much when it comes to people like that Craig. They take offence at ANYONE who does not share their cause AND in the intensity of their feelings. To them there are really no innocent bystanders. It is not enough to agree with them, you are ether protesting with them or you are the enemy. At least that is my take on it. I always thought it odd that the protesters could become so violent so quickly and do so much damage in the name of "Peace", yet we who only served were the danger to the world we returned to.

Were you using new paint for the rotors or older paint Mark. If it was old possibly all you need to do is mix it up a little better. Those stats and videos are something else! Here are the stats on the Huey: Specifications (UH-1D) General characteristics Crew: 1–4 Capacity: 3,880 lb (1,760 kg) including 14 troops, or 6 stretchers, or equivalent cargo Length: 57 ft 1 in (17.40 m) with rotors Width: 8 ft 7 in (2.62 m) (Fuselage) Height: 14 ft 5 in (4.39 m) Empty weight: 5,215 lb (2,365 kg) Gross weight: 9,040 lb (4,100 kg) Max takeoff weight: 9,500 lb (4,309 kg) Powerplant: 1 × Lycoming T53-L-11 turboshaft, 1,100 shp (820 kW) Main rotor diameter: 48 ft 0 in (14.63 m) Performance Maximum speed: 135 mph (220 km/h, 117 kn) Cruise speed: 125 mph (205 km/h, 109 kn) Range: 315 mi (510 km, 274 nmi) Service ceiling: 19,390 ft (5,910 m) dependent on factors such as weight, air temperature, etc Rate of climb: 1,755 ft/min (8.9 m/s) Power/mass: 0.15 hp/lb (0.25 kW/kg) There is not even a comparison anywhere you look It's like comparing the Captains Gig to the New Jersey! I loved flying and don't normally get nervous no matter what, but watching those videos of the CH-53 doing acrobatics made my hair stand up. Not so much the barrel roles but the loops! The strain on the main rotor must have been massive! If I had been on board I think it would have required a uniform change after that kind of flight. The most maneuverable helicopters I ever saw were Cobra's and Cayuses with a close third by Loaches. I never saw any of them do anything like that!

WOW what did they do? It looks like they thought it was some kind of novel submarine and wanted to see if it would float across the parking lot to the vehicle! I have seen some pretty roughly treated packages over the years but I think this is the first drowned one. Hope your decals survived!

You mean you didn't make your own rope as well!!!!! Shame on you. This build became very impressive a long time ago, now it is becoming a little jewel! One would never guess it's humble beginnings.