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Hi Allen, Thank you for the tip. I will certainly try that in the future. I used the 5mm planks that were the same size as the planks that will be used on the first layer. I used them to try and get a feel of how the planks would form to the bulk heads as naturally as possible. I've started tapering the first band planks, hope it turns out ok. If not, I will have a second chance to get it right. I welcome all the advice I can get, I'm learning as I go. Nearshore
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Look forward to watching the progress of this build. Nearshore
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Hello all, Small update on the Bellona. I glued the garboard planks in place and pinned the temporary battens in their positions. I have marked up the bulk heads so many times, that I decided to use a colored pen to mark the final-final locations of the battens. Before removing them, I marked each side of the planks in blue ink to differentiate from all the other markings on the bulk heads. After removing them, I marked the center line of each plank in red. After everything was marked, I began the daunting task of measuring the overall length of each bulkhead and the measurements between bands. The overall measurements were taken from the wales to the garboard. I plotted the measurements for both starboard and port side. The overall lengths are pretty even, but the measurements between bands and the band widths were off a bit. I believe that this is because the battens were not perfectly aligned and the measurements on port and starboard were off just a tad. I don't see this as a problem, I should be able to adjust when I start the planking. I used the overall measurements of bulkhead 8 and 9 to establish how many planks that would be needed. The first layer of planks are 5mm. I will need 20 planks on bulkheads 8 & 9. I used this measurement to establish the taper of the remaining planks. The taper is the bottom number on the spreadsheet. It was very interesting to line off the hull in this way and the numbers gave me a good indicator of the error on the placement of the temporary battens. The numbers on the column "S" were taken at the stem. It is telling me that the taper between bulkhead 3 and the stem will need to go from 3.25mm at 3 to 2.75mm at the stem. I have laid out a couple planks and tapered them to the measurements on the graph. I will post an update on the progress as I go. Cheers Nearshore
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Well, it has been a while since I've posted anything. I have not had much to post. I took a break from the Bellona and have not done anything with her since October 22. Have had lots of other projects to work on around the house. So, after reorganizing my modeling space, I started to fiddle around with where I left off in October. I completed most of the planking on the wales and have started to line off the hull for the first layer of planks. I cut out the false ports for the cannons and squared them off. I laid out the bearding and rabbet lines and carved them out. I have begun laying out and installing the temporary battens for lining out the hull planking. I installed the temporary garboard planks, and I am using them for my initial measurements. I pinned the battens in place but am not happy with the way they line up. I have redone one side and took a pic to show what looks to me as the right alignment verse the wrong alignment. The planks on the left are lining up the way I think they should lay. The planks on the right look to be a problem waiting to happen. Anyway, that's where I am at right now on the Ballona. I will post another update when I actually start installing the first layer. I will also provide a pic of the temporary battens once they are all lined up properly and pinned down. Cheers!!
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Well I have a little update on the Bellona. I made a rookie mistake, but that's ok, I'm a rookie. After installing the last of the false gun ports, I noticed that the planking on the stern did not quite line up. The port and starboard planks on the stern were offset by a little over 2mm. I must have lost focus and did not pay attention to the stern planks and how they were lining up. I used 2 planks to get the vertical spacing for the false gun ports. Plans call for a 10mm opening at each port, the planks are 5mm, so it works out. Where I messed up was on plank 30b. I tried to bend it around the transom and by doing so it through off the alignment on the port and starboard. I unfortunately didn't notice this until almost all the gun ports were installed. I was pretty discouraged at this point and didn't get any pictures before I started ripping it apart. It almost made it to the fire pit, but after a couple beers and walking away from it for a few days, I reasoned with myself that this is all part of the sport. I am installing and dry fitting all the waler planks before gluing this time, making sure that they all line up at the stern. I also am not trying to bend plank 30b onto the transom and just let it dead end like the rest of the planks. Everything lines up good from bulkhead 11 forward, so at least I didn't need to remove all the planks and start over. The silver lining, I guess. Well, that's it for now, I'm sure there will be some more setbacks along the way, I just hope that I can pay better attention and not mess this build up to bad.
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Here is an update on the Bellona build. I finished the forward bulkhead doors and started installing the top deck. I started the planking and layout of the gun ports. I decided to install the bulkhead fixtures on the main deck before I install the top deck to make for an easier install. I took it even further and installed the upper bulkhead doors. It looked like it would have been a problem to install if I installed the decks beforehand. I allowed for a gap under the fittings so the deck boards will fit nice a snug. I kept with the same technic of using brass black and then used a 3000-grit sandpaper to polish the raised portions. I used spray clear acrylic to seal everything up. I installed the first row of the gun ports and faired the upper bulk heads for the remaining planks. I should hopefully be able to finish the first layer of planking before the new year. I will try and post another update in a couple weeks. Cheers
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Hello all, A little update on the HMS Bellona. I have dry fitted the all the bulkheads and glued the main and upper decks. I traced out the layout of the cannon openings on tracing paper and laid it up against that hull to see how things will line up. I started the planking on the main deck. I figured it will be easier to do it at this stage then to wait until the hull planking is done. I dry fitted the brass doors and really didn't like the way it looked. I toyed with the idea of painting the panels to dull it down a bit. Instead of painting, I decided to blacken the brass and then polished off the black on the framing. I think it came out pretty nice. I will use the same method on the remaining brass doors when the time comes. I have started the dry fitting of the first planks and have faired the hull down and started the bearding line. So far everything seems to be lining up ok. The first layer of planking will take me some time. I want to practice the technic of lining off the hull on the first layer, so if or when I mess it up, I will have a second chance to get it right on the finial layer. Well, that's it for now, I will try and put another update out in the next couple weeks. Need to prep for the Hurricane that's headed our way.
