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Jaager got a reaction from Canute in First Resawing Adventure
Michael,
A quick check on the Net for your area includes:
C.R. Muterspaw Lumber Xenia OH
" sells the finest domestic, quartersawn, figured, and exotic hardwoods ... Our specialty is figured wood, including such species as Tiger Maple, Curly Hard Maple, Birdseye Maple, and Curly Cherry "
Now, this is exactly the opposite of what interests me, but perhaps they have some plain straight grain boring stock too, maybe a deal can be had?
Also, while I prefer 2" length stock, anything from 6" on up is worth having, so end cuttings and short stock may be discounted.
What they offer that would interest me + Birch, Cherry, Hard Maple, Poplar
There is Western Ohio Hardwoods in Dayton, but I found no Web presence, so what they are and what they have = ?
You can also check for local saw mills - rough and green lumber often, but with a good band saw and proper storage - you can save there.
I get more wood from the rough cut - not finish planed stock.
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Jaager got a reaction from mtaylor in First Resawing Adventure
Michael,
A quick check on the Net for your area includes:
C.R. Muterspaw Lumber Xenia OH
" sells the finest domestic, quartersawn, figured, and exotic hardwoods ... Our specialty is figured wood, including such species as Tiger Maple, Curly Hard Maple, Birdseye Maple, and Curly Cherry "
Now, this is exactly the opposite of what interests me, but perhaps they have some plain straight grain boring stock too, maybe a deal can be had?
Also, while I prefer 2" length stock, anything from 6" on up is worth having, so end cuttings and short stock may be discounted.
What they offer that would interest me + Birch, Cherry, Hard Maple, Poplar
There is Western Ohio Hardwoods in Dayton, but I found no Web presence, so what they are and what they have = ?
You can also check for local saw mills - rough and green lumber often, but with a good band saw and proper storage - you can save there.
I get more wood from the rough cut - not finish planed stock.
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Jaager got a reaction from mtaylor in Gluing Planks When Wet
The "one plank at a time" =
one method of planking is to
fit the wales
fit the garboard strake.
If the remaining space is large, site a batten or two to get
a smooth run and divide the area into manageable zones.
Determine the width of the first plank and fit it. Then measure
the remaining space and determine the width of the next plank
from that, not all planks measured at once.
Since this is wood and a complex curved surface, each addition will change
the open space in an unpredictable way.
It kind of precludes mass application, when doing this properly.
It is more like two planks at a time - since P&S are measured together.
Using PVA, an hour or two should be enough clamping time and since
the process does not stress the plank, the next plank can be worked on,
rather than over night.
If you do not mind the holes and the support is sufficient, hitch chucks and lils will
clamp a plank with some force. Water may close the holes, they can be filled with bamboo
"trunnels", if the lils are brass, nipped and filled - if you like the brass peg look- I am thinking
of trying drawn copper wire as trunnels.
Did anyone else see the photos of the old model where iron trunnels were used? The chemical reaction
with large black stains in the planks and erosion of the iron?
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Jaager got a reaction from Canute in Gluing Planks When Wet
The "one plank at a time" =
one method of planking is to
fit the wales
fit the garboard strake.
If the remaining space is large, site a batten or two to get
a smooth run and divide the area into manageable zones.
Determine the width of the first plank and fit it. Then measure
the remaining space and determine the width of the next plank
from that, not all planks measured at once.
Since this is wood and a complex curved surface, each addition will change
the open space in an unpredictable way.
It kind of precludes mass application, when doing this properly.
It is more like two planks at a time - since P&S are measured together.
Using PVA, an hour or two should be enough clamping time and since
the process does not stress the plank, the next plank can be worked on,
rather than over night.
If you do not mind the holes and the support is sufficient, hitch chucks and lils will
clamp a plank with some force. Water may close the holes, they can be filled with bamboo
"trunnels", if the lils are brass, nipped and filled - if you like the brass peg look- I am thinking
of trying drawn copper wire as trunnels.
