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🙂 Out of sheer curiosity – please don't forget to show the result. And one more potentially useful advice: the whole-moulding method is both proven and universal in its field of application, nevertheless a slight, professional fairing touch at the hull ends is sometimes required, just as in the real shipbuilding practice.
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That's right Kevin, just two moulds are used for shaping the whole hull. Or, this is how this boat of extremely simple, symmetrical shape was reverse-engineered by the most simple variant of the whole-moulding method (sufficient in most cases): – original plan was checked and the worst distortions corrected (it sports quite many other errors anyway, although unimportant already), – base lines were defined (keel, posts, stations etc.), – shape of the main frame was reconstructed by two tangential arcs and a vertical line (outside the planking; also shown in the sketch), – main frame "O" inside the planking was defined by offsetting the above curves by the planks' thickness (or so), – just two moulds were defined in the process: the main mould (red) and the hollow mould (green); their names differ depending on the sources; hollow mould is just an arc of constant radius, sufficient in this case, but often/sometimes other curves were used, like parabola, hyperbola etc., – the attached drawing is self-explanatory on how to derive the other station sections (frame "1" omitted for clarity), – normally, (narrowing and rising) floor curve should be employed for offsetting the main mould in order to get other station sections, but in this instance the sheer line (or greatest breadth) had to be used instead (the period craftsmen would had to do the same upon receiving this draught). Good luck with your designs
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Among the many modern works that explain in a visually appealing and clear (step-by-step) manner the principle of the essentially non-graphical whole-moulding method is the chapter of a larger work: Capturing the Curve. Underlying Concepts in the Design of the Hull by Taras Pevny. Please take a look at pages 187–190. The paper was found in the public domain and I suppose it can also be uploaded here. Pevny Taras - Capturing the Curve. Underlying Concepts in the Design of the Hull - 2017.pdf
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The ship models designed by kit manufacturers are perhaps too often too much stylized (to not say too much again 🙂), but miraculously your fine workmanship makes them all lovely works of art.
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17th century Baltic fluyt wreck found
Waldemar replied to Louie da fly's topic in Nautical/Naval History
To avoid drowning in an overabundance of short publications with repetitive information, I would simply recommend one comprehensive book by Niklas Eriksson, Urbanism under Sail. An archaeology of fluit ships in early modern everyday life, 2014. It can be downloaded from the links/sites provided above by Steven. -
This is the only unrecognized stamp found on the recovered gun tubes of the Swedish origin and in desperation I even imagined the same 🙂. Perhaps someone reading this log has an idea? It is not the equivalent of the English "Broad Arrow" identifying royal property, as a similar mark was found on only one of the other gun barrels from the "Solen" (on a captured bronze Polish 3-pdr, and this stamp was almost certainly made by its Swedish users too; see the image below, side view). Anything can be envisaged, say – an anchor marking a gun intended for the navy use? Runic lettering? Or something of a more personal/individual character?
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As an alternative to the above Polish gun barrels, captured Swedish 48-pdr assault guns can be substituted. 15, 6 and 6 pieces were cast in 1621, 1622 and 1624, respectively, at the Stockholm foundry. They were used both by the land forces and the navy. Note its slightly conical bore. ... and the real thing from the „Solen”:
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... To begin with, two assault guns (referred to in English as "cannon-periers," in Swedish as "stormstycken," and in German as "Feuerkatzen" – "fire cats" or simply as "Schrotstücke" – "hail-shot pieces"). They were most likely placed behind the mainmast, as on the "Solen". According to the 1565 inventory of one of the royal arsenals, six of these "small stone guns" in the weight range of 8.5–9.25 centners, belonged organizationally to the field army. They may also be of interest to the "Vasa" modellers, as three such trophy guns were issued to this Swedish ship in 1628.
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Concluding on the issue of defective, irregularly cast cannons and their (in)accuracy: in some artillery manuals of the 16/17th centuries one can find corrective methods (by mathematical means) of aiming such cannons. These, however, are of doubtful practical value even in static warfare on stable land. And their use in dynamic naval fight was completely out of the question due to the constantly changing range, and the inevitable fact of firing from a moving, unleveled and swaying platform at an equally moving target in an unpredictable location/direction. Finally, due to the sheer illiteracy of most or many early modern period gunners. Experience (if any) and luck may have helped, but only to a certain extent. These are my assumptions for this project and this very period in general, regardless of what more or less scholarly 18/19/20th century works on artillery say. I will also prefer to keep in mind contemporary (meaning 16/17th century) tactical instructions and descriptions of actual encounters. Now preparing mentally to return to drawing work....
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Extraordinary workmanship of the legendary Mediterranean predator vessel. What a light structure!
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Finally some free time to look around.... It's just not right that such works of art are created only for the ships of a few major sea nations 🙂. And out of sheer jealousy, I decided to create plans to enable the construction of a similar jewel 🙂. I love structural models.
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Lieste, all that you have written is very good, but for an era of artillery tactics with an already advanced firing techniques and much better quality guns. But even in the Vauban era and later, on stable ground in siege work by scientist gunners, do you know how close the heavy siege guns had to be positioned to the walls in order to gain accuracy needed to effectively make the breach? Not more than a few tens of meters. Another example from the period close to this project: after several days of bombarding the Invincible Armada from hundreds of guns and expending all available ammunition, the English fleet accomplished almost nothing in terms of the Spanish ships destruction. Ricochet fire, if used intentionally then at all by English gunners, must have been to no avail as well. So, for the needs of this very project, I would prefer to think in terms of the early 17th century practice/reality than 18th century theory. Druxey: I should have added that some primitive form of elevating/depressing is possible by shifting barrel rests to different positions. This would be required to fulfil the standing order from the so-called Fleming Instruction of 1628 (Swedish admiral). From memory: "if boarding is not possible, the ships should stay close to the enemy ships and aim at their waterline". No ricochet fire is mentioned in this Instruction. One could also imagine additional wedges between the barrel rests and the gun tubes themselves, but their usefulness would be rather poor due to the rocking of the ship.
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