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Thanks my friend. I just could not get my head around anchor buoys. I had never heard that term or seen such a thing. When I looked at your anchor rigging picture I was seeing three different rigging features used to hold the anchor up horizontal. The “cat stoopper”, shank painter chain, and this unnamed white rope seized and wrapped around the end. It looked as if it lead up to the channel and tied there maybe to help support that end of the anchor. Even though you had described it earlier it just was not clicking in my old brain that line was not helping to support the anchor. It was simply running up to and attached to the anchor buoy. Appreciate your patience.
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Ian after reading #1419 over and over again I think I finally understand 😊 That anchor buoy is what the lashing on the anchor is. When the anchor is pulled up the rope is coiled and hung on the shrouds. So am I correct to understand that when the anchor was dropped the buoy was dropped with it and floated on top the water to show where the anchor was? If so I understand now after studying your pictures and text. I definitely apologize for being so dense. 😀 So I would not add that lashing on the anchor unless I plan to add the buoy as well?
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Thanks Ian. Still can’t figure out where the end of the line you have wrapped around the end of the anchor goes. Does it just tie to the channel? I looked back to #1419 and remember now you explained the chain there. I really must apologize for repeating my question.
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Ian n this picture of your anchor where is that white rope that is wrapped around the business end f the anchor going? It looks like it goes up to a block then maybe reeves through it down to another at the channel maybe? I have the first part of the anchor rigging done, I think, but not sure about the rest. Also looks as if there is a chain as well.
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Ian I am beginning to think about and design the display case. I want to put it in my living room. A couple times you have included a photo of your’s in a comment. I have quickly scrolled back through my blog and your’s to find out he picture, and of course when I want it I can’t find it. I like the height of your’s since it is not real intrusive in the room. What is the height of the legs or table your case sets on? If I remember correctly, it looks about the height of a coffee table, maybe? Do you find the height good and comfortable for viewing?
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Ian I did think about it and decided to leave them alone. i had not thought about my emergency rudder chains being below the water line. I need to move them up, take out the eyebolt in the hull, and patch my copper. Speaking of Robert’s Caldercraft. A while back I got a copy of the Caldercraft instructions and did from time to time look at them for clarification of a step. I looked at it again recently in reference to the anchor rigging and contrary to Longridge, it shows leaving the large triple block with the hook and the haliard reeved through the cathead hooked on the anchor ring even though the anchor is lashed up in the shoe.
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So Ian if I go by Lees my topgallant lifts are not 100% wrong! If Lees says deadeye or cleat, mine is almost to a shroud cleat (just no cleat 😉). Maybe I will leave those lines alone and move on to the anchors. Robert I must compliment you on the outstanding craftsmanship of your rigging of the deadeyes and shrouds! That is some beautiful work that puts mine to shame. That is one area I really need practice and improvement before I start my Soleli Royal.
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Thanks Ian. I do remember that and seeing this figure in Longridge’s book. That is the way I originally had mine and changed it after we had that discussion about me having mine tied on the outside of the shrouds. Depending on my mood I may go back and put them back where they were before, without thimbles. See Robert, I knew Ian, or someone, would come through for you. 😊 I have to go back in and fix my emergency chains that hang below the water line.
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Robert initially that is exactly what I did for any lines that the instructions said to belay at a deadeye or a shroud. Later I learned that lines belayed at shrouds were not tied around the deadeye but instead to a shroud cleat. I had a number of lines tied at both the lower shrouds and the upper shrouds just like you do. I felt this scale is to small to try to make little tiny shroud cleats so what I’d did (not saying this is correct) is to untie all the ones I had around the bottom of a deadeye and tie them to the shroud right below the bottom ratline. Hope this is helpful. Maybe someone else can shed some light.
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Mexspur I think you are right. I still have it wrong!! All the chain should be above the copper. Back to the drawing room. Another easy fix.
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Oh OK Ian you mentioned a rope was connected to the chain. Now I see the rope has a hook that the chain connects to down near the eyebolt. Easy fix. git the lanterns painted and mounted. You were right the little lines that simulate the cage the lens sets in were a task. Some came out pretty good, others not so much. Fix the emergency chain then all that is left is those anchors once I am confident I understand them. I think I got it. Then I am going to fabricate an Admiral Nelson out of my crew men and paint them all.
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Ian I found this picture you included way back in post #118. Now to see if I can understand it. It looks like you have parts of the rigging going up into the shrouds.