Did anyone else see the photos of the old model where iron trunnels were used? The chemical reaction
with large black stains in the planks and erosion of the iron?
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Jaager got a reaction from Canute in Gluing Planks When Wet
To supplement Mark's post, in addition to the run of the grain, the species used can also produce problems.
The solution is to use species suited to our needs. They tend to be more expensive and harder. The hardness
means longer milling time and increased wear on cutting tools.
The catalyst for the CA glue bonding reaction is water, so the bond should occur faster if anything with a damp
surface.
Wood in a humidor? My guess is that fungus would find that favorable. The wood should be in equilibrium with it
finished environment.
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Jaager got a reaction from PeteB in First Resawing Adventure
Cliff,
Good start.
You have more bravery than I have. Being compulsive, I would have taken the sanding planer with me.
I am never sure how much thicker my stock must be to get a 220 finish on both
sides and have all of the blade scars removed.
I try to keep it as close to final as possible to get max yield. The additional passes thru
the thickness sander is tedious, time consuming and poor wood economy.
In your place, I would find out the blade length for their bandsaw and if I could use my own on
their machine. If I could I would purchase 3 or 4 1/2" Wood Slicer blades from Highland.
A 5/8" or 3/4" blade is not better at resawing than a 1/2" blade. The steel is top quality.
the blade is thin and it only has a minimum set, so the kerf is as low as can be had.
These blades last longer, but they are expensive and you only want to use them for resawing.
The trick for efficient tracking when resawing, is not having a wider blade. The trick is in
the blade position. The cutting edge of the teeth should ride on the crown of the top wheel.
And, a wider blade will not stop it wandering when the cutting edge gets dull
I know for a fact that even a hard steel blade will snap if you push it when dull.
The blade only needs have just enough tension. A tighter blade does not resist wander,
it just more likely to break.
I would also make friends with a couple of local tree service companies and pay them for any
Pear, Hawthorn, Plum, and especially Apple butts and large limbs. 18-24" is plenty long.
Cherry is great, and Sweet Cherry is similar in hardness and grain to Black Cherry, but the color is tan. Unless they
work old fence rows, a tree service is only likely to cut eatable cherry trees. Fortunately, Black
Cherry is readily available from commercial sources. And half the work is done over self harvest,
billeting, and drying.
You are a good haul from the mountains and the deals to be had on rough cut
Hard Maple and Black Cherry, But it may be worth a trip, especially if you do not have a retail
yard like Yukon Lumber near by who also sell rough stock.. The mill planers take off significant wood, so a smooth planed 3/4"
board at a retail yard is 1- 1 1/4" thick at a country saw mill. And yes, it is a PITA to get
smooth face on the top and bottom edges of slabs resawn from rough boards, But frame timbers
do not need this anyway and you have up to a 1/2" more width - depending on how much checking there is.
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Jaager got a reaction from mtaylor in Gluing Planks When Wet
To supplement Mark's post, in addition to the run of the grain, the species used can also produce problems.
The solution is to use species suited to our needs. They tend to be more expensive and harder. The hardness
means longer milling time and increased wear on cutting tools.
The catalyst for the CA glue bonding reaction is water, so the bond should occur faster if anything with a damp
surface.
Wood in a humidor? My guess is that fungus would find that favorable. The wood should be in equilibrium with it
finished environment.
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Jaager got a reaction from mtaylor in Looking for good copper foil
Take a look at Bare Metal Foil - one of their products is copper.
No idea about the longevity of the adhesive backing.
As a material that can be burnished - the thickness may be
closer to scale than the usual choices.
I have no hands on experience with it.
As what is now ancient history, I followed the suggestion from
the original Model Shipways, with copper rectangles, flamed treated
to darken and adhered using Weldwood contact cement. The
combination failed to stick after a few years. The plates popped off,
the remaining cement was a copper color, so an explanation may be
a chemical reaction that migrated copper into the adhesive and negated
its bonding capacity.
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Jaager got a reaction from Canute in Looking for good copper foil
Take a look at Bare Metal Foil - one of their products is copper.
