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I think the deck looks fine for a distressed look. Looks like a well worn deck.

What scale do members prefer and why ?

Also the fabric glue prevents any fraying of the sails.

Didn't like the first set of sails so I cut shape of sails with appox 1/4" excess overlap of the thermal formed sails that came with the kit. I soaked the sail in very hot water to soften the the linen to hug the forms of the thermal sails by brushing them and then Painted them fully with a 50/50 water fabric glue solution being careful to brush the " sides " flat against the forms and down onto the flat area beyond the shape of the sail and let dry. I then cut out the sails with scissors. The jib and stay sails were cut at the extreme edge of the form of the sail. The square sails were cut at the extreme point of the sail top and bottom with the sides cut just beyond the corner of the flat plane of the sail. This gives strength to the shape of the sail. I now have a very lightweight sail that I can hang from the masts without deforming the plastic masts or existing rigging that appear fully wind filled and have vague outlines of panels within them. I wasn't concerned with any hems as I am at 1/96th scale and think that they wouldn't be visible

They look great. I will have to read thru how you did this

Mizzen sails mounted and running rigging completed. I set the yards about 10 degrees from square of center line.

Very Nice build Tom. Do you have a log ? I agree with you. That its marine model kit after looking at Zooker's pics and comparing to yours. Is yours all wood ? Thats what I don't get about zookers is the plastic masts and yards. I'm putting the sails and final touches

It sure looks like the sea witch by Lindberg that I'm building now except for the wooden railing. Could this be bashed. I also noticed the boom and gaffed seem to be wooden. That railing on my build was a separate plastic part glued in place. I will look for your log and see where your at

Yes I did but not at the boom. I don't have a bracket to Hold the boom. I followed the directions as closely as I could.

Thank you everyone for the nice comments. I've enjoyed reading throughout this site

Search (Advanced) → Results → Details ← Previous Next → Search Julia (Schooner), captured, 10 Aug 1813 Description Comments (0) Full Text Head Quarters, Kingston 14th August 18I3 By accounts received by His Excellency the Governor in Chief and Commander of the Forces, from Commodore Sir James Yeo, dated off York, at half paft I P.M. on the 11th inst. the following particulars have been transmitted of the capture and loss of four of the Enemy's Armed Schooners. " On TuesdayeEvening last the 1Oth inst. the enemy's Squadron under Commodore Chauncy, got under weigh from their anchorage off the mouth of the Niagara River, and with a fine breeze from the Eastward stood towards our fleet, which was becalmed off the Post at twelve mile Creek. At sunset a breeze coming off the land gave us the wind of the enemy, when our Squadron stood for them, on which they immediately bore away from us under as much sail as their Schooners could carry to keep up with their larger vessels. The enemy's fleet formed a long line, the PIKE, MADISON, ONEIDA and six Schooners, two Schooners being placed to windward for the purpose of raking the masts of our Squadron as is should come up. At eleven the squadron got within gun shot of the Schooners, when they opened a brifk fire, and from their going so fast it was more than an hour before the WOLFE, our headmoft ship, could pass them. At this time the rest of the squadron was two and three miles aftern of the WOLFE, and on her coming up with the MADIFON and PIKE, they put before the wind and made sail, firing their stern chase guns. Sir James Yeo finding it impossible to get the squadron up with the enemy, as the WOLFE was the only Ship which could keep up with them, made sail between them and the two Schooners to windward, which he captured, and which proved to be the JULIA and GROWLER, each mounting one long 32 and one long 12 pounder, with a compliment of forty men. Two of the enemy's largest Schooner, the SCOURGE of ten and the HAMILTON of nine guns, upset on the night of the 9th in carrying sail to keep from our Squadron, and all on board perifhed, in numbers about one hundred. By this loss and the capture of the two Schooners, the enemy's squadron has been reduced to ten vessels, and ours increased to eight. It is ascertained that the PIKE mounts 28 long 24 pounders, and has a compliment of four hundred and twenty men, and that the MADISON mounts 22 32 pound Carronades, with three hundred and forty men. Nine boat loads of troops were taken on board their Squadron on Monday for the purpose it is supposed of repelling boarders. The WOLFE has not received any material damage, and not a person hurt on board. The prisoners were landing from her on the 11th, and the damages of the GROWLER were repairing -- She had lost her Bowsprit and was otherwise much cut up. - Nothing could exceed the eagerness and enthusiasm manifested by the Officers and men serving on board of our Squadron, for a close engagement with the enemy, and the only apprehension and regret expressed by all were that their opponents tho' so superior in guns, weight of metal and men, would be too wary to afford them the oppertunity of terminating by a decisive action, the contest for the ascendancy on the Lake. Kingston GAZETTE Tues. Aug. 17, I8I3 , Item Type Clippings Notes Reason: captured Remarks: Becomes British prize Date of Original 1813 Subject(s) Schooners Julia (Schooner) Local identifier McN.W.24720 Language of Item English Geographic Coverage Lake Ontario Ontario, Canada Latitude: 43.795555 Longitude: -77.905555 Donor William R. McNeil Copyright Statement Copyright status unknown. Responsibility for determining the copyright status and any use rests exclusively with the user. Contact Maritime History of the Great Lakes Emailwalter@maritimehistoryofthegreatlakes.caWWW address http://www.MaritimeHistoryOfTheGreatLakes.ca/

