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    Jaager got a reaction from Canute in Warping sheet wood.   
    Is it a single continuous sheet?
    Does the grain look like a plane cut or a rotary veneer cut.
    The shape that the sheet wants to take looks like a rotary veneer cut and it is going back to it shape on the log.
    Is there a problem with what it will glue to? 
    Is it a minimal surface with few contact points?
    Is there a problem with clamping it with enough pressure to get a strong bond?
    This is the natural conformation of the sheet.  Any mitigation that you do before bonding will be a temporary fix.  Mother Nature will fight you.  Titebond II will hold it if done correctly, because that bond is stronger than the lignin bond holding the wood fibers together.
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    Jaager got a reaction from thibaultron in Warping sheet wood.   
    Is it a single continuous sheet?
    Does the grain look like a plane cut or a rotary veneer cut.
    The shape that the sheet wants to take looks like a rotary veneer cut and it is going back to it shape on the log.
    Is there a problem with what it will glue to? 
    Is it a minimal surface with few contact points?
    Is there a problem with clamping it with enough pressure to get a strong bond?
    This is the natural conformation of the sheet.  Any mitigation that you do before bonding will be a temporary fix.  Mother Nature will fight you.  Titebond II will hold it if done correctly, because that bond is stronger than the lignin bond holding the wood fibers together.
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    Jaager got a reaction from robert952 in I'm a 14 year old kid who wants to build his own scratch build model ship or boat(i have no experience) and my only available material is sintra board or styrene   
    If you are like most of us, you are on  the edge of a free fall that will last for 8 or 9 more years. Your interest, focus, and enthusiasm  can literally change overnight.  Too large a project that you lose interest in, can be both misspent money and a nagging mental thorn.   Being politically incorrect by being too single product focused, starting with ONE - the dory - of the Model Shipwright beginner series is a prudent option.  A deal on multiple kits is only a deal if you finish all of the kits.
     
    You might develop an interest in the dory by watching an old, old movie:  Captains Courageous, 1937 version.
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    Jaager got a reaction from Ryland Craze in I'm a 14 year old kid who wants to build his own scratch build model ship or boat(i have no experience) and my only available material is sintra board or styrene   
    If you are like most of us, you are on  the edge of a free fall that will last for 8 or 9 more years. Your interest, focus, and enthusiasm  can literally change overnight.  Too large a project that you lose interest in, can be both misspent money and a nagging mental thorn.   Being politically incorrect by being too single product focused, starting with ONE - the dory - of the Model Shipwright beginner series is a prudent option.  A deal on multiple kits is only a deal if you finish all of the kits.
     
    You might develop an interest in the dory by watching an old, old movie:  Captains Courageous, 1937 version.
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    Jaager got a reaction from Canute in Byrnes saw fence advice sought   
    As you do this, think about the physics of the operation.
     
    The plane of the cutting teeth and the plane of the fence must be parallel up thru the zone of active cutting.
    The part of the blade behind that is an encumbrance.  It is a source of friction,  A blade that is hollow ground or whose teeth have set can greatly reduce the friction.
    Hollow ground is more expensive, There is an outer ring in the zone with the teeth that is not ground. We are usually cutting stock that is so thin that some or all of it is still at the flat part.  We loose the advantage that the hollow provides.
    Blades with significant set also have significant lose to kerf.
    If the fence has off set THAT IS LIMITED to the part that is behind the crown of the blade will reduce the friction.  But, to do this, the fence must have two planes and must have special engineering. 
     
    If the product being cut comes out between the fence and the blade, once the settings are precise and accurate,  you can rock and roll forever.  There is just kick back and pushing it all behind the blade to worry about.
    If the thin rip guide is used, there is no kick back and the push is easy.  The fence must be moved after every cut, so no rock and roll. But a micrometer is not needed to reposition the fence. The surface of the stock that rides against the fence does not change with every cut.
     