No idea about the longevity of the adhesive backing.
As a material that can be burnished - the thickness may be
closer to scale than the usual choices.
I have no hands on experience with it.
As what is now ancient history, I followed the suggestion from
the original Model Shipways, with copper rectangles, flamed treated
to darken and adhered using Weldwood contact cement. The
combination failed to stick after a few years. The plates popped off,
the remaining cement was a copper color, so an explanation may be
a chemical reaction that migrated copper into the adhesive and negated
its bonding capacity.
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Jaager got a reaction from Canute in Can this hull be saved? (US Brig Lawrence)
To answer your primary question- being literal = yes
If you can't get the "brindle" effect reversed to satisfaction, and if you are
near a Wood Craft outlet, check out their selection of veneer. Something
like a thin Beech to overlay what you have. It could be dyed before being
laid - a dye will not affect PVA bonding.
Super blonde shellac with or without Tung oil = a bit more control over surface
sheen.
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Jaager got a reaction from Geoff Matson in Can this hull be saved? (US Brig Lawrence)
To answer your primary question- being literal = yes
If you can't get the "brindle" effect reversed to satisfaction, and if you are
near a Wood Craft outlet, check out their selection of veneer. Something
like a thin Beech to overlay what you have. It could be dyed before being
laid - a dye will not affect PVA bonding.
Super blonde shellac with or without Tung oil = a bit more control over surface
sheen.
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Jaager got a reaction from mtaylor in Can this hull be saved? (US Brig Lawrence)
To answer your primary question- being literal = yes
If you can't get the "brindle" effect reversed to satisfaction, and if you are
near a Wood Craft outlet, check out their selection of veneer. Something
like a thin Beech to overlay what you have. It could be dyed before being
laid - a dye will not affect PVA bonding.
Super blonde shellac with or without Tung oil = a bit more control over surface
sheen.
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Jaager got a reaction from mtaylor in Thinning water based paint
Rather than a heat gun, a box with 100- 200-300 W of incandescent lights and a muffin fan or computer cooling fan
would reduce the relative humidity and speed water evaporation. The light wattage level = the settings to dry faster
but not too fast, and you could do something else as it drys.
I seem remember seeing photos of auto paint rooms with banks of heat lamps -- but that paint is solvent based, so drying rate
there is probably a completely different equation.
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Jaager got a reaction from Canute in Thinning water based paint
Rather than a heat gun, a box with 100- 200-300 W of incandescent lights and a muffin fan or computer cooling fan
would reduce the relative humidity and speed water evaporation. The light wattage level = the settings to dry faster
but not too fast, and you could do something else as it drys.
I seem remember seeing photos of auto paint rooms with banks of heat lamps -- but that paint is solvent based, so drying rate
there is probably a completely different equation.
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Jaager got a reaction from thibaultron in Thinning water based paint
Rather than a heat gun, a box with 100- 200-300 W of incandescent lights and a muffin fan or computer cooling fan
would reduce the relative humidity and speed water evaporation. The light wattage level = the settings to dry faster
but not too fast, and you could do something else as it drys.
I seem remember seeing photos of auto paint rooms with banks of heat lamps -- but that paint is solvent based, so drying rate
there is probably a completely different equation.
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Jaager got a reaction from thibaultron in pencil drill
Guessing that you are asking about AliExpress
Under Home Improvement
is tool
try 12V DC motors
and drill chucks
also have water stones
They have low cost flex shafts with 1/4" sockets and chucks that mount there.
I needed for 1" / 2" / 3" bowl sander tools (hook & loop media mount) ( PeachTree)- but I
bit the bullet and bought a Kirjes flex shaft from Lee Valley to finish inside frame bevels
instead of the low cost Chinese tools.
The cost is generally very low at Ali - and mostly they are reliable - shipping is surface post and
not too long. There were a couple of mistakes- and instead of a refund - I got some sort of something
for a cell phone - a device that I am mostly a Luddite about.
