Emmet
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Your detail is fantastic. I surely learned something there. I guess one has to use drop planks for this build-something for me to remember. I just got Amati's Santa Maria kit and it seems like a much better kit than the La Nina. I am just checking out all of the materials. I will start when I get to Jersey.
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Great! It makes me look much harder at your work. You had me looking up the word truss on ships. Yes the Egyptians started using rope trusses-smart dudes they were. It had to do with the boat riding over waves and not breaking in half. I will be giving that a harder read later. https://nautarch.tamu.edu/class/316/dashur/ and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truss I was looking for those wooden eyes and realize you probably have not installed any yet. I was thinking I mentioned 3 mm but afterward I thought that would be an awfully large rope. Even 1 mm seems large to a scale of 1:75-but perhaps 3" (American) is not too big for a rope truss. My brain has trouble with big dimensions in MM.
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Thanks for the details. It will be a great help this summer when I get the Victory. Boy those blocks are really tiny! Are the lines 3 or so mm?
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I clearly like the way it is going for you. We leave Friday for Jersey. We are stopping at a friend's house where we can keep our distance. Then our plan is to drive straight through to New Jersey to stop at our New Jersey house. It is about 950 miles (1520 ks). My Admiral has to see a doctor on a very important issue and then we continue on to New Hampshire where it is rural and distancing is natural. We will go back to Jersey during the Summer to see doctors (hopefully the virus clears by that time). I am glad I finally got a clear picture of how to go about this. I assume you are using PVA glue. The only thing I am concerned about is applying glue to 3 mm and 1.5 mm surfaces on the Santa Maria that I just received. At home I will have more access to ways of planing the planks. I will also be able to make more jigs. I will try my best to not bother you too much. You are a friend Thanks
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This is great work Keith. The devil is in the details.
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OK Thanks Keith Do you then dry them on the ship and glue later? Would you mind telling me what kind of glue and how you apply the planks? I am just now realizing how to look at other people's builds. Up to now I used a the wooden ships directory but that often did not have much for given listing.
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Thanks Clearway. I am also going to buy balsa and basswood when I order Victory Trafalgar. The value seems to be there and I could have used some for a small boat during this build (they supplied a metal one.) By the time I realized it the woods were out of stock everywhere with the virus thing.
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Thank you very much. I enjoyed every minute but having to make my own tiller, after breaking it, was absolutely hilarious.
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Thanks for looking in on me.
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Thanks Snowy. I appreciate your input.
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You are moving along in good fashion. All this work will definitely make your second planking better. Now for my questions: Since the frames are big it is easy to join plank sections. Will this be the same for the 2nd planking? You said you are leaving the planks to dry on the hull. Are you just soaking to make the bends on the stern? So you are not using a plank bender at all. I keep wondering how the stealers will look on the 2nd planking. I will be watching to see how you fill the spaces on the bow. I am gong to be looking at Bertu's log. I like the example he showed on your site.
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Thanks to all of you. It is good to hear from everybody. I was wondering how you get help as you build. I had virtually no one look at my build. I figured it was because the ship was little and uninteresting. It was OK with me as I have done a lot of things in life without interaction. Still the website was great. It helped me a great deal to view other builders. My thanks to Lazy Saint for telling me about using a scale that did not have tiny pieces. Also Rob and Clearway have given many useful ideas. Thanks to all.
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Thank you very much! And now back to planking with planning taking a lot of time. This Friday we are going to try to get from Florida to New Hampshire via another house we have in New Jersey. I do know I will be ordering from Cornwall.
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This is Emmet. I am finished with La Nna. I will be starting Santa Maria soon. Have to get home.
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No need to reply. i just wanted to let you know that people like me learn a lot from small steps you are showing. I will be watching your progress. Talk about time I spent about two hours making a broken tiller for La Nina's rudder. I had to abandon a few efforts that wee not working.
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Cool-I should have bought different wood for the gunwales on La Nina. I had a hell of a struggle bending them to fit correctly. I found the Mantua Victory on Page 6. Cornwall has quite a few in my size. I am just now bookmarking all the ones that look interesting. Appreciate your input Emmet
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This is Emmet. I live in New Hampshire but am in Florida now-stuck here with the Covid beast. I will buy from Cornwall and I have to spend some time understanding what an ace means by buying extra wood. The actual cost is not a big deal. I save money building ships. I cannot fit a 54" boat in my building spot. I am looking at the 44" as a max. Thanks for your ideas and guidance. I decided to build ships to fill my time now that I am not able to do too much physically. I did not realize this was such a huge hobby with so many talented people. The virus thing came along to make it more interesting. Work like yours is inspiring. I enjoy researching everything about the subject. While I am in the process of finishing La Nina I am in no hurry. I am not overly impressed with La Nina but it was still very satisfying and worthwhile. Currently I am possessed with rigging and it calls for imagining how the actual sailors did it. I am trying to figure out how they could work on the quarter deck because it had to be overloaded with ropes. I am rigging the ropes as though the sails would always be up. Otherwise it would be a complete mess. PIctures do not show all of the mistakes I have made. Some I could fix while others had to stand. Move on the next ship.
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Thanks I have ordered Santa Maria and waiting on delivery. My interest besides getting started on ships was the historical significance.
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It's great that you are showing the details of your actions. I will be watching as this develops.
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I think it was you who mentioned Cornwall. That seems to be a good lead, especially that they have a number of ships in my size category. and the prices are certainly good.
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Thank you Polls are one thing but input from builders is more important. If the poll does anything it does tell me which kits are bought more. The confusing part is the differences in the kits. Are the parts all there? Do they have a lot of pictures and good scale drawings? Are the numbered parts shown on the contents. E. G. My Amati kit on La Nina had instructions mentioning parts but most of the parts had no numbers. The pictures and drawings were good and in, most cases, I could overcome the situation. But when I was beginning my first ship it was confusing. I wound up putting the wrong planks on the deck and had to go out and buy more of them. I attribute that to my inexperience-that is part of learning. I am awaiting the arrival of another Amati kit-the Santa Maria.
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I have "Anatomy of ships" by John Mckay-bought 2nd hand. I have only looked through at this time. I bought "Historic Ship MOdels" by Wolfram Zu Mondfeld. Again I have just skimmed but I learned a lot of terminology with it. Kindle books-Rigging by Lennarth Petersson, "The Ship Model Builders Assistant" by Charles G. Davis. All of these I found within this website while looking at every log in the 'Wooden Ships .pdf' on this website. Since I knew virtually nothing about model ships I had to try to learn what I can. Learning by doing, however, has the greatest value. I have enjyed the challenge of it all and input from folks like yourself make it fun.
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Thanks Good thinking. It is those factors that I am in the process of understanding. Emmet
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Good idea once I get a proper grasp of the various kits involved. At this point I am trying to understand the reason for vast price differences. While some might shoot for a price markup there is probably more about details of the kit contents. Reviewing the various logs helps but most are like me-they just accept what they do not like and figure out how to solve it. Caldercraft sounds like an interesting choice but so far their kits are about 50" and I would prefer something about 36". I have quite a bit of time to choose and I will keep working at it. Thanks for your help.
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I am building the Santa Maria as my next ship. I will use that for my traveling ship. At home in NH I intend to build the Victory. While I realize it is difficult I am 82 years old and will give it a shot. Besides with guys like you around I have a lot of help. Thanks for your ideas-I appreciate it.
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