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Hi Hamilton, Yeah I get what you're saying. The pics I posted were of the dry fit. I haven't glued anything together yet as I am still adjusting the parts. I always have had the motto that "If you have to force it, it doesn't fit". I may be spending a bit more time on the dry fit than usual, but I also believe that this stage will set the tone for the rest of the build. I welcome your advice. I have seen your build log of this ship and its one of the main reasons I decided to go with the Bellona. You are an outstanding modeler and I look forward to your guidance on this. Nearshore
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I am bringing this up to date to where I am on the assembly. I have been spending the last couple of weeks dry fitting the framing. The keel has a terrible bow in it. I tried to straighten it out with water and heat from an iron. It did get most of the warp out of it, but there still is a slight bow. I am using some 1 inch aluminum angle on my vise to keep things straight. Hopefully when the frames are glued and the upper planks are in place that that will keep things straight. I decided that I was going to bevel the decks prior to them being installed. They sit in place rather nicely without having to pin them in place. I installed .5mm and 1mm shims on the frames to also keep them in alignment. So far everything seems to be lining up ok. I haven't glued anything yet, i still need to mark the keel for the babet and bearding lines. Well that's it for now. Nearshore
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Hello, I have seen a couple of build logs for the HMS Bellona on MSW and I am going to attempt to build this amazing ship. I hope that I can be half as good as the others that are building this ship. I ordered the kit back in May and received it at the end of June. I was surprised that it shipped from Australia as I got a notice that it was stuck in customs. Well, I was not going to start on this until I completed my 1850 Whaling Launch by Panart, which I did. I posted the finished build on the finished build area of MSW. Anyway, this is my humbled opinion on the kit so far. My first opinion when opening up the box and inspecting the contents was "Oh Boy!!! It's so small" The Whaling Launch was 1:16 scale so going to a 1:100 scale was a bit of a shock. I didn't want to build a large model because I am limited on space. Being in line with the other previews of this kit, I inspected the contents and reviewed the drawings and instructions. They weren't kidding when they say that Corel isn't much on their instructions. I think there is a whole 6 pages in English on how to construct this kit. There are about 10 sheets of drawings, most of them being to scale. There is no parts inventory with this kit, but I knew that going into it from previous reviews that I read. I sorted all the strips of wood and labeled them as to their size so I wouldn't have to hunt for them when needed. I'm not a very experienced modeler, so this will be a very challenging kit for me to build. I am glad that there are a couple of other build logs here that I can follow and help get through some of the difficult challenges that lay ahead.
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Hi Hamilton, Your build looks very nice so far. I will be following this thread with interest. I purchased the Bellona 1:100 scale Coral just last week. I have not received it yet but expect it in the next couple weeks. I doubt that I will start this build until my current build is completed, and hurricane season ends. (1850 1:16 scale whaling launch by Panart.) Keep the post coming!
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Very nice build!!! Can't wait to follow your next one.
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Thanks! I'm surprised that it is still in good shape after all these years. I see so many mistakes I did on the planking back then. There was no internet back then and the instructions are not very good so had no guidance other then text books. Lol
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Hi Dave. Thank you for the warm welcome. My name is Jeff but my handle is Nearshore. Will answer to either one. I was an aviation electronics technician in the Navy. I am an electrical contractor now and have owned my company for 24years. It's time for me to slow down and get back to the fundamentals of life, this hobby being one of them. I will certainly be asking questions as well as participating in the many forums here. I will start a build log on my next project, HMS Bellona from Corel. I'm told it's a challenging build so I will be reaching out for the expert advice from many of the seasoned modelers here. Thanks again for the welcome!!
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Hello all. I am honored to be accepted into this group. I built models when I was very young, mostly plastic. I built my first wooden ship when I was in the Navy back in the early 80s. It was a sloop rig but I don't remember the name or the details, but I still have it after all these years. Back then I purchased a 1850 whaling launch from Panart, 1:16scale. I completed the shell of the hull back in 85 and put it on the shelf and focused on career and family. Well 37 years later and I have taken it off the shelf and picked up were I left off. The pictures are of where I left off and where I currently am. It's probably to late to start a build log here, but I have taken pictures of the build along the way. I have read alot of the build logs here and have gained more knowledge of this art and have applied the techniques to my current build. Cheers and hope to learn more from all of you experienced modelers out there!!
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