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Jaager got a reaction from Canute in pencil drill
Guessing that you are asking about AliExpress
Under Home Improvement
is tool
try 12V DC motors
and drill chucks
also have water stones
They have low cost flex shafts with 1/4" sockets and chucks that mount there.
I needed for 1" / 2" / 3" bowl sander tools (hook & loop media mount) ( PeachTree)- but I
bit the bullet and bought a Kirjes flex shaft from Lee Valley to finish inside frame bevels
instead of the low cost Chinese tools.
The cost is generally very low at Ali - and mostly they are reliable - shipping is surface post and
not too long. There were a couple of mistakes- and instead of a refund - I got some sort of something
for a cell phone - a device that I am mostly a Luddite about.
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Jaager got a reaction from Elijah in pencil drill
Small DC motors with chucks =
AliExpress a commune of sorts in China
Marlin P Jones motors, wires , and a DC 2A power supply that is 3/4.5/6/7.5/9/12 V with banana plug and gator clamp wires - no need for batteries
and speed control from power supply @ $17 it would not take many batteries for it to be cost effective
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Jaager got a reaction from mtaylor in pencil drill
Small DC motors with chucks =
AliExpress a commune of sorts in China
Marlin P Jones motors, wires , and a DC 2A power supply that is 3/4.5/6/7.5/9/12 V with banana plug and gator clamp wires - no need for batteries
and speed control from power supply @ $17 it would not take many batteries for it to be cost effective
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Jaager got a reaction from thibaultron in pencil drill
Small DC motors with chucks =
AliExpress a commune of sorts in China
Marlin P Jones motors, wires , and a DC 2A power supply that is 3/4.5/6/7.5/9/12 V with banana plug and gator clamp wires - no need for batteries
and speed control from power supply @ $17 it would not take many batteries for it to be cost effective
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Jaager got a reaction from Canute in pencil drill
Small DC motors with chucks =
AliExpress a commune of sorts in China
Marlin P Jones motors, wires , and a DC 2A power supply that is 3/4.5/6/7.5/9/12 V with banana plug and gator clamp wires - no need for batteries
and speed control from power supply @ $17 it would not take many batteries for it to be cost effective
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Jaager got a reaction from Elijah in pencil drill
The General version has been on Micro Mark for a while. There is a Jacobs chuck that fits it, so
wire gauge bits can be used with it.
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Jaager got a reaction from mtaylor in pencil drill
The General version has been on Micro Mark for a while. There is a Jacobs chuck that fits it, so
wire gauge bits can be used with it.
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Jaager got a reaction from Gregory in Roger B. Taney rigging and sail plans
Roger B Taney
Revenue Cutter
Launched 12/26/1833
Isaac Webb design
LBP 74.5"
Beam 20" 8.5"
Depth 7.5'
Howard I Chapelle drafted a hull plan and it is available from The Smithsonian
They also have spar plan for the near contemporary Revenue cutter Jefferson and one for the Revenue cutter Washington.
Since Jefferson may have been a sister, this plan may be close enough.
Chapelle provided the following data on his plan of the Taney
Help for the details may be available in one or all of the following books:
LEVER,L DARCY
EDWARD W SWEETMAN CO
NEW YORK
1963
MASTING - RIGGING
ART OF RIGGING, THE 1848
BIDDLECOMB,G
EDWARD A SWEETMAN
NEW YORK
1969
MASTING AND RIGGING
KEDGE ANCHOR, THE 1876
BRADY,WILLIAM N
MACDONALD AND JANE'S
LONDON
1974
MASTING AND RIGGING
SEAMANSHIP 1862
NARES,GEORGE S
GRESHAM BOOKS
SURRY
1979
SEAMANSHIP
19TH MASTING RIGGING SAIL
Rigging Period Ship Models
Petersson, Lannarth
Seaforth
2011
I have not looked at the books to see which are really helpful for a small vessel like this.
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Jaager got a reaction from druxey in pencil drill
The General version has been on Micro Mark for a while. There is a Jacobs chuck that fits it, so
wire gauge bits can be used with it.