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Ab Hoving

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  1. I will certainly come and have a look. Won't show my own efforts this time, just curious what beauties will be presented by you and the other participants.
  2. I love this thread. I think it is great how you advance step by step, tearing off what appears to be wrong, getting forward, literally by touch. This is how a reconstruction project should be done. Chapeau Patrick!
  3. Great work Ondras. Both your patience and your techniques are miraculous.
  4. I can assure you, having personally witnessed the careful way the ship was built, that after the yard has left the premises at the end of this summer, not a trace of plastic waste will be left there. Ter Velde is a most conscientious man.
  5. There is a series of short picture taken during construction of the vessel. Try this one: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCoM7AwBpef06reSlvJj-s4g
  6. It seems a nice addition to this thread to present the launch of a full size pleasure vessel after Witsen's data, built in the shell-first way, not out of wood, but out of waste plastic. The builder, Edwin ter Velde, has three aims: prove that used plastic is good material to be re-used, get people 'with a distance to the labor market' back to the production process and do research into original Dutch building methods. He started off (after an adventure with a vehicle he constructed out of waste plastic, driving around on the Antarctic ice bed without other fuel than solar electricity) with small sloops, is finishing Witsen's pleasure vessel now and plans to build a full-size fluit (100 feet) next year in the city of Zaandam, North of Amsterdam. VID-20250708-WA0001.mp4 Visit his site: https://www.clean2a.com
  7. I don't think the length of the spreader yard is much of a problem. It is carried by the topsail. The pendant which is attached to the spreader yard is so long that it hangs loosely when the sail is in use. It only carries the yard if the sail is not hoisted. If you would consider to make another topsail (which would add to the atmosphere of the model, but is of course not necessary) you would see that the 'hollow' lower side of the sail goes much higher up, to avoid chafing with the halliard of the jib. With a yard hanging as low as on the model, very little of the surface of the sail remains.
  8. To end this thread here Emiel's display of 'an English seascape' Thank you for your attention.
  9. You did well on this model. But I have some small remarks on the side on this topsail if you allow me: The sheave of the halliard was placed inside the topmast and was situated much higher up, which caused the topsail to be much longer. And I miss the 8-shaped iron brace that kept the topyard close to the topmast. It was loosely situated around the topmast and stayed up, even if the sail was hauled down on deck: I hope this sketch clarifies it.
  10. sorry for not replying your question. I just stumbled into this thread. It is correct that if there is no need to climb the mast, ratlines were omitted. On the other hand, I have seen lots of statenjacht models having them. I think that is a misconception, caused by the English yachts. For some unclear reason the English used lifts, sheets and braces for their topsail. In Holland the tradition was that the topsail was carried 'flying', which means that it was hauled on deck if not in use. The lower corners of the sail carried blocks, through which ropes ran, attached to the tips of the lower yard. They served as braces and sheets at the same time. Lifts were not necessary. The lower yard was carried by the topsail. If it was not in use, the yard was stowed upright against the mast, carried by a pendant, long enough to bring the lower tip of the yard within reach from the deck. Thus ratlines were not necessary. But of course it's your choice to apply them.
  11. Thank you for all the likes. Many thanks for @Baker, @druxey, @wefalck, @GrandpaPhil, @ccoyle and @Michael Mash for their positive response. Too much honor. @wefalck: the crew was made by my friend Herbert Tomesen's company, which is specializing nowadays in making all sorts of human figures, using 3D photography. The firm hires re-enactment groups of people who are dressed in the appropriate clothing and can be delivered in any wanted pose or stand. Usually the scale is 1/87 (HO), but 1/72, 1/120, 1/160 and 1/220 are also available. For me he simply prints them at my 1/77 scale, but I am not sure he can do that for everyone... This is his site, the artwork is done by my son Emiel: https://www.artitecshop.com/nl/figuren/
  12. I finished the yacht last month. Here is the result: The model is exhibited below the drawing hanging on the wall in my living room: Emiel tried to match the pictures he took with the drawing. It looks as if I was not far off: Once he is finished with his photoshop painting I will present the result.
  13. Thanks to all the people who liked the model and especially of course to @flying_dutchman2, @Michael Mash, @dvm27 and @druxey for their comforting words. Much appreciated. Druxey: The funny thing about the rigging is that Charles II was transported from Breda to Scheveningen in a group of several yachts with spritsail rigging. The Mary, which that was sent to him as a present from the Dutch however sported a standing gaff rigging. From what I saw on pictures the English type of this rig differed from the Dutch in for instance the topsail, having no braces and lifts. It was just a flying sail, only having blocks at the lower tips, through which ropes from the lower yard were led and sometimes, but not always bowlines leading to end of the bowsprit. The sail was stored on deck until it was needed and hoisted with a halliard that ran through a sheave in the top of the mast and through a loose 8-shaped shackle around the top. The lower yard was stowed upright against the mast if not in use. In that case it hangs on a long pendant. The fact that this square rigged sail was handled on deck was the reason why Dutch yachts did not have ratlines on the shrouds. There were more differences about which perhaps another time...
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