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Ian that is crazy about you and your daughter! Doubt that has happened before. I just need to modify my rudder handle to get the eye under it. I can’t imagine anyone I know examining my boats that close and saying Hey how did the crewmen steer the boat with that eyebolt in the way of the rudder handle? But like all these things I will know. Still looking for your anchor rigging description. I found Caldercraft’s anchor rigging but it looks like it has been simplified. May not authentic, not sure.
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Ian I zoomed in on your boats in post #1401. I see on a couple you have an eyebolt in the deck portion under the rudder handle as well as a ring through the eyebolts. Is that correct? I like that better than the way I did it. Simple fix.
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Got the rudder chain attached at the mizzen channel and the first boat hung from the starboard davits. I made a block with a hook attached to a long haliard to hang the boat from and reeve through the davit to the cleat. I have no doubt I did not do the next part correct but I could not come up with a better idea. I have the hook attached to the block at the end of he haliard that hangs from the davit. So I debated what to do with the boat so I could suspend it from the hooks. I decided to put an eyebolt in the bow of the boat that I could put one of the hooks through. I thought of doing the same at the stern but realized an eyebolt in the center of the stern would have interfered with the rudder handle. Ultimately I put an eyebolt in the corners of the stern and attached a chain that will go over the hook. Once I get my USS Constitution down out of its case I will borrow the ore sets from the Constitution boats and put them in the Victory boats.
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Ian you are a little to humble. I don’t know who else on MSW has had a hurricane named after them! 😀 Will look to see if I can find your description.
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I guess you are right Dave. I think I will pretend Admiral Nelson offered the crew better paying jobs and they jumped ship! 😊 Got to think about my excuse for the stolen boat or two. My honesty always comes out 😀 Next I am going to hang boats on the davit haliards and then move to the anchors. Got to look for some good pictures that show how the anchors are rigged. Then I finally have to get back to painting the lanterns and my crew.
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Thank you Kevin. I think part of the reason has been that I am retired an able to work as much or as little as I want. My wife says she is happy for me that I have a hobby that I am so passionate about and does not mind if some days I spend hours in the shipyard. 😀 I am also quite sure I have gained time immeasurably from you, and my many other friends here on MSW, who have done the vast time consuming research and willingly passed it on. It is easy for me to just ask a question when I am stuck or confused about something and usually have my answer in a day or two. Those going before me probably spent many days researching the answer. And of course I can’t forget get Ian who has the Longridge book memorized! 😊 But back to my ship. After reading a number of recent post I am thinking of doing something that I don’t know if it is a ship building sin or not! 😳 I am thinking about raiding a previous built ship from years ago for some of its crew and a boat or two! My Revell 1/96 USS Constitution is in a display case high on a wall where the deck is above eye level. The only person that knows there are crewmen standing on the deck is me. Also I am the only person that knows there are several boats on that deck as well. My Victory display case will be below eye level so if I was to raid those items they would be very much on display in my Victory case. Is it considered forbidden to raid a previous build? 😊
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Worked on the davits today. I have the brass etched hinges from Daniel. To make a better fit with Daniel’s hinges I drilled out the end of the davit and inserted a strong wire the right gauge to fit the hole in the hinge. I then used a bit of CA glue to hold the wire in the drilled out hole. I bent the little brass hinges and glued them to the hull in the appropriate spots. After spending 30-45 minutes on my hands and knees looking for one of the tiny brass hinges that decided to go airborne I glued it in place along with the others. I sandwiched the davits between pairs of hinges with the wire in the hole of the little hinge making a perfect little hinge. Before I put the davits in place I added a cleat at the base of each to later accept the haliard. I rigged the davits in accordance with Longridge. I will later add the haliard that reeves through the end of each davit and include a block and hook to accept the boats. One thing I noticed during the rigging is the back part triangle shape jackstay topping lift runs very close to the main yard brace, almost touching it. I could not find anything I was doing wrong so I can only assume this is correct.
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Got the Ensign staff installed to include a pulley and haliard for raising and lowering. Also have the block and haliard on the gaff and boom even though not being used. Heller provided a satisfactory high quality paper ensign so I used it on the staff and rolled a bit of curl in it to represent a little wind. No Ian I unfortunately only have the three boats Heller provided. I suppose I will put one on each davit and decide what to do with the third. If I stumble on additional boats in the future I may add more. I included the assortment of 1/96 Revell crewmen I am going to use. A couple have in uniforms not of the period and will require some modifications. I am studying the operation of the davits. I think I understand (maybe) the rigging but I am curious about the haliard that reeves through the end and down to the double block with the hook. Does it just belay to a cleat or something at the bottom of the davit? Did the crewmen climb out on it to raise the boats?
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