I clicked the first link I provided and it took me right into articles and dispatches of both ships. Theres literally pages and pages about when they were made, who owned them, when and who captured them with descriptions of how many and type of guns ect. Ect.....

http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/ship-registration/001093-100.01-e.php This is about the canadian investigation of the shipwrecks Hamilton and Scourge. Lots of data. If you search use the Scourge and info on both ships will come up. If you search Hamilton you will get info regarding the city of Hamilton, Ont.

I was reading thru the below site and has military dispatches and news articles of the day from both Canadian and US local papers giving accounts of what happened to those ships. Very interesting reading. Hope it helps you https://images.maritimehistoryofthegreatlakes.ca/results?q=Schooner+scourge

2nd set of sails

Finished standing rigging and started running rigging. Still experimenting wth the sails. Didn't like the 1st set of sails. Second set so so. Will now try silk span. I don't really like that the sails will cover most of the rigging. Might just put furled sails on

Thank you for your reply. Being on lockdown is kind of limited my options and thought I'd give the shirt a try. It was an interesting experiment and I learned a little bit about making sails. I'll try to find some silk span and I have seen some of the videos and will try that to see how it looks maybe I'll just do furled sales as I don't like that cover up of my rigging

Thank you for your input being in lockdown has kind of limited my options. I thought I'd just try the shirt they do have the billowing effect of being filled with wind and the shirt was originally a very light yellow which I had read is a good color. Sales cover much of the work that I did on rigging so I think I am leaning towards doing a furled sail no. But I did learn a little bit about making sails

Tried a different way and I think looks better. Don't really like how much it covers the rigging maybe I'll furl them. How do you think these look ? I've asked my sister who does patchwork quilting if she can make them

I apparently followed the illustration too good. Did the standing rigging stay taut or did they release them in port? Will only 20 sails most. And maybe try. Main mast unfurl !!! Plastic tougher to rig because of bending. Than wood

If I can figure out how to move Shirt sails here it explains how I did this

It's official. Putting sails on

Prepared the yards with foot ropes. I cut a piece of a shirt 17 x 6 in along the button up side. I trimmed off the buttons between the buttons & the back seam giving me a full bolt rope along the top. Cut out the sails slightly larger than the molded plastic. soak them in hot water tamp them damp with a paper towel and lay them on the mold. brush water glue mixture on just the top surface while it was still damp. 10 min later brush a light coat of pure glue. Tie the bottom corners with thread before it completely sets up. If you peel the top Edge back just a millimeter or two leave the rest of it glued to the mold, LET DRY, so the sail will not move as you sew around the yard, going across and then tie it off at the other end of the yard. REMOVE from mold. At this point you will have a prepared yard w/Sail and foot rope. Question; at this scale ( 1/96 ) do I omit tackle blocks since theres no where to attach them without tangling the rigging ? And just tie off bottom of sail to the lower yard ? does this look OK and keep going? Also do the yards HAVE to be angled or can they be straight?

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