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Banyan, after reading how Rob drilled all tiny holes for belaying pins after the pinrail was installed, it's my belief that he will do the same for these larger chainplate channels. -
Rob, I love the way even your channels are sculptured instead of just plain blocks. It enhances the vessel's overall elegance.
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Rob, that makes sense, is there a specific formula to determine the gore line, possibly based on length vs depth?
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George K, I like your clever approach setting up a jig & using a pizza cutter to simulate the ends of each copper tile. Your beautiful results speak for themselves. I'm curious about another nautical term that I'm unfamiliar with. It appears your yellow Tamiya tape is well below the Waterline. My guess is that it represents the "gore" line. What exactly is the significance of the gore line?
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Rob, that's my ultimate hope too, although he's right now apparently very committed to Ron Haug. More likely if anything, our collected input might steer Ron more towards the finished lines we have developed. Where I feel our efforts have been unique, besides being a true collaboration, is that for once, Michael Mejelde's lifelong collection of amazingly detailed pictures have been fully evaluated and then reconciled with actual 1869 published dimensions in order to arrive at a coherent whole. I am very proud of our results and both your vessel and Vladimir's are bearing out our research, as even Mike is impressed with the few in process images I've shared with him.
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Dowmer, thanks for the tip! I was hoping that's the case but I wasn't sure. I will contact my local Staples to get their rates.
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Vladimir I am deeply honored by that generous comment. I will see if it's possible to it scanned in order to print it out on one continuous sheet. Since it's practically 3' it will be interesting to see if such size poster prints are available. I'll let you know what I find out.
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Rob, I think that highlights your true capabilities as an artisan. Make use of all available resources to complete a project; creating particulars when necessary.
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Rob, when you can make use of well produced nautical materials to make your project easier, why not?
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Rob, Vladimir here's more particulars on this 1:96th scale (1/8" = 1') ship's line drawing of "GLORY of the SEAS". Due to the need to fold the paper for storage, there are multiple wrinkles which make the image appear inaccurate. All keel and waterlines are arrow straight, as a ruler was used to draw them. The same goes for all 3 masts which have identical angles and also have been sketched with a straightedge. Special attention has been focused on keeping all published & calculated dimensions accurate throughout "GLORY of the SEAS" dimensions as taken from publicized resources: Keel: 240'3" Length between Perpendiculars: 250' Length, Knightheads to Taffrail: 265' Sheer: 7' Yellow Metal Sheathed up to: 22' Bowsprit in board of Cap: 24' Bowsprit width: 34" Jibboom & Flying Jibboom outside Cap: 15' & 16' (5' end as per other McKay vessels) estimated width: 20" Grecian Goddess Figurehead: 90" Naval Hoods: 17 1/2' long with widest area at base: 3 1/2' Forecastle Deck: 35' Foremast Width: 40" House Abaft Foremast: 54' long × 18' wide × 8'3" high Loading Dock: 2'2" high × 3' wide, located 3' 9 1/2" below sheerline molding. Hull is 17' 4" above waterline at this point. Lowest level of Hull at sheerline, centered in mainshrouds: 17' Mainmast Width: 41" Mizzenmast Width: 32" Poop Deck length: 70' Rear Carriage House: 35' (plus 3' overhang) × 24' wide × 8' high Rear Wheelhouse estimated: 12' long × 10' wide × 8' high.
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Rob, Vladimir, here's what I consider my final rendering of the Hull of "GLORY of the SEAS". Michael Mjelde has requested I send him a copy once it's done. So once more, I ask for your feedback before it's transmitted to him (which I sincerely hope will get sent to Ron Haug to restart a conversation about his interpretation vs mine).
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Rob, as usual your installation of the pin rails is remarkably clean and done in incredibly short time. From the consistency, is it safe to assume that the belaying pins are of a mass produced variety or did you also craft them yourself, because they are wonderfully detailed for being so tiny.
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Vladimir it's your baby, your project. Go at whatever pace you feel most comfortable at. By the way, enclosing the fancy rail at the Bow looks very clean. Completing that process across the rest of your vessel will be enough to keep you occupied for a while too.
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Vladimir from what I can tell, the entire sheerline is black. As I've said before, only from her 1869 PEM scene of GLORY on the Ways, it does appear like the carved arch work of the Naval Hoods could be gold embellished, which would echo that of the carved arch on the Cutwater below. If you decide to get your figurehead 3D printed, remind them that there's an actual hole created between 'Athene' herself and her flowing toga behind her. It's clearly visible in the Port view. While subtile it's also there in the Starboard one. Most dramatic is the Port silhouette I shared earlier today with Rob.
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Rob, as long as meticulous accuracy is our mutual goal, we are all benefactors of our collaboration. I appreciate your deference but it's not to me personally as it's more to the clarity of the wondrous documents Michael Mjelde has shared with us. I also note that your correction of my sketches made for a better proportioned figurehead too.
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Rob, as I look down the long, long length of Glory's 250 foot deck, even in scale it's impressive how truly large this vessel was. It would be really fascinating to see a comparison of your 1:96th scale original "Cutty Sark" with your finished "GLORY of the SEAS" in the same scale. I'm now positive she will completely dwarf the Scottish lovely.
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Rob, there's a clear gap between 'Athene's' hair bun at the back of her head and the tip of the Naval Hoods. As far as that tip is concerned, it appears to end at the inside edge of iron band #3, then there's a space where you can clearly see the remaining fragment of her right hand grasping her toga, then her black painted hair bun. As far as I can tell her forehead aligns midway between bands #3 & #4.
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Vladimir, just remember that the tip of Glory's Naval Hoods ends right at Bowsprit Band #3 (#4 if you count the sole band which encircles both Jibboom above & Bowsprit below). Her Grecian Goddess 'Athene' aligns precisely midway between bands #3 & #4 which go around the lower Bowsprit only.
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Rob, as soon as I saw your latest profile, it reminded me of an actual profile of Glory herself taken from almost exactly the same angle. I thought you would find this comparison..... fascinating.
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Druxey, you still have one of the nicest line drawings I've seen of Glory's lovely figurehead, which I just reposted for Vlad. Size difference would be to your favor as the $8k statue is 8" tall whereas Vlad only needs one that's 1 1/4" tall.
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Rob, Right arm's been redone and resubmitted for front and left side views. Pass muster now?
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Vladimir, thanks for the kind compliment. That's what over a dozen years of obsessing on a single lovely figurehead can do for you! 🙂
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Vladimir, if you want to create a 3-D figurehead, we now have enough photo angles to accomplish it fairly accurately. The biggest challenge is her missing right arm. Even the restored one isn't the original.
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Vladimir & Rob, per Rob's astute observation, here's the revised images of Glory's figurehead with revised right arm. Let me know what you think.
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Rob, I see what you mean, especially for the front view. I think the left side looks ok but how do those others look to you?
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