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Ab Hoving replied to Ab Hoving's topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1501 - 1750
I use only very cheap materials: boxes from frozen pizzas, shoeboxes and such. Paper for water color painting is not particularly smooth, so it can't be used because of its rough surface and its more or less spongy material. But indeed, the model I restored was done with leftovers, donated by a Rijksmuseum Prentencabinet colleague conservator. At least 200 years old remains of restorations. Such paper was hand made out of rags, in a paper mill. Smooth as a baby skin. I doubt if such paper still exists. It could be cut to very tiny threads and still did not fall apart or delaminated. And not a sign of aging. Wonderful stuff. Is it a problem that paper models don't last for ages? Not for me. I have seen too many wrecked wooden and metal models. Nothing lasts, we ourselves certainly not. Why worry? Just enjoy seeing a model grow in your hands... -
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I once restored a paper model from 1830. But paper was a whole different material in those days. There was no wood in it, so it lasted very long. -
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Slow progress. Painting is tedious if you have to wait until it has all dried. Fortunately there are other things I can do in the times between, but life intervenes. Have to find more time (or more excuses to take time to build). Before gilding the beak head I use yellow paint underneath. Compared to the Dutch yachts the gilding is outrageous. Of course it's a matter of taste, but I think more failures can be masked with multicolored painting than by gilding alone. We will see if it all works out. -
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Ab Hoving replied to Ab Hoving's topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1501 - 1750
Hallo Eberhardt, I agree. Indeed the Elder did the pen-paintings, his son painted in oil paint. Rumor has it that the Elder was not a guild member and was therefore not allowed to make paintings. I don't know if that is true. Later, after father and son moved to England in 1672 the father tried his hand on some paintings too, but without the excellence his son showed. The Elder witnessed several sea battles, but that the son also worked from nature can (among other proofs) be seen on my sketch from his hand. Yes, working with paper is unbelievably fast compared with other materials. Probably the models won't last as long, but that is not my problem. I enjoy seeing them in the state I make them. It fits my sloppy nature.... -
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Ab Hoving replied to Ab Hoving's topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1501 - 1750
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Ab Hoving replied to Ab Hoving's topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1501 - 1750
Just like you said: I get them. I help a befriended art dealer with some explanatory texts and information on his maritime paintings, and sometimes he finds things that are not very profitable as merchandise, but gold in the hands of fools like me. He understands my madness. Earlier he donated a beautiful life-size copy of a Van de Velde grisaille, which hangs in my living now. -
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Come on Jan, this is pottery compared with your Sovereign of the Seas. You can do better with two fingers in your nose. 🙂 -
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Ab Hoving replied to Ab Hoving's topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1501 - 1750
Slow progress, mainly as a result of long drying times of paint. But at least we are getting an impression of how it might develop. Still a lot of mistakes and untidinesses to hide... I had some real gold leave left so I try to use it for this model. -
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Ab Hoving replied to Ab Hoving's topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1501 - 1750
In the thread 'What did you receive today' I reported the arrival of my own Willem van de Velde drawing. I realise that the picture was rather misty: So with the help of my son and his computer tricks we created a clearer picture in which all the pencil lines are easy to distinguish: So now we can see exactly what was drawn and we can admire the incredible technique of the artist in picturing a recognizable ship type in only a few lines. It almost looks like a handwriting. I also own two small rubb-offs made by the same artist. Also very unclear. With the same technique we can now see exactly was was drawn. A rubb-off is a sort of a tissue paper, that was laid over drawings freshly made with a silverpoint, an early lead pencil, to prevent the lines to be smeared out over the drawing. The result is a slightly lighter drawing in mirror image. I own two of them, donated by the same art dealer: Van de Velde obviously made such sketches from nature, to be used for details in his paintings. I cherish them. -
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Ab Hoving replied to Ab Hoving's topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1501 - 1750
Ten days ago I started this model with little more than an original design drawing and some pictures of other models. The hull (overall length 33 cm) is ready for painting now. As you can see most of the untidy 'loose ends' have been cured and I made some progress in planning what the model will look once it is finished. I never make models of actual ships, I just show the type and that seems to be a lucky decision here, because of all the models I saw I can only say that none of them is similar to the others. That gives a lot of freedom, which is exactly how I like it. The stern I (temporarily) added is just a first stage one. I will find out how to make it acceptable. The lining of the hull planks look better in reality than in the grazing light available when I made the pictures. Choices have been made. I chose for a front bulkhead instead of hull planking up to the stem post. The bowsprit will not rest on top of the stem post, but beside it. The panels for the inside of the bulwarks have already been painted red and will be glued in as soon as the decks are painted. I will have to make a stand now, so I can draw the waterline, after which the usual painting of the outside will be done. A lot of time will pass while the paint is drying, which gives me the opportunity to make all sorts of details for both the inside and the outside of the model. I'll keep you posted. -
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Ab Hoving replied to Ab Hoving's topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1501 - 1750
There is a world of difference between the two. The Dutch shape is very full, almost square, the English one was sharp: The Dutch shape was meant to push the water under the hull and slide over it, 'like a duck's breast', the English shape really cuts the water. No doubt much faster, still originally derived from the Dutch example, which was presented to Charles II by an Amsterdam lord mayor in 1660. It did not stop Charles to start the Anglo-Dutch wars. The English master shipwrights made a beautiful 'translation' of the Dutch example. -
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Ab Hoving replied to Ab Hoving's topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1501 - 1750
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Ab Hoving replied to Ab Hoving's topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1501 - 1750
I started planking the upper strakes with c-d-fix self adhesive latex. The top planking will have to be covered with carvings, so that is for later. Things are going real fast now. Covering up all the mistakes I made in previous phases. Glueing on the covering boards is a start for a neat finish. -
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Ab Hoving replied to Ab Hoving's topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1501 - 1750
The longitudinal planks are glued on, they needed some sanding, which makes them a bit furry. I use shellac to mend that. Some filler here and there is also necessary. That's how it goes building from scratch.... The inside of the bulwarks is stiffened with an extra layer of card and the outside is planked. I work about six hours a day and I think for a small ship like this one a week should be enough to roughly finish the hull. But then the deck furniture and the decorations follow, not to mention the rigging. Still a long way to go.... -
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Ab Hoving replied to Ab Hoving's topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1501 - 1750
Thank you Patrick, most helpful. Don't pick up my wrong habits. 🙂
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