I wonder what is the best method to fix mettallic seamen figurines in ship model's shrouds.

What is your opinion about this subject ?

Thanks

Mike

Hi Guys,

I thank you for your answers.

Yes Allanyed I speak of these boat instrument which is still very useful on any boat or ship.

I wanted to be sure that to fit a 1850 schooner with that instrument was not a chronological mistake.

Clearly not

Mike

I wonder if a seaman on an American schooner, in 1830-1850, could use a boathook ?

Thanks for your answer.

Mike

Ça va bien , merci !

Thanks for data about boltropes size.

 I wonder what was the width of seams ? I have read one inch and also two inches ?

What advices would you give to a beginner who puts into practice Antscherl process for the first time ?

I plan to start my task with the Flying Jib which seems more easy to make than square sails. As my American Baltimore schooner kit don't really include sails drawing, do you know the specificities to observe for that jib ( for exemple ratio between sides...) ? On the other hand, on the attached pictures, we saw the Flying jib placed at the bottom of the stay for one and placed in the middle of the stay for the other. Do you know why ?

Mike

Hi Allen,

I have read your Boothbay 65 Schooner text. I find it very interesting.

I believe to understand that what you call "plug" is what Antscherl call "insert". Is it right ?

About 1820-1850, what was the width of each sail canvas strip on American schooners. In others words, what was the distance between two seams ?

Mike

I think I understood that during some phases of Antscherl process, the "insert" must be in its place and during other phases it must be pulled out.

Do you validate this statement ? In the affirmative, can you tell which are the phases durign which the insert must be pulled out ?

On the other hand, with a scale of 1/50, using silkspan for making sails, what should be the thread diameter employed for boltrope ?

In advance thank you

Mike

Thanks to you, little by little I am progressing in sail making...

In real world, I wonder what was the ratio between the sail canvas thickness ant the boltrope diameter ?

And I wonder if Jibs had or not boltrope on the 3 sides ?

About the frame making, I have difficulties to understand why the empty volume inside the frame is filled by an element called "insert", you might as well use a board .

Mike

Thank you for the answers.

In regards to sails colour, the schooner I have built is an American Baltimore 1820 schooner. Does this information determine precisely a colour shade, rather white, rather straw, rather umber ?

I own the little book writen by Antscherl about sail making and some points are not clear for me :

- Which material is used for the "insert" which support the silkspan in the frame ?

- I am astonished to use white paint to imitate the seams, I would rather have used a dark shade...

- Maybe I don't translate well, by I do not understand very well how are the boltropes tied to the sail. On this subject, I would like to know what you think of the method presented in the following video : https://www.lauckstreetshipyard.com/post/2017/05/12/making-silkspan-sails ?

Waiting to read you

Mike

I plan to make a test of making a sail.

I have choosen silkspan as material and to start, several questions come to mind about the process :

- Is it essential to use a wood frame to work on the silkspan sample ?

- How to obtain the right color to favor realism of the sails (US schooner 1820), it was certainly not white, which are the colors to mix ?

- Is it the right method to refold the edges of the sail on a rope to strengthen them and thus create head, tack and clew eyes ?

I thank you for the advices

Mike

I thank you for your advices.

Finally I have ordered some Amati crew figures (h = 32mm) and I ask myself how to stabilize and fix them on the desk. Have you an idea on this subject ?

May be is it necessary to use a little rod inserted in desk and figure both ?

I take this message to thank all Model Ship World members who have given to me advices and so have helped me to build a Baltimore Schooner.

Being a neophyte, I could not have built this model without their patience and kindness. I am very grateful to them.

Mike from France

I would like to put some sailor figures (scale 1/50) on rat-lines and also on the desk of my 1820 schooner model.

Where could I find the figures which will allow me to accomplish  that ?

Thanks

Mike

I  have bought the Sail making Seawatch book and finally i have found in France a product called "Papier Japon" on this website :

https://www.cmbmodelisme.fr/boutique/fp1883/PAPIER,JAPON,BLANC,19g,m².html

which is used usually for light modelplane canvas covering.

Mike

Allanyed,

Does the Seawatch Book you cite provide informations about tissue-paper choice (brand, weight, color...) ?

Mike

Yes, i have discover this process in this post :

By Bruma,
August 12, 2020 in - Kit build logs for subjects built from 1851 - 1900

 

and i think that it is a good idea. Hence my question about the metallic rod diameter.

Mike

Concerning the metallic rods which surround the sails, I believe that their role is very important to keep the shape memory.

For brass, by example, what is the good rod's diameter to supply the necessary stiffness to the whole sail (0,4 mm) ?

Mike

Kondzik,

I admire your work, particularly the modelspan sails of your Allege d'Arles.

Can you tell me if you have used metal wire (brass ?) on the exterior outline of the sail hided in the hem ?

Which diameter have you choosen for these metallic rods ?

I thank you for the advices.

Mike

In France I can find modelspan 12g/m2 or 21 g/m2.

Mike

Thank you.

Do you know which is the good modelspan weight/length level for sails making because often modelspan is sold in two weights : light and normal ?

Mike

I am French and i have difficulties to translate the word Silkspan.

On French model airplane website i have found one products which could be equivalent. It is called "Pongée de Soie" in French. The description mentions that this product "waves in the wind".

https://www.123crea.eu/fr/ponge/240-soie-ponge.html

This product is available in different weights/length unit (g/m).

Do you think that this product is the same that the one you call Silkspan ?

Which weight is better for modelship sails ?

I thank you for the advices

Mike

Roger,

How is fixed the upper side of your display ?

Mike

I should want to know how to fix display glass wall in grooved wood rods.

I thank you for the advices.

Mike

In fact, using a thinner thread fix the problem of knots tightening.

Thank you

Mike

I am working 1/50 scale and my ratline thread is 0,40 mm.

Maybe is it too thick (20 mm in real world)

Mike

This is what I get. It is not very satisfied ...

What is wrong ?

Mike

Amateur,

Which knot did you use on first/last shroud ?

Mike