     
    Another factor but not a part of this problem is that the ideal is that the blade be one with three teeth in the thickness of the stock being cut.
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    Jaager got a reaction from Baker in I'm a 14 year old kid who wants to build his own scratch build model ship or boat(i have no experience) and my only available material is sintra board or styrene   
    If you are like most of us, you are on  the edge of a free fall that will last for 8 or 9 more years. Your interest, focus, and enthusiasm  can literally change overnight.  Too large a project that you lose interest in, can be both misspent money and a nagging mental thorn.   Being politically incorrect by being too single product focused, starting with ONE - the dory - of the Model Shipwright beginner series is a prudent option.  A deal on multiple kits is only a deal if you finish all of the kits.
     
    You might develop an interest in the dory by watching an old, old movie:  Captains Courageous, 1937 version.
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    Jaager got a reaction from Edwardkenway in I'm a 14 year old kid who wants to build his own scratch build model ship or boat(i have no experience) and my only available material is sintra board or styrene   
    If you are like most of us, you are on  the edge of a free fall that will last for 8 or 9 more years. Your interest, focus, and enthusiasm  can literally change overnight.  Too large a project that you lose interest in, can be both misspent money and a nagging mental thorn.   Being politically incorrect by being too single product focused, starting with ONE - the dory - of the Model Shipwright beginner series is a prudent option.  A deal on multiple kits is only a deal if you finish all of the kits.
     
    You might develop an interest in the dory by watching an old, old movie:  Captains Courageous, 1937 version.
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    Jaager got a reaction from Keith Black in I'm a 14 year old kid who wants to build his own scratch build model ship or boat(i have no experience) and my only available material is sintra board or styrene   
    If you are like most of us, you are on  the edge of a free fall that will last for 8 or 9 more years. Your interest, focus, and enthusiasm  can literally change overnight.  Too large a project that you lose interest in, can be both misspent money and a nagging mental thorn.   Being politically incorrect by being too single product focused, starting with ONE - the dory - of the Model Shipwright beginner series is a prudent option.  A deal on multiple kits is only a deal if you finish all of the kits.
     
    You might develop an interest in the dory by watching an old, old movie:  Captains Courageous, 1937 version.
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    Jaager got a reaction from mtaylor in I'm a 14 year old kid who wants to build his own scratch build model ship or boat(i have no experience) and my only available material is sintra board or styrene   
    If you are like most of us, you are on  the edge of a free fall that will last for 8 or 9 more years. Your interest, focus, and enthusiasm  can literally change overnight.  Too large a project that you lose interest in, can be both misspent money and a nagging mental thorn.   Being politically incorrect by being too single product focused, starting with ONE - the dory - of the Model Shipwright beginner series is a prudent option.  A deal on multiple kits is only a deal if you finish all of the kits.
     
    You might develop an interest in the dory by watching an old, old movie:  Captains Courageous, 1937 version.
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    Jaager got a reaction from mtaylor in Want information on a model kit.   
    I do not believe that the situation where  AAMM has a monograph of this vessel is a coincidence.
    My guess is that the AAMM plans were used to develop the kit and that royalties were paid.
    Now almost all wooden sail AAMM monographs are drawn with a eye toward laminated carved hull.
    They have a Body plan, so POB is easy enough to derive from it.
    Once you get beyond hull fabrication, the monograph contains more than enough detail and is probably better than the plans that come with the kit.  The scale is 1:75  The data is on a large and crowded sheet.  It is all "What".  There is no "How".   Besides this site, there are more than a few books, and three journals available as CDs here that more than cover the "How".
     
    We have wooden houses and many other wooden objects that are at least hundreds of years old.  There are trees that are hundreds of years old.  Wood is a polymer, but unlike man-made synthetic polymers, it does not get all that brittle with age. Too much moisture or direct UV over time will degrade it, but if the wood in an old kit is brittle or fragile, then this probably is because the species of wood and plywood quality supplied was crap to begin with.
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    Jaager reacted to mtaylor in I'm a 14 year old kid who wants to build his own scratch build model ship or boat(i have no experience) and my only available material is sintra board or styrene   
    Welcome to MSW, Krisan.    You've had some good advice, but I'll carry it a step further.   Start with a simple model with no masts such as a life boat.  Then go to one a bit more complex and as you progress, add a mast.  Then one with two.  Each step will increase in complexity. 
     
    You didn't tell us where you are located so help with resources might be an issue.  The best resource is MSW and it's many Question and Answer forums as well as build logs.  Depending on where you are located, perhaps there might a member or two nearby that could help mentor you.
     
    One final suggestion... when you find a model to build, open a build log as it's the best way to get help and meet other builders.
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    Jaager got a reaction from Dave_E in Want information on a model kit.   
    I do not believe that the situation where  AAMM has a monograph of this vessel is a coincidence.
    My guess is that the AAMM plans were used to develop the kit and that royalties were paid.
    Now almost all wooden sail AAMM monographs are drawn with a eye toward laminated carved hull.
    They have a Body plan, so POB is easy enough to derive from it.
    Once you get beyond hull fabrication, the monograph contains more than enough detail and is probably better than the plans that come with the kit.  The scale is 1:75  The data is on a large and crowded sheet.  It is all "What".  There is no "How".   Besides this site, there are more than a few books, and three journals available as CDs here that more than cover the "How".
     
    We have wooden houses and many other wooden objects that are at least hundreds of years old.  There are trees that are hundreds of years old.  Wood is a polymer, but unlike man-made synthetic polymers, it does not get all that brittle with age. Too much moisture or direct UV over time will degrade it, but if the wood in an old kit is brittle or fragile, then this probably is because the species of wood and plywood quality supplied was crap to begin with.
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    Jaager got a reaction from thibaultron in Want information on a model kit.   
    I do not believe that the situation where  AAMM has a monograph of this vessel is a coincidence.
    My guess is that the AAMM plans were used to develop the kit and that royalties were paid.
    Now almost all wooden sail AAMM monographs are drawn with a eye toward laminated carved hull.
    They have a Body plan, so POB is easy enough to derive from it.
    Once you get beyond hull fabrication, the monograph contains more than enough detail and is probably better than the plans that come with the kit.  The scale is 1:75  The data is on a large and crowded sheet.  It is all "What".  There is no "How".   Besides this site, there are more than a few books, and three journals available as CDs here that more than cover the "How".
     
    We have wooden houses and many other wooden objects that are at least hundreds of years old.  There are trees that are hundreds of years old.  Wood is a polymer, but unlike man-made synthetic polymers, it does not get all that brittle with age. Too much moisture or direct UV over time will degrade it, but if the wood in an old kit is brittle or fragile, then this probably is because the species of wood and plywood quality supplied was crap to begin with.
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    Jaager got a reaction from Dave_E in Storage and transportation   
    In respect to your living situation, I will suggest consideration of a vanishingly small segment in all this - at least when it comes to wood and sail:  1:192 scale.  For pre-1860 wooden hulls - the models are small and many can be kept in a small area.   For steel, it is probably too large.  
    Cases are vital.
    The masts can be stubs.
    It would be 100% scratch.
    The skills and techniques are much most artist based than the technical woodworking skills that most of us perform.
    It is more simulation than replication.
    It is perhaps the one area in all this where, if done with real skill and talent, an actual profit can be had.
     
    For larger scales, half hulls mounted on a board - no spars - 100% scratch build.
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    Jaager got a reaction from mtaylor in Byrnes saw fence advice sought   
    As you do this, think about the physics of the operation.
     
    The plane of the cutting teeth and the plane of the fence must be parallel up thru the zone of active cutting.
    The part of the blade behind that is an encumbrance.  It is a source of friction,  A blade that is hollow ground or whose teeth have set can greatly reduce the friction.
    Hollow ground is more expensive, There is an outer ring in the zone with the teeth that is not ground. We are usually cutting stock that is so thin that some or all of it is still at the flat part.  We loose the advantage that the hollow provides.
    Blades with significant set also have significant lose to kerf.
    If the fence has off set THAT IS LIMITED to the part that is behind the crown of the blade will reduce the friction.  But, to do this, the fence must have two planes and must have special engineering. 
     
    If the product being cut comes out between the fence and the blade, once the settings are precise and accurate,  you can rock and roll forever.  There is just kick back and pushing it all behind the blade to worry about.
    If the thin rip guide is used, there is no kick back and the push is easy.  The fence must be moved after every cut, so no rock and roll. But a micrometer is not needed to reposition the fence. The surface of the stock that rides against the fence does not change with every cut.
     
     
    Another factor but not a part of this problem is that the ideal is that the blade be one with three teeth in the thickness of the stock being cut.
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    Jaager got a reaction from Bob Cleek in Byrnes saw fence advice sought   
    As you do this, think about the physics of the operation.
     
    The plane of the cutting teeth and the plane of the fence must be parallel up thru the zone of active cutting.
    The part of the blade behind that is an encumbrance.  It is a source of friction,  A blade that is hollow ground or whose teeth have set can greatly reduce the friction.
    Hollow ground is more expensive, There is an outer ring in the zone with the teeth that is not ground. We are usually cutting stock that is so thin that some or all of it is still at the flat part.  We loose the advantage that the hollow provides.
    Blades with significant set also have significant lose to kerf.
    If the fence has off set THAT IS LIMITED to the part that is behind the crown of the blade will reduce the friction.  But, to do this, the fence must have two planes and must have special engineering. 
     
    If the product being cut comes out between the fence and the blade, once the settings are precise and accurate,  you can rock and roll forever.  There is just kick back and pushing it all behind the blade to worry about.
    If the thin rip guide is used, there is no kick back and the push is easy.  The fence must be moved after every cut, so no rock and roll. But a micrometer is not needed to reposition the fence. The surface of the stock that rides against the fence does not change with every cut.
     
     
    Another factor but not a part of this problem is that the ideal is that the blade be one with three teeth in the thickness of the stock being cut.
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    Jaager reacted to Roger Pellett in Byrnes saw fence advice sought   
    The best way to diagnose the saw is with a dial indicator.  These cost anywhere from around $20 to a Sterrett for about $175.  Like most tools, you get what you pay for, but an inexpensive one will probably be good enough for the purpose; just don’t expect long life.
     
    You can use one of the miter gage slots as a datum.  I made an aluminum bracket that fastens to my miter gage to hold the dial indicator.   Sliding the indicator attached to the miter gage along the slot allows you to check alignment of the rip fence and the blade.
     
    Elsewhere in this forum category Jim Byrnes provides an alignment procedure for the fence.  In the case of my saw it was necessary to align the rear fence hold down as well as the one at the front of the saw as tightening the rear one was pulling the fence out of alignment. 
     
    Ripping with the wood trapped between the fence and blade is especially difficult with blades without “set” used in the Byrnes Saw.  The current best tool deal is the NRG’s thin rip guide that allows the piece being ripped to be “outside” of the blade.
     
    Roger
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    Jaager got a reaction from Canute in Old tapering jig?   
    I forget the old joke, but the punch line:  "It seemed like a good idea at the time."  sort of fits this tool.
    I suspect that the primary utility of this thing is to allow the seller to get a return on the money that he spent on his laser cutter.
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    Jaager got a reaction from mtaylor in Old tapering jig?   
    I forget the old joke, but the punch line:  "It seemed like a good idea at the time."  sort of fits this tool.
    I suspect that the primary utility of this thing is to allow the seller to get a return on the money that he spent on his laser cutter.
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    Jaager got a reaction from Canute in Storage and transportation   
    In respect to your living situation, I will suggest consideration of a vanishingly small segment in all this - at least when it comes to wood and sail:  1:192 scale.  For pre-1860 wooden hulls - the models are small and many can be kept in a small area.   For steel, it is probably too large.  
    Cases are vital.
    The masts can be stubs.
    It would be 100% scratch.
    The skills and techniques are much most artist based than the technical woodworking skills that most of us perform.
    It is more simulation than replication.
    It is perhaps the one area in all this where, if done with real skill and talent, an actual profit can be had.
     
    For larger scales, half hulls mounted on a board - no spars - 100% scratch build.
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    Jaager got a reaction from thibaultron in Storage and transportation   
    In respect to your living situation, I will suggest consideration of a vanishingly small segment in all this - at least when it comes to wood and sail:  1:192 scale.  For pre-1860 wooden hulls - the models are small and many can be kept in a small area.   For steel, it is probably too large.  
    Cases are vital.
    The masts can be stubs.
    It would be 100% scratch.
    The skills and techniques are much most artist based than the technical woodworking skills that most of us perform.
    It is more simulation than replication.
    It is perhaps the one area in all this where, if done with real skill and talent, an actual profit can be had.
     
    For larger scales, half hulls mounted on a board - no spars - 100% scratch build.
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    Jaager got a reaction from Ryland Craze in 2nd Layer of Planking Glueing. Thinned or Standard wood Glue?   
    OK.  Expressing my philosophy on wood to wood PVA bonding:
    I use Titebond II.  If it is getting thick, it is time to get a fresh supply.
    At this time and for a while now, I make a puddle on a piece of Cut-Rite wax paper.
    I use miniature foam stick applicator.  Round toothpicks and whatever size foam piece will do the coverage I need.
    The foam is the squishy packing foam - not the peanut type,  Duco works well to weld the handle to the foam.
    I do a just wet coat on both meeting surfaces.  Any squeeze-out means you left too much.
    If I want a strong bond, and for some strange reason - and in a very rare situation - I felt the need to dilute PVA - 95% concentration and never less than 90% is as low as I would go.
     
    I do use 50:50 dilution of pH 7 Lineco to set linen yarn twisted to rope while it is hanging lead sinkers to set.  It reduces the fuzz and unraveling.
     
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    Jaager got a reaction from Canute in Dremel rotary tool?   
    For a kit, a rotary tool is probably mostly a tool looking for a job.
    A pin vise can probably cut any needed holes.
    For scratch POF, and especially if the now out of favor trunnels for hull planking is your want, a rotary tool is a necessity. 
    But more is the pity for those just starting - the best for this - the smaller size cordless models - are no longer for sale- i.e 8050 or MiniMite.
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    Jaager got a reaction from thibaultron in 2nd Layer of Planking Glueing. Thinned or Standard wood Glue?   
    OK.  Expressing my philosophy on wood to wood PVA bonding:
    I use Titebond II.  If it is getting thick, it is time to get a fresh supply.
    At this time and for a while now, I make a puddle on a piece of Cut-Rite wax paper.
    I use miniature foam stick applicator.  Round toothpicks and whatever size foam piece will do the coverage I need.
    The foam is the squishy packing foam - not the peanut type,  Duco works well to weld the handle to the foam.
    I do a just wet coat on both meeting surfaces.  Any squeeze-out means you left too much.
    If I want a strong bond, and for some strange reason - and in a very rare situation - I felt the need to dilute PVA - 95% concentration and never less than 90% is as low as I would go.
     
    I do use 50:50 dilution of pH 7 Lineco to set linen yarn twisted to rope while it is hanging lead sinkers to set.  It reduces the fuzz and unraveling.
     
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    Jaager got a reaction from bruce d in 2nd Layer of Planking Glueing. Thinned or Standard wood Glue?   
    OK.  Expressing my philosophy on wood to wood PVA bonding:
    I use Titebond II.  If it is getting thick, it is time to get a fresh supply.
    At this time and for a while now, I make a puddle on a piece of Cut-Rite wax paper.
    I use miniature foam stick applicator.  Round toothpicks and whatever size foam piece will do the coverage I need.
    The foam is the squishy packing foam - not the peanut type,  Duco works well to weld the handle to the foam.
    I do a just wet coat on both meeting surfaces.  Any squeeze-out means you left too much.
    If I want a strong bond, and for some strange reason - and in a very rare situation - I felt the need to dilute PVA - 95% concentration and never less than 90% is as low as I would go.
     
    I do use 50:50 dilution of pH 7 Lineco to set linen yarn twisted to rope while it is hanging lead sinkers to set.  It reduces the fuzz and unraveling